2020 NATIONAL DRAFT ORDER AND SELECTIONS

[Demonland 73,140]

We’re going a bit early on this because of the interest surrounding Melbourne’s trade of its 2020 future # 1 draft pick last year. Here’s the table created by bigfooty poster Lore based on the current ladder:-

Adelaide 1 6 20 29 41 53 67
Brisbane Lions 18 19 40 61    
Carlton 8 27 45    
Collingwood 17 34 39 68    
Essendon 9 49 64 66 69    
Fremantle 4 26    
Geelong 11 12 15 33    
Gold Coast Suns 13 31 36 72    
GWS Giants 25 43 71
Hawthorn 5 21 42 46 60 65    
Melbourne 24 44 59 63
North Melbourne 2 7 28 57 62    
Port Adelaide 23 35 37 50 55    
Richmond 16 32 52 70    
St Kilda 14 58 73    
Sydney    3 22 54 56    
West Coast Eagles 30 48 51    
Western Bulldogs 10 38 47

[buck_nekkid 6,046]

Freo may move back based on being in points debt from last year. They may go from 4 to 6, for example.  Won’t worry us unless we trade back in (which I doubt).

Hard to know how it plays out if lists are savaged, do we still have to take 3?

[Whispering_Jack 30,640]

Order to end of Round 11 -

Adelaide 1 12 20 27 42 49 62
Brisbane Lions 18 19 39 66
Carlton 6 25 43
Collingwood 13 32 40 69
Essendon 10 44 65 70 71
Fremantle 5 28
Geelong 11 16 17 35
Gold Coast Suns 7 26 36 72
GWS Giants 30 48 67
Hawthorn 4 22 41 47 59 63
Melbourne 23 46 60 61
North Melbourne 3 9 29 58 64
Port Adelaide 24 31 37 51 55
Richmond 14 33 50 68
St Kilda 15 57 73    
Sydney 2 21 54 56    
West Coast Eagles 34 52 53
Western Bulldogs 8 38 45

[Fat Tony 5,262]

Which club's second round pick do we own?

[BAMF 4,385]

11 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Which club's second round pick do we own?

Hawks. Part of Frost trade.

Third round is our own I think.

Fourth round is tied to Freo.

I might have that all wrong.

[Grimes Times 1,278]

That Haw 2nd round pick is looking better and better each week.

Frost for pick 21 every day of the week. Great job JM

[Nelo 813]

5 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

That Haw 2nd round pick is looking better and better each week.

Frost for pick 21 every day of the week. Great job JM

Wow that would be a great outcome. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,510]

12 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

That Haw 2nd round pick is looking better and better each week.

Frost for pick 21 every day of the week. Great job JM

 

We traded him in for pick 23, so we've come out alright!

 

 

[leucopogon 1,519]

Not sure if he'll still be there for our first pick, but hope Jason Taylor and the team are considering young Logan McDonald from the Perth Demons. He's been turning heads over here in the west. Looks a great prospect. I watched him on Saturday against the Falcons and he didn't have the best game but still kicked two and showed some glimpses of brilliance. His aerial ability is fantastic, judges his leap and plucks the ball from on high.

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2020/07/26/wafl-player-focus-logan-mcdonald-perth/

[ChaserJ 5,157]

12 minutes ago, leucopogon said:

Not sure if he'll still be there for our first pick, but hope Jason Taylor and the team are considering young Logan McDonald from the Perth Demons. He's been turning heads over here in the west. Looks a great prospect. I watched him on Saturday against the Falcons and he didn't have the best game but still kicked two and showed some glimpses of brilliance. His aerial ability is fantastic, judges his leap and plucks the ball from on high.

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2020/07/26/wafl-player-focus-logan-mcdonald-perth/

He’s probably in top 5 calculations now, McDonald’s had a terrific season for Perth so far.

[drdrake 3,187]

Hopefully a club like North Melbourne with early picks make a few clubs use up their early picks by bidding on F/S and Academy players.  This is where the NGA are so unfair, the Bulldogs have a kid that is rumoured to be top pick, the bulldogs have pick 8, this enabled them to go hard on a trade with pick 8, trade pick 8 for a future first round pick, there is not a chance that the Bulldogs will take pick 8 in this years draft, as long as they can have enough points to cover the pick in late second rounders and third round picks.

I'm not all over the F/S and Academy players but all we here is the top end of this draft is full of them.

On the flip side it might give us a chance if we want to get a pick in the top 10, lets say Future first round pick and pick 23 for Bulldogs pick 8 and future second round pick

 

[Demon Disciple 12,272]

I think the academy and NGA systems are an absolute crock, and has gone some way to stuffing up the drafts supposed equity.

I also think that the F/S discount should not apply either. Having first dibs should be the only advantage a team gets when drafting.

Northern clubs may have a sook, but let's remember they chose to establish themselves as AFL clubs in their respective locations, knowing full well both the pros and cons of doing so. If they don't like it, they shouldn't have formed themselves in such a vicinity.

 

 

 

[roy11 3,893]

2 hours ago, leucopogon said:

Not sure if he'll still be there for our first pick, but hope Jason Taylor and the team are considering young Logan McDonald from the Perth Demons. He's been turning heads over here in the west. Looks a great prospect. I watched him on Saturday against the Falcons and he didn't have the best game but still kicked two and showed some glimpses of brilliance. His aerial ability is fantastic, judges his leap and plucks the ball from on high.

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2020/07/26/wafl-player-focus-logan-mcdonald-perth/

don't think he'll slide too far down given this

 

 

 

[Dr.D 1,771]

i dont understandthe table. If we have the hawks 2nd round pick, shouldn't that be in our column? so does anyone have confirmation that. we have the hawks 2nd round pick?

[Demonland 73,140]

Order to end of Round 12 -

Adelaide 1 10 20 28 42 49 61
Brisbane Lions 18 19 41 65
Carlton 7 26 44
Collingwood 13 32 39 69
Essendon 8 43 63 70 71
Fremantle 5 30
Geelong 11 16 17 35
Gold Coast Suns 6 25 36 72
GWS Giants 29 47 67
Hawthorn 3 21 40 45 58 64
Melbourne 22 48 60 62 
North Melbourne 2 12 27 57 66
Port Adelaide 24 31 37 51 55
Richmond 14 33 50 68
St Kilda 15 59 73    
Sydney 4 23 54 56    
West Coast Eagles 34 52 53
Western Bulldogs 9 38 46

[Demonland 73,140]

Order to end of Round 14 —

Adelaide 1 10 20 28 42 50 61 
Brisbane Lions 17 19 40 65
Carlton 7 26 44
Collingwood 14 34 39 67
Essendon 8 43 63 69 72
Fremantle 5 30
Geelong 11 15 18 36
Gold Coast Suns 6 25 35 71
GWS Giants 29 47 68
Hawthorn 4 21 41 45 59 64
Melbourne 23 48 60 62
North Melbourne 2 12 27 57 66
Port Adelaide 24 32 37 49 55
Richmond 16 31 52 70
St Kilda 13 58 73
Sydney 3 22 53 56
West Coast Eagles 33 51 54
Western Bulldogs 9 38 46

[spirit of norm smith 16,588]

Yes the Hawks are unlikely to go beyond 14-16th now. So we should get a pick around 23-25 depending on the priority zone and father son picks. 

[Moonshadow 17,677]

12 hours ago, Demonland said:

Order to end of Round 14 —

Adelaide 1 10 20 28 42 50 61 
Brisbane Lions 17 19 40 65
Carlton 7 26 44
Collingwood 14 34 39 67
Essendon 8 43 63 69 72
Fremantle 5 30
Geelong 11 15 18 36
Gold Coast Suns 6 25 35 71
GWS Giants 29 47 68
Hawthorn 4 21 41 45 59 64
Melbourne 23 48 60 62
North Melbourne 2 12 27 57 66
Port Adelaide 24 32 37 49 55
Richmond 16 31 52 70
St Kilda 13 58 73
Sydney 3 22 53 56
West Coast Eagles 33 51 54
Western Bulldogs 9 38 46

Don't the Sun's get middle 1st round  (11) and start 2nd round (19) PPs? Or have i got that wrong?

As a side note, I see the AFL are planning to phase out academy zone selections in 1st and 2nd rounds. Meaning that academy players are open slather during those rounds. Not this year though.

Draft shake up

Edit. I just saw GCS traded 2020 first round PP to WCE for 2019 pick 27 (Jeremy Sharp)

Edited August 30, 2020 by Moonshadow

[drdrake 3,187]

29 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Don't the Sun's get middle 1st round  (11) and start 2nd round (19) PPs? Or have i got that wrong?

As a side note, I see the AFL are planning to phase out academy zone selections in 1st and 2nd rounds. Meaning that academy players are open slather during those rounds. Not this year though.

Draft shake up

Edit. I just saw GCS traded 2020 first round PP to WCE for 2019 pick 27 (Jeremy Sharp)

NGA priority access changed, I wonder if this will also include the Northern state academies. 

[deebug 1,754]

Do we have any NGA kids from this year draft?

[spirit of norm smith 16,588]

On 8/31/2020 at 11:22 AM, deebug said:

Do we have any NGA kids from this year draft?

Deakyn Smith. But he’s a late draft pick option like Bedford. Hard to gauge him given no matches in 2020. 

[deebug 1,754]

32 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Deakyn Smith. But he’s a late draft pick option like Bedford. Hard to gauge him given no matches in 2020. 

Ok thank you.

 

[Whispering_Jack 30,640]

On 9/1/2020 at 11:42 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

Deakyn Smith. But he’s a late draft pick option like Bedford. Hard to gauge him given no matches in 2020. 

He wasn’t invited to the Draft Combine and therefore not likely to be drafted given that lists will be reduced in size next year.

[Demonland 73,140]

Order to end of Round 15 —

Adelaide 1 12 20 28 42 50 61
Brisbane Lions 18 19 41 66
Carlton 7 26 44
Collingwood 14 35 39 67
Essendon 8 43 63 69 70
Fremantle 5 29
Geelong 11 15 16 34
Gold Coast Suns 6 25 36 72
GWS Giants 30 48 68
Hawthorn 3 21 40 45 58 64
Melbourne 22 47 60 62
North Melbourne 2 10 27 57 65
Port Adelaide 24 32 37 49 55
Richmond 17 31 53 71
St Kilda 13 59 73
Sydney 4 23 54 56
West Coast Eagles 33 51 52
Western Bulldogs 9 38 46

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,233]

Being the lack of visibility of development this year surely its a great time to have concentrated picks in the 25-60 range where you may chance late developing kids who could not show their wares this year. Even some players don’t really show out as much until the champs when the quality rises around them or they are forced to play a different role than at club level. Think of how many bolters  there have been due to the championship or post champs that have shot in from 25-40 or further range to be top 10 or top 25.