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Don Scott Claims Hawks Cheated Salary Cap

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1 minute ago, Demonland said:

How can they not be investigated? Scott provides details whereas Brock McLean’s evidence was based on Blind Freddy. 

I wonder why Scott has cpme out with this?

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    2 minutes ago, deebug said:

    I wonder why Scott has cpme out with this?

    He's an odd man...and often the odd man out.

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    I don't think that the Hawks would have been the only ones doing that.  Having said that, Scott has always been a nasty piece of work and whilst I don't doubt the veracity of his comments, he has always had an agenda on the go.

    Edited by ProperDee

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    1 minute ago, rjay said:

    He's an odd man...and often the odd man out.

    He sure is, can't wait to see this unfold?

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    32 years ago. Investigating and punishing now would be pointless.

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    20 minutes ago, praha said:

    32 years ago. Investigating and punishing now would be pointless.

    Strip there flags, if they cheated they cheated. 

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    58 minutes ago, praha said:

    32 years ago. Investigating and punishing now would be pointless.

    No it wouldn't.  If there is hard evidence, it puts the integrity of the AFL in serious question if they sit on their hands and do nothing.  All that sucess that Hawthorn had through that era at the expense of everyone else and they are still reaping the benefits of the inflated membership base it allowed them to build.

    Taking away premierships retrospectively would be hollow.  A fitting punishment would be for them to loose a bunch of first round draft picks and exclude them from free agency for the next 3 or 4 years to thwart the rebuild they need to have and make them mediocre for the next decade like other teams have had to endure.

    Edited by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

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    1. Were there even salary caps in place then?

    2. Would Don Scott even know what was going on, or just think that he knows?

    3. How reliable would any evidence be now?

    4. (If salary caps were in place), how many other clubs were breaching the cap at the same time?

    I safely predict this will go nowhere. Which is precisely the right direction.

     

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    8 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    1. Were there even salary caps in place then?

    2. Would Don Scott even know what was going on, or just think that he knows?

    3. How reliable would any evidence be now?

    4. (If salary caps were in place), how many other clubs were breaching the cap at the same time?

    I safely predict this will go nowhere. Which is precisely the right direction.

     

    Off the top of my head

    1) 1987

    2) It's an open AFL secret.

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    9 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    1. Were there even salary caps in place then?

    2. Would Don Scott even know what was going on, or just think that he knows?

    3. How reliable would any evidence be now?

    4. (If salary caps were in place), how many other clubs were breaching the cap at the same time?

    I safely predict this will go nowhere. Which is precisely the right direction.

     

    It will go nowhere because it is Hawthorn and the AFL wouldn't want to investigate one of their biggest clubs.

    Happy to pick on the minnows but too soft to go after the whales.

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    Not at all surprised but the story will probably go away because the AFL will make it go away.

    And they won't have to lift a finger to make it go away either. 

    With the backing of the media & general footy public. 

    One big happy family and it gets kept that way.

    Look at the systemic cheating that went on at Essendon ... 80% of the footy public didn't want to know about it and simultaeously clammed up and went into denial.  And it was the much despised Essendon.

    And that included 80% of the prominent posters right here on this site.  No comment at all from any of them.  The silence was deafening

    Footy rules and footy must win out.

    The same people often complain bitterly when it suits but they protect footy like it's their children.

    There is no absolute honesty and never will be.

    Tony Liberatore was told to shut up or else over the widespread tanking that went on at Carlton. So he shut up.

    Don Scott will be portrayed as an eccentric old fool.  It's already hapoening on this very thread.

    But what he is saying could well be true and if so, a proper investigation should follow. 

    But what are the chances?

     

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    7 minutes ago, Macca said:

    Not at all surprised but the story will probably go away because the AFL will make it go away.

    And they won't have to lift a finger to make it go away either. 

    With the backing of the media & general footy public. 

    One big happy family and it gets kept that way.

    Look at the systemic cheating that went on at Essendon ... 80& of the footy public didn't want to know about it and simultaeously clammed up and went into denial.  And it was the much despised Essendon.

    And that included 80% of the prominent posters right here on this site.  No comment at all from any of them.  The silence was deafening

    Footy rules and footy must win out.

    The same people ofren complain bitterly when it suits but they protect footy like it's their children.

    There is no absolute honesty and never will be.

    Tony Liberatore was told to shut up or else over the widespread tanking that went on at Carlton. So he shut up.

    Don Scott will be portrayed as an eccentric old fool.  It's already hapoening on this very thread.

    But what he is saying could well be true and if so, a proper investigation should follow. 

    But what are the chances?

     

    I think it's well accepted that Scott is quite eccentric. (His age is irrelevant, although the age of the incident is not.)

     

     

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    Melbourne Storm says hello.....

    stripped of their 2007 & 2009 Premierships and 2006, 2007 and 2008 minor premierships for salary cap breaches and a record fine.

    ....if there is a paper trail, then there is a paper trail......bank accounts dont lie.

    ...unlikely we would be awarded a Flag, but they could certainly lose theirs.

    Edited by Wadda We Sing

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    Carlton and Hawthorn in the 80's were notorious for the brown paper bag.  I don't think anything Don Scott has to say is a revelation for those of us following the game through that period.  The reality is everyone (and that includes Melbourne) has transgressed the salary cup at some point.  It cost us draft picks in the late 90's.  Scott's point is more about why Hawthorn needed saving after so many years as a top club yet still with a low membership base. They did spend a lot of many of players and it sent the club broke.  They are not the only club that has happened to.

    Interestingly enough, throughout the mid to late 80's Don was actually on the Demon coaching panel.  He was the ruck coach of O'Dwyer and Stynes and as I recall was one of the very few media people Northey would let in the rooms from around 87-90. He had little if anything to do with the Hawks until he got back involved around the time of the merger.  As eccentric as he may be, he's as honest as the day is long.

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    5 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    I think it's well accepted that Scott is quite eccentric. (His age is irrelevant, although the age of the incident is not.)

    So what if he is a bit accentric.  Doesn't make him wrong.  The accusation of eccentricity could be thrown about everywhere.  And that includes you and I alongside numerous others on this very site 

    We post and read away here for 30+ hours every week ... isn't that a bit strange?  Or nornal?

    Who are we to cast aspersions.  The truth is that many of us are 'unconventional'

    Gut feel LDcV ..  is Scott telling the truth? 

    I lean towards yes but what do you think? Do you believe him or more importantly,  do you want to believe him? 

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    5 hours ago, Macca said:

    So what if he is a bit accentric.  Doesn't make him wrong.  The accusation of eccentricity could be thrown about everywhere.  And that includes you and I alongside numerous others on this very site 

    We post and read away here for 30+ hours every week ... isn't that a bit strange?  Or nornal?

    Who are we to cast aspersions.  The truth is that many of us are 'unconventional'

    Gut feel LDcV ..  is Scott telling the truth? 

    I lean towards yes but what do you think? Do you believe him or more importantly,  do you want to believe him? 

    I believe he genuinely believes it to be true.

    On balance, I also expect it is true (perhaps not in the specifics but in its essence), but I also believe every other club was probably equally guilty around the same time. As mentioned above, 1987 was apparently the first year of salary caps. Those of us old enough to remember can recall the lengths many clubs went to to avoid proper scrutiny in the first few years of caps.

    Also, while I think he's eccentric, I wasn't trying to suggest that the eccentricity made his views either incorrect or irrelevant for that reason alone.

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