IMO, because of the way this season has and is unfolding, no Premiership Flag should be awarded.

Teams that should have had softer draws have lost them.

Games have been abandoned.

Some matches are suggested to be against depleted sides.

Teams being forced to play extra games during the week, affecting those games and the following ones.

This is a joke of a football season, that of course is out of the AFL's control, as they just need the money for games on TV.

So no flag to the winner, unless of course it is Melbourne and then it should count as three Premiership Flags because of the difficulties we faced.

TV would not pay for a season without the usual finals and this year is all about the TV money and of course distracting the plebs from asking for a refund

There have been compromised seasons in the past (VFL) that awarded a flag. 

  On 21/06/2020 at 07:18, Ham said:

There have been compromised seasons in the past (VFL) that awarded a flag. 

Not like this one is turning out to be.

  On 21/06/2020 at 07:19, Redleg said:

Not like this one is turning out to be.

True, but I still think they will award a flag.

  On 21/06/2020 at 07:20, Ham said:

True, but I still think they will award a flag.

You might like the new AFL rule brought in today then.

If any team in the GF is outed due to virus positive tests, then the team in the AFL that has never played in a GF will play the remaining team and will be given a 12 goal start, to even up for the fact that they had to fly in from the GC.

Sounds a fair rule to me.

Edited June 21, 20204 yr by Redleg

There will be a flag, and because we won't win it we can hang [censored] on whoever does.

  On 21/06/2020 at 07:19, Redleg said:

Not like this one is turning out to be.

WWI says hi.

An earlier post said in jest what if a GF team test positive in the week before the Granny? Well it could happen and based on todays rules as long as a club has 22 players and emergencies they play. Essendon stand to lose their entire back 6 as it stands. MFC were training in groups as well the 7 mids, 7 backs as are other clubs. The GF would be a real drawcard with half a team out.

I’d say that it will be informally written off as not a real flag, but for key rights stakeholders it will need to officially remain a premiership season for reasons mostly financial. 

The season has been bastardised, manipulated and truncated so much that it could never be considered a legitimate premiership in the eyes of most fans at least until it’s forgotten in a few decades. Will be known as the COVID Cup. Won’t be worth much bragging rights unless backed up with a real premiership when things get back to normal.

Edited June 21, 20204 yr by america de cali

  On 21/06/2020 at 07:10, Redleg said:

IMO, because of the way this season has and is unfolding, no Premiership Flag should be awarded.

Teams that should have had softer draws have lost them.

Games have been abandoned.

Some matches are suggested to be against depleted sides.

Teams being forced to play extra games during the week, affecting those games and the following ones.

This is a joke of a football season, that of course is out of the AFL's control, as they just need the money for games on TV.

So no flag to the winner, unless of course it is Melbourne and then it should count as three Premiership Flags because of the difficulties we faced.

You mean like our 3 peat in 1939-41?

If you take the premiership away clubs have nothing to play for. And sadly the competition won’t survive financially if we don’t have a season this year, no matter how compromised. 

  On 21/06/2020 at 09:25, america de cali said:

The season has been bastardised, manipulated and truncated so much that it could never be considered a legitimate premiership in the eyes of most fans. Will be forever known as the COVID Cup. Won’t be worth much bragging rights unless backed up with a real premiership when things get back to normal.

I remember when the Spurs won the 99 NBA Championship, a season cut short by player lockout. Only a 60 game season I think. There was an asterix next to it for a long while until the Spurs won again I think 6 years later. Ultimately became one of the best teams of this century so far. 

I'd go all out for this year's flag, and use it as a launching pad to a strong decade. I mentioned in another thread that I can see one of Richmond Collingwood West Coat and GWS falling down and missing finals this year, may well end up being 2-3 of them.

This year's flag is up for the taking. It may well be the easiest AND hardest flag you could win.

  On 21/06/2020 at 07:19, Redleg said:

Not like this one is turning out to be.

The world war years, both of them? 
 

For mine the more I think about it, once it is consigned to history and past our generation, no one really cares. Like no one talks about the hardships of the 1923 season and granny. There is history but I’ve never had a conversation relating to extraordinary circumstances in an AFL season. I feel like we spend to much time worrying about the right now when it really doesn’t mean anything if you know what I mean. 

Edited June 21, 20204 yr by Cards13

Said it before but my preference was to have a break until about July/August and then have some kind of off-shoot Ansett/Wizard/Nab Cup style tournament that could have any kind of round robin format they can think of that would last a couple of months and give people something to watch along with giving players match practice. I think it could have been a good chance to brand it as something else and differentiate itself from the usual premiership cup and they could have finished it around the regular time of year without having to go deep into the racing calendar.

But go on AFL, keep trying to raise this premiership season from the dead.

  On 21/06/2020 at 07:10, Redleg said:

IMO, because of the way this season has and is unfolding, no Premiership Flag should be awarded.

Teams that should have had softer draws have lost them.

Games have been abandoned.

Some matches are suggested to be against depleted sides.

Teams being forced to play extra games during the week, affecting those games and the following ones.

This is a joke of a football season, that of course is out of the AFL's control, as they just need the money for games on TV.

So no flag to the winner, unless of course it is Melbourne and then it should count as three Premiership Flags because of the difficulties we faced.

Which game has been abandoned?

So we don’t get to play a depleted Bummer side where others from next week onwards may.   We will no doubt be rescheduled midweek after their ‘rested’ players return and we have had a hard weekend.  
Once again we are screwed by the Bummers and the AFL looking after them. 

Edited June 21, 20204 yr by monoccular

Totally agree the integrity of the competition is indeed questionable with what’s occurred in particular the teams in interstate hubs who have been affected and not sure how a premiership winners would be worthy. Unfortunately $$$ are driving the comp, but I wouldn’t enjoy or happy if the Demons won. 
 

  On 21/06/2020 at 07:19, Redleg said:

Not like this one is turning out to be.

1916 Fitzroy won the spoon and the flag in a 4 team competition.

Seriously what a bunch of negative nellies D/L has providing posts.

like in life nothing was meant to be easy that's with fighting for.

Hss anyone questioned the war years and flags then?

Last time  I checked flags counted as the same as in non war years and the Clubs didn't discriminate nor due the record books.

It is what it is!

HAve the attitude that we play any where any time and give everything because some  Clubs  may not And should care  if you win it whatever happens.

Afterwards don't devalue or Discriminate  the Effort of the eventual premier!!!  
 

Oh and please don't bore the pages of social media with post after post of hard  luck stories of inequality and Favouritism or chances lost due to fate!

 

 

  On 21/06/2020 at 11:55, 58er said:

Seriously what a bunch of negative nellies D/L has providing posts.

like in life nothing was meant to be easy that's with fighting for.

Hss anyone questioned the war years and flags then?

Last time  I checked flags counted as the same as in non war years and the Clubs didn't discriminate nor due the record books.

It is what it is!

HAve the attitude that we play any where any time and give everything because some  Clubs  may not And should care  if you win it whatever happens.

Afterwards don't devalue or Discriminate  the Effort of the eventual premier!!!  
 

Oh and please don't bore the pages of social media with post after post of hard  luck stories of inequality and Favouritism or chances lost due to fate!

 

 

Yeap, couple of hours ago, post 15. 

Yeah the war years were rough but was anyone here around for them?

It is absolutely true that there have been compromised seasons but let's not pretend we're comparing apples and apples. Pre draft, pre salary cap, pre equalization, pre professional game list goes on.

Edited June 21, 20204 yr by layzie

  On 21/06/2020 at 11:32, Dr. Gonzo said:

1916 Fitzroy won the spoon and the flag in a 4 team competition.

So, there is still hope for this 2020 AFL season when we compare it to 1916:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916_VFL_season

 

  On 21/06/2020 at 09:46, loges said:

Which game has been abandoned?

In its current format, our game today.

It will be replaced in a timeslot that impacts us both for that game and the following one, you can be sure.

Also the team make up will be different and again I am sure we won't get the benefit of a depleted Bombers side like Carlton and other teams might.

I am not whingeing, merely stating that this is such a compromised season as to be treated differently in the AFL records.

If people disagree that is their right and if they say we just follow the rules, then what would they say if the season was abandoned next week and the AFL said that the team on top of the ladder is the Premier.