POSTGAME: Rd 11 vs North Melbourne

[Stevienic23 1,055]

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We got out 8 points and from 2 crap sides and leave

well played boys

Move on

Exactly right. That was like facing a bowling machine at 70mph dishing up half volleys...you're bound to look good. Two '8 point' games coming up with teams around us. We'll be judged on those games not these soft kills. That said, some good form coming in is always welcomed.

[640MD 3,002]

Enjoy the win.   We don’t always win the ones we should, so enjoy the win.   Go Dees  bring on the pies !!

[Wiseblood 24,636]

4 minutes ago, Buzzy said:

yeah - backwards

For a bloke who lists his interests as watching the Dees win, and then watching it again at home... you sure don't seem to enjoy us winning all that much.

[Redleg 38,085]

2 minutes ago, Jaded said:

The one thing I will say is that we looked much better off this 4 day break than we did against Port

So whatever we did was good. Although quality of opposition helped 

Not to mention they had at best 1 fit player on the bench in the last.

[MurDoc516 1,351]

Just now, AllMyTeamsAreWank said:

I know Viney has been one of our best this year, but Brayshaw offers so much more in the middle. He is really damaging with his disposal where Viney just seems to gain territory without actually generating any scoring opportunities. 

What to do with Viney?

I see a solution, drop Harmes and keep one of Spargo, Sparrow, Hannan or Rivers consistently in the side and rotate Brayshaw and Viney through the middle with Trac and Oliver. Harmes has been incredibly poor and ill disciplined for basicalyl the entire season. Viney has been brilliant, shouldn't be a question over his spot.

[leave it to deever 16,211]

1 minute ago, In Harmes Way said:

It's a strange feeling, being comfortable that we're not going to fold in the last quarter.

I could get used to it.

So could my nerves and Im saving a fortune in Bourban come to think of it.

[Binmans PA 26,513]

We look so much better without Viney and Gawn in the middle. People will disagree, but it's so much harder to stop three mids, than just curve one dominant ruckman. 

Gawn's too good to leave out, so if he's fit, he should come back. But I reckon we need to do a lot more of what North did tonight and that is mix up our rucking. 

If Viney is going to play again, he needs to play pressure forward.

Oliver, Gus and Petracca were brilliant as a combo and were able to defend and attack in equal measure. Oliver is an out and out star, and that ability to accelerate out of the contest is absolutely elite. Actually really liking the combo of Oliver, Gus, Petracca and Jackson. Super mobile, all have a great understanding between each other and are able to win the ball in tight and get it out on the outside. Love that we started targeting Petracca 1 out a bit, and Trac's body use is starting to really show. He's got a Martin-like ceiling. Keep going, mate.

Goodwin naming Melksham as captain is pretty rich and shows a clear bias IMV. Melksham in 2018 was super important for our midfield-forward connection, but we now function without him touching it equally well. Tonight he didn't really get near it enough, nor did he bring enough forward pressure IMO. So he'll predictably stay in, but he needs to show a lot more intensity and hardness across half forward. 

Really liked Rivers' game. Thought Sparrow brought very little and looked lost. Jackson continues to excite. His ability to compete in the air and excel when the ball hits the ground is really promising. Spargo showed why I think he'll make it. He gets involved and is tidy and efficient with his disposal, usually connecting really well with the mids and the deeper forwards. 

Weideman should have had a night out. He must improve his kicking. He'll know that. He wasn't alone though, but he is the focal point and if he continually misses, he's not converting our hard work up the ground. I still want him to be consistently stronger in the contest, but he's starting to bring the ball to the ground most times, which is a big tick. I just want to see him clunk those big contested marks that he gets to, but grasses, and then convert those easy chances.

Jones struggled, but there will still be those that champion his inclusion and disposal, and hardness and whatever else they allege he brings, but we can't carry him.

We need to play proper wingers against Collingwood or they'll cut us up on the outside, so I hope we go with Tomlinson and Langdon on the wings. Langdon's run was again important all night. He's always there on the outside when one of our mids is in trouble. It's becoming second nature that the likes of Oliver looks for him too.

Lever's game was excellent. One mistake early on gifted North a goal, otherwise he was always spot on, even when May was caught out of position a few times, Lever's cover was great. I agree with some. That was probably his most dominant game for the club.

We'll need to be a lot better if we're going to beat Collingwood or anyone of note really, but a win's a win and it was a good percentage boost. 

[In Harmes Way 7,613]

Petracca holding his feet and spinning out of trouble is a thing of beauty. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

19 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Throw in the comedic timing of Andrew Gaze and it's like sitting through a major surgery without so much as an aspirin to kill the pain.

Gaze is a great basketballer and a "flipping" "i diot" whose TV & radio ability is as bad as his basketball was good

What the TV execs see in him is beyond me

Edited August 9, 2020 by Mazer Rackham

[Jaded No More 59,164]

6 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

Just remember those important 3 little words Jaded and you will have a  good marriage.

" You're right darling " 

I’ll make sure my husband is aware of this ?

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

Not to mention they had at best 1 fit player on the bench in the last.

Yep. To be honest it’s hard to get excited about the win. Jackson makes me excited tho. Will be a player. 
Pickett has to learn his role. Flies for too many marks. 

[Call Me What You Will 714]

A bit of a shout out to D. Burgess and the fitness team. Not a bad 4 day program with 2 smashing last quarters.

Edited August 9, 2020 by Call Me What You Will

[Buzzy 939]

7 minutes ago, AllMyTeamsAreWank said:

I know Viney has been one of our best this year, but Brayshaw offers so much more in the middle. He is really damaging with his disposal where Viney just seems to gain territory without actually generating any scoring opportunities. 

What to do with Viney?

Sorry, but Viney has done it well against the good teams.  He goes back in.

We played a terrible listless team tonight, it needs to be factored in.

[dazzledavey36 49,394]

Another win and another MIA from @olisik..?

Fraud or a troll? Take your pick.

[Richy B 20]

North had no bench for most of the last quarter, however very pleasing to see the boys attack the last quarter full of running. Darren Burgess is such a vital cog in this and hopefully maintaining the list through for the remainder of the home and away. 

[MurDoc516 1,351]

2 minutes ago, A F said:

We look so much better without Viney and Gawn in the middle. People will disagree, but it's so much harder to stop three mids, than just curve one dominant ruckman. 

Gawn's too good to leave out, so if he's fit, he should come back. But I reckon we need to do a lot more of what North did tonight and that is mix up our rucking. 

If Viney is going to play again, he needs to play pressure forward.

We losts the clearences and got decimated in the hitouts... we are getting way too excited here over beating a team that nearly turned it over more than Adelaide did.

I really don't see how Gawn or Viney not staying in the midfield makes us better. I think we just need to be smarter with the overall balance in the team. Do we need Vanders, Harmes(clearly way out of form) and Jones in the side? 3 guys who wants to be in the thick off it when Viney is better than all 3 of them and we could do with some more outside run and better ball users being brought in. Now if that comes from within or from trade/draft that's another story.

[Satyriconhome 10,010]

Spargo was good wasn't he @WERRIDEE @picket fence

[Binmans PA 26,513]

43 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Mick Malthouse said today that we have another 'wasted season' on our hands.

Stick that where the sun don't shine, Mick.  

Took us a quarter to settle, and to kick straight, but we smashed them off the park.  Disposal count etc doesn't interest me, as we controlled the game easily tonight.  We moved it better, we worked harder and we made it count.

The inclusions all had a positive impact tonight, starting with Spargo.  Pickett was great, Tom did his job and Rivers showed some good signs down back.

On that, our back line was sublime once again.  Larkey kicked a few but no one else really looked like getting near it.

Our season is well and truly alive at 5-5 and a healthy percentage to boot.

Bring on the filth on Saturday for the real test!

This call is just as early as Malthouse's. We're still not in the 8 and we're 5-5. Let's see how the rest plays out.

[chook fowler 18,392]

8 minutes ago, Jaded said:

The one thing I will say is that we looked much better off this 4 day break than we did against Port

So whatever we did was good. Although quality of opposition helped 

Burgess has been so good for us - we are obviously able to run out games

[Gorgoroth 12,365]

 Brayshaw dominates (again) when played as a mid. They cannot play him elsewhere. 
 

In another group I said Spargo is like having an empty tin can out there since his first year. Back to the chasing and hard running.

Well done to the tin can, there’s some fuel in there. 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Another win and another MIA from @olisik..?

Fraud or a troll? Take your pick.

I love hopping on here after a win.  Lots of good vibes around to make a victory feel a little sweeter.

I can't imagine what it is like for those who only pop in after a loss.  I'm glad I'm not them.

[Engorged Onion 9,518]

11 minutes ago, Tom Dyson said:

Despite copping it from the demonlanders (myself included), T'mac and spargo both keep there spots for next week i reckon. 

They were both really good tonight, hats off to them, t'mac tackled hard presented well and kicked a goal to top it off. Spargo was very clean with his disposal and provided great pressure. 

Petracca and Oliver superb and Angus is really starting to get back to it. 

Next week will be a serious test. Up the mighty demons!!!

Perhaps you could rename yourself Sparlie Chargo in honour of the wee man?

Speaking of Dom - shame he wasn't playing tonight

Edited August 9, 2020 by Engorged Onion

[Satyriconhome 10,010]

Spargo was good wasn't he @WERRIDEE @picket fence

[DSP 1,488]

Another strong finish by the boys. % could be the make or break come finals time considering the snake and ladders that is 2020.

I hope Weeds continues the upward curve, along with Tracca.

There needs to be some sort of investigation about the umpiring though. Bloody horrible.

[AllMyTeamsAreWank 563]

Is it just me or does Oliver look quicker recently?

[monoccular 16,415]

33 minutes ago, nosoupforme said:

BRAYSHAW IS HE FINISHED?         HAVE A RETHINK ON ALL OF THESE PLAYERS.

Spargo he is no good.

TMAC Shouldn't be playing?

Clarry CAN'T KICK! 

Lever is overrated? 

Have a good rethink about knocking all of the above. There is plenty of upside and just starting to find their mojo.

Any comments from Dive Bomber Lloyd?

30 minutes ago, Yze_13 said:

Cracking performance. Only the most churlish supporter could find anything negative about that (ok, perhaps the poor conversion).

Not sure whether we had a player who didn’t win their position. Thought Spargo was fantastic - especially leaving his man and bursting through the line in the third quarter for the long handball. Challenge for him is to back it up. Luke Jackson could legitimately be the best player in the competition in 5 years. 
 

I’ve maintained all along that our form line is not that bad - 5 losses (2 by less than a goal) all against top 6 sides. Pretty good really. We’re beating the sides we’re supposed to.Having said that, it was a performance against a dispirited and depleted outfit. Let’s see that level maintained against the Pies and I’ll be happy

Which is a welcome change.  Now to beat some top sides.