ChaserJ 5,192 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Deeko2 said: Tough on the travel for us but harder for our opponents. Rd 9 vs Port Adelaide sees us not travelling coming off a 4 day break. Port get a 5 day break but travelling from Adelaide. I'd say this is about even. Rd 10 vs Adelaide see us travelling to Adelaide off a 6 day break. Adelaide are coming off a 4 day break travelling from Brisbane. Win for us. Rd 11 vs North sees us travelling to Tasmania off a 4 day break. North are coming off a 4 day break travelling from Brisbane. I'd say this is par noting the flight is fairly similar. Rd 12 vs Pies sees us travelling to Brisbane off a 6 day break. Pies are coming off a 4 day break travelling from Adelaide. Win for us. So two pars and a coupla birdies. We definitely can't whinge at this fixture imo. I wonder if we could arrange to head to Tassie direct from Adelaide? Might give us some sort of leg up on North as far as the travel goes. 2 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,716 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, Deeko2 said: It's crap in regards to travel and turn around times LH but have a read of my post above. The teams we play over the 4 rounds have either equally bad travel/turn around times or worse. Really, we have no excuses. Lets just bank the next 5 wins and look for some prime time when we're sitting 8 and 3 Thank you for that post. I saw it after I posted and it made me feel a lot better. As is very obvious, I have a deep hatred for Ess and a short fuse when it comes to the favours they get. 6 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 35 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: ? Look at Ess: Round 9 - Friday, Gabba Round 10 - Friday, Metricon Round 11 - Wednesday, Metricon Round 12 - Sunday, Gabba Nice spread of dates and don't leave Qld where they have been based for about a month (and travelled once in round 8 to SA). How on earth do they get special treatment like that!!!! This is where the postponed game will hurt us. Freo, WCE, Hawthorn and Carlton have a bye after round 10. GWS and Sydney get a bye in Round 11. Other teams will get byes between Rounds 13 - 16. We don't get a bye nor do Essendon but look at the advantage they have in well spaced games and no travel. I'm not usually someone to complain about the fixture but we have been dealt a poor hand especially if we end up playing in Alice and have a catch up game without a bye. With the amount of travel we have basing in Maroochydore may not be such a good idea for total travel time to/from airports etc. Lets hope there are flights from there directly to Adelaide and Hobart otherwise it will be quite painful, especially if we have to adopt FIFO travel. Can only hope the AFL even it up in rounds 13 - 16! Spot on. We got screwed again. North in Tassie. Duck off. Travel between 3 states and with short breaks. No bye obviously. Still have bombers game to pickup. Saints and Bombers got armchair rides. note - that leaves us makeup match v Dons plus with rounds 13 to 17 against Freo, Saints, Dogs, Swans, Giants. 1 1 Quote
Deeko2 865 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, ChaserJ said: I wonder if we could arrange to head to Tassie direct from Adelaide? Might give us some sort of leg up on North as far as the travel goes. Without knowing for sure I'd think this would be the case. I'd imagine they'd complete recovery that night and in the morning and then catch a flight directly down south and start preparing there. Feels like a waste of time, resources and money to fly back to Brisvegas and then back to Tasmania - but as I said.... I have no idea 2 Quote
Fat Tony 5,337 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 We have a reasonably healthy list and decent depth. This could be an advantage for us. The Port game will be the toughest to get up for. We should ask the AFL to shift our game vs Brisbane to Saturday night. Quote
Deeko2 865 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Thank you for that post. I saw it after I posted and it made me feel a lot better. As is very obvious, I have a deep hatred for Ess and a short fuse when it comes to the favours they get. No worries. I get the hatred of Essendon. Mine is genuinely unhealthy how mush I despise them as well. Genuine scumbags and I appreciated your rant about them 4 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fat Tony said: The Port game will be the toughest to get up for. We should ask the AFL to shift our game vs Brisbane to Saturday night. Agree but we have been screwed and are not the Suns Saints or Bummers!!! Quote
Megatron 886 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 I can’t wait. I can go see the dees play at the Adelaide Oval. The club will embrace the challenge thrown at them and I think it’ll be a good thing. 2 Quote
Garbo 1,567 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) This next 2 weeks (14 days) is a nightmare, from Sunday July 26 to this week to Sunday august 9 we play 4 games, which includes the top 2 teams Edited July 21, 2020 by Garbo Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Wtf is going on. Saints, gold coast and the bombers have an easy time of it at either Metricon or the Gabba. How do they think that is right ffs. 3 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 I don’t have any problems with the fixture. This is a tough competition in a very rough year for everybody and we’re a side that will, in the long run, benefit from doing it hard. We’ve been lucky so far with injuries so it gives us an edge on our opponents. Let’s be positive about the challenges facing us for the rest of the year. 7 Quote
Garbo 1,567 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Whispering_Jack said: I don’t have any problems with the fixture. This is a tough competition in a very rough year for everybody and we’re a side that will, in the long run, benefit from doing it hard. The adage what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger doesn’t apply in real life, make no mistake this is a disadvantage that has no upside. 1 Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said: As long as there are good enough gym facilities up there for us that could be a winner Pates. With the draw being turned on it's head anyway who's to say they couldn't both now be our home games. I'd be very happy for us to play two Alice Springs home games back to back. We're no longer giving up any home ground/crowd advantage and Alice is a place we'd be more familiar with than most so I would be strongly advocating it on our end. Very few teams have anything that they can call a home now, maybe we can take advantage of us actually having played there many times. 1 Quote
chookrat 4,268 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said: I don’t have any problems with the fixture. This is a tough competition in a very rough year for everybody and we’re a side that will, in the long run, benefit from doing it hard. We’ve been lucky so far with injuries so it gives us an edge on our opponents. Let’s be positive about the challenges facing us for the rest of the year. Agree WJ. I honestly believe we are in a good spot to challenge this year. We travel well, have a well balanced and fit list, and are building some good form. Quote
Pickett2Jackson 3,904 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Brisbane and Port in consecutive weeks is tough. I think we will handle Port actually. If we can roll the Lions we are in prime position. 1 Quote
CHF 2,825 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Whinging about the fixture is like whinging to the ump after he has given a free against you. I have never in all my years seen them change their mind. 1 Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CHF said: Whinging about the fixture is like whinging to the ump after he has given a free against you. I have never in all my years seen them change their mind. That's true but given the nature of the rolling fixture you can make requests for the next run to be kinder based off the way we have been pretty screwed over. Edited July 21, 2020 by Pates 1 Quote
titan_uranus 25,255 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Deeko2 said: Tough on the travel for us but harder for our opponents. Rd 9 vs Port Adelaide sees us not travelling coming off a 4 day break. Port get a 5 day break but travelling from Adelaide. I'd say this is about even. Rd 10 vs Adelaide see us travelling to Adelaide off a 6 day break. Adelaide are coming off a 4 day break travelling from Brisbane. Win for us. Rd 11 vs North sees us travelling to Tasmania off a 4 day break. North are coming off a 4 day break travelling from Brisbane. I'd say this is par noting the flight is fairly similar. Rd 12 vs Pies sees us travelling to Brisbane off a 6 day break. Pies are coming off a 4 day break travelling from Adelaide. Win for us. So two pars and a coupla birdies. We definitely can't whinge at this fixture imo. We can, and clearly we have, but this is a very fair counterargument. The breaks going into games are certainly important, particularly with the pressures of this season, but I can't help but feel that getting to base your club in a state/city for 2, 3 or even 4 weeks has particular advantages which will help the players acclimatise, get into some routine and normality, and feel comfortable. We're shuffling all over the place with no two matches at the same venue (Giants, Metricon, Gabba, Adelaide, Blundstone, Gabba). If our fitness is improved and we can rotate players as we go, that will minimise the shortness of breaks and some of the travel concerns, but I still can't help but be frustrated that we appear to be the only club with no period of stability coming up. 1 Quote
dworship 3,343 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, Garbo said: The adage what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger doesn’t apply in real life, make no mistake this is a disadvantage that has no upside. Always thought you had an apt moniker. Quote
Deeko2 865 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, titan_uranus said: We can, and clearly we have, but this is a very fair counterargument. The breaks going into games are certainly important, particularly with the pressures of this season, but I can't help but feel that getting to base your club in a state/city for 2, 3 or even 4 weeks has particular advantages which will help the players acclimatise, get into some routine and normality, and feel comfortable. We're shuffling all over the place with no two matches at the same venue (Giants, Metricon, Gabba, Adelaide, Blundstone, Gabba). If our fitness is improved and we can rotate players as we go, that will minimise the shortness of breaks and some of the travel concerns, but I still can't help but be frustrated that we appear to be the only club with no period of stability coming up. I get where you're coming from Titan and if we were to play say the last round against a settled team who haven't travelled I would completely agree. The fact we are playing all the games against teams completing just as much travel on the same break time or less gives us no excuses in my opinion. We should be confident coming in to every game and won't have a better chance in knocking off potential top 4 teams in Bris/Port/Pies. If anything, I'm taking the positive thought pattern that the more time in transit will see the player spending directly more time together, experiencing more places and challenges which will surely help with group bonding. I'd say the Pies are usually the AFLs lovechild with scheduling and there travel journey is Perth > Brisbane > Adelaide > Brisbane. I'm willing to take this on the chin with the view the next block of games we will be looked after more accordingly. If not - then I'll come a hollarin. Edited July 21, 2020 by Deeko2 1 Quote
Tom Dyson 1,645 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, DemonLad5 said: Tassie again ya joking We always get stitched up with 100km gusts as well, fair dinkum, and coming off a three/four day break. Arguably, north do play that ground better than any other team so its not an amazing result fixture wise for us. Would have loved to get them anywhere else but i guess the boys will just make it work for them. 1 Quote
titan_uranus 25,255 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 So this means our final six games will be against: Essendon, Fremantle, GWS, St Kilda, Sydney and the Dogs. The Dogs are the best of that bunch currently. We could cop GWS after they turn their form around over the next month. St Kilda always trouble us. But all six games are, at least on what we know right now, winnable (although a 2-4 run is on the cards, or worse, if we don't maintain our form from the last two weeks). Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Anyone willing to compare our fixture to every other team and convince me we didn't get screwed!!? I had a quick look over every team's run and ours seems easily the worst! 2x 4 day breaks plus having to play in 3 states in 10 days. The Tassie game kills us, I assume we are going there because we will be absolved of playing in Perth as we've already played the Eagles? Very interested to see who else goes there at the moment it's just us and Brisbane and Brisbane won't leave Queensland until then. The "bye" we've already had kills us as well, absolute rubbish the AFL will get away with that, surely the AFLPA would have something to say about that?? Quote
John Lord 128 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 We have a tough draw ahead. Bris and Collingwood are amongst the hardest teams to play. On paper Adelaide and North should be wins but Adelaide are a 4 goal better side on their own oval and will have the crowd factor. A small crowd the other night definitely influenced the umpires. The North game is at ground where they do not drop a game. The wind howls at that ground and the crowd factor will again be against us. Our last three matches have been close there but the free kick differential was well against us in all of these games 1 Quote
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