Melbourne vs Essendon Postponed

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Anyone catch the Channel 7 report? Caught the end of it. McKenna reportedly was at club this morning and came into contact with a select few. Pretty sure they said all Ess players/staff will get tested but not until Tuesday. 

Edited June 20, 2020 by Dee Zephyr

[bing181 9,193]

1 minute ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Anyone catch the Channel 7 report? Caught the end of it. McKenna reportedly was at club this morning and came into contact with a selected few. Pretty sure they said all Ess players/staff will get tested but not until Tuesday. 

Tuesday is the next test. All other players/staff were tested again Saturday (all negative).

[titan_uranus 24,963]

1 minute ago, Rusty Nails said:

Not if all teams are isolated within their hubs and protocol is followed to the letter TU

AFAIK current protocol allows players to do a whole lot of normal activities within the community.

If people in the community spread the virus, the risk will increase that a Victorian player will contract it from going to the supermarket, or getting a haircut, etc..

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

And they want to let foriegn students back in the country. It is just pathetic. Make em quarantine at windy  hill.

Ok Donald... 

[Half forward flank 1,022]

15 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

There's a lot of misreporting and speculation on here.

He trained yesterday but he hadn't returned the positive test yet. First one yesterday afternoon, second one this morning.

There's no evidence Essendon did anything wrong.

He didn't bring it back from overseas. There's no evidence he personally has done anything wrong. 

So what happens from here?

I suppose the best case scenario from here is Essendon goes into isolation, all of its players and staff test negative a number of times, no other club tests positive, and the comp continues with the infection being limited to just McKenna.

Frequent testing is the only thing keeping the comp going. If we test players frequently enough, we'll catch a positive test before they play another team, limiting the need to put people into isolation. Can we get through another 14.5 rounds plus finals like this? If the infection rate in Victoria is starting to rise again, you'd have to think it's going to be a tough ask.

Seems you havent seen the footage of him snotting all over his hands at training. He does not fo off to clean has hands, just gets his hands on the ball to pass on to teamates. So no hygiene training or enforcement at Windy Hill

[Diamond_Jim 12,509]

8 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

It has already happened in NRL, player test positive, rest of team tested, come up negative,game played a day later, NRL season still going on, so it will be no different for AFL, season not even close to over, all Sydney players have tested negative, since everyone is tested midweek, and Connor did not play, stop jumping to conclusions, season going ahead, Rest have tested negative will be tested again before game is played, so no need for quarantine if no one else has it. That's. The biggest problem with the rules no common sense.

don't think so

A teacher tested positive. A player's child went to the same school. Game was delayed to allow the player to be tested

https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league/nrl-match-postponed-for-covid-19-check-c-1099534

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

Yep.. or got it on the flight / airports coming in.  Possibly incubation way beyond 14 days if he got it over there.

What has Sky News said about it???? Bloody foreigners!

[titan_uranus 24,963]

1 minute ago, Half forward flank said:

Seems you havent seen the footage of him snotting all over his hands at training. He does not fo off to clean has hands, just gets his hands on the ball to pass on to teamates. So no hygiene training or enforcement at Windy Hill

I've just seen that footage. Certainly worse than I had imagined, given he was in the middle of a drill and then returned to it without appearing to clean/wash his hands.

I don't know what we or other clubs are doing but of course, every time someone gets tackled I'm sure they release plenty of spit from their mouths, so the risk of that sort of thing happening is going to be inherent in any AFL match.

[Cards13 9,117]

50 minutes ago, sue said:

As much as I agree with your general sentiments re Essendon,  they could have taken the bet that the Friday test was wrong, knowing he could be withdrawn if Sat proved +ve.  Trouble is in the latter case, we'd be where we are now. So I don't think merely naming him in the side was naughty in itself.  There may be naughtiness however.  We shall see (or probaby not).

Taking the bet it was wrong?! Sue you’re an intelligent, reasoned poster but seriously how could they have bet It was wrong... 

Its Essendon, everything is fine, nothing to see here... uhm we were mislead! 

[Cards13 9,117]

40 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

No he wasn't, didn't train today, it was reported he didn't, if you must go off on one of your your over emotive rants, then get your facts straight first

It was reported on multiple radio stations he did train with the team. I heard it on 2. 

[Biffen 12,940]

Cobblers.

[Mental Demons 136]

22 minutes ago, Rocky Racoon said:

If Essendon cannot field a team in accordance with AFL requirements (ie no infections) then they should forfeit the match and the four points goes to Melbourne!

The season is hollow enough, I would rather earn the win beating them at footy.

[Hogan2014 390]

Honestly this season is screwed, one compromise after another, understand the health of all is paramount but the integrity of the comp is in question here now. Game postponed, clubs in interstate hubs, not sure how this is fair for many clubs! Common sense is needed & surely this season should not count for any points or premierships. 

Edited June 20, 2020 by Hogan2014

[Hogan2014 390]

1 minute ago, Mental Demons said:

The season is hollow enough, I would rather earn the win beating them at footy.

Agree we want to see all clubs win deservedly with no handouts etc that’s why this year premiers will be very hollow!

[sue 9,096]

3 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

Honestly this season is screwed, one compromise after another, understand the health of all is paramount but the integrity of the comp is in question here now. Game postponed, clubs in interstate hubs, not sure how this is fair for many clubs! Common sense is needed & surely this season should not count for any points or premierships. 

I fear you are right.  It may end up just a season with an evolving fixture of what would then be ad hoc practice matches with a chance to try out some new players and ideas.

[Ungarieboy 429]

As I understand it, it takes time for a (the) virus to infect a host sufficiently to show up in a test, therefore the quarantine.  

You don't cough on someone and they are instantly positive; it's got to infect the host, grow in the host and then spread to the throat, lung, nasal regions to be able to be captured on a swab.

Edited June 20, 2020 by Ungarieboy

[Sir Why You Little 36,917]

10 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

It was reported on multiple radio stations he did train with the team. I heard it on 2. 

Yes that’s what I heard 

couldn’t be bothered arguing the point with Satyr

The crux is whether Ess got the result last night or this morning 

i have heard different reports 

[Sir Why You Little 36,917]

1 minute ago, Ungarieboy said:

As I understand it, it takes time for a (the) virus to infect a host sufficiently to show up in a test, therefore the quarantine.  

You don't cough on someone and they are instantly; it's got to infect the host, grow in the host and then spread to the throat, lungd, nasal regions to be able to be captured on a swab.

Correct. The virus ? has barbs on it so it can attach itself. Takes time to travel

Everyone is different 

[Redleg 40,777]

31 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Anyone catch the Channel 7 report? Caught the end of it. McKenna reportedly was at club this morning and came into contact with a select few. Pretty sure they said all Ess players/staff will get tested but not until Tuesday. 

No he wasn’t at the club this morning.

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1 minute ago, Redleg said:

No he wasn’t at the club this morning.

Fox footy reported he was To do his test.

[Nasher 33,607]

If he trained this morning, Essendon are culpable. 

If he didn’t, the whole thing is just rotten bad luck.

It’s an important fact to get to the bottom of.

[Watts the matter 1,235]

Just now, Nasher said:

If he trained this morning, Essendon are culpable. 

If he didn’t, the whole thing is just rotten bad luck.

It’s an important fact to get to the bottom of.

From what I understand, he went to the club today to do a test, not to train and had limited exposure to other people. Still strange why they would do the test at the club.

[deanox 9,894]

2 hours ago, goodoil said:

Well he did the mandatory 14-day quarantine, so they are either wrong about how long it can become detectible or he has contracted it in Australia. Not ideal either way.

Something like 90% of people show symptoms in 5 days, and 99% within 14 days. But there have been reported case of 25+ days after exposure. They have chosen 14 days as the bench mark.

Also, if asymptomatic and not tested, he may have had it since his 14 days quarantine (May 30) but just didn't notice until the test this week (3 weeks later). Seems unlikely, but possible.

[Skuit 10,028]

How many players and administrators are currently involved in the AFL - let's say roughly 1500 - all ostensibly following the same protocols? How many of those have traveled overseas over the past couple of months? I'm intrigued by this coincidence. Also, how many grew up in Europe? This virus still has so much to reveal. I suspect Conor could end up providing some clues.  

[Demonstone 22,200]

That Corona McKenna has caused a lot of trouble.