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Sheesh, was just reading about it. Details are sketchy though, hope he’s ok.

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    https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/geelong-star-jack-steven-hospitalised-after-incident/ef591f1c-3441-4d3f-a017-42e684fe9cb0

    Article say he is expected to physically recover which is good news on one level.  But does make you wounder what the heck is going on in his life for something to escalate to that point too.  Of coarse, it could have been completely random, but unlikely.

    I must say, I feel somewhat conflicted on this, because on a human level very much hope this guy gets his life together and has health and happiness, but all the same, I'd also be very glad for him not to deliver anything substantial for Geelong on field.

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    it's pretty awful

    hopefully he recovers okay, but it's hard to imagine football is his priority if his first action post-lockdown is to go out and get into a barney that results in him being stabbed

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    25 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/geelong-star-jack-steven-hospitalised-after-incident/ef591f1c-3441-4d3f-a017-42e684fe9cb0

    Article say he is expected to physically recover which is good news on one level.  But does make you wounder what the heck is going on in his life for something to escalate to that point too.  Of coarse, it could have been completely random, but unlikely.

    I must say, I feel somewhat conflicted on this, because on a human level very much hope this guy gets his life together and has health and happiness, but all the same, I'd also be very glad for him not to deliver anything substantial for Geelong on field.

    I tend to think that the only way he will really have health and happiness is if he IS performing well and delivering on the field.  I have no idea of the circumstances either, but it's entirely possible that he got himself into a situation where he was taking out pent up frustrations at not being able to play, on others, with disastrous results. I hope I'm wrong.

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    9 minutes ago, hardtack said:

    I tend to think that the only way he will really have health and happiness is if he IS performing well and delivering on the field.  I have no idea of the circumstances either, but it's entirely possible that he got himself into a situation where he was taking out pent up frustrations at not being able to play, on others, with disastrous results. I hope I'm wrong.

    well ht, he's already 30 so would have a limited opportunity for redemption through playing footy, in fact as his problems previously escalated he dropped out of footy. so no, he needs to build a new life away from footy and any other bad associations.

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    After reading the Brock McLean article I can't help but think he's in the same mould. Hopefully he gets it together.

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    32 minutes ago, layzie said:

    After reading the Brock McLean article I can't help but think he's in the same mould. Hopefully he gets it together.

    Perhaps the same mould. Steven’s ailment is mental whereas the other bloke’s just a [censored].

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    It still staggers me how these people with supposed mental health issues are continually into the drinking, drugs or hang around with the wrong crowds. Get rid of those 3 things to start with and I’d say it has to help your well being. 

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    Stevens has addiction issues. Unsure if they’re the result or cause of his mental issues also.

    Stevens was breaching AFL isolation and social distancing rules and will be in trouble regardless of what happens. He’s also not willing to give police any details surrounding the incident. Seems very likely to be drug dealer stuff gone wrong. 

    He’ll likely never play any meaningful AFL level footy again. It’s a shame to lose another talented footballer to drugs. It’s also a shame that mental health is becoming a go-to excuse to cover other less savory choices and issues.

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    2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    well ht, he's already 30 so would have a limited opportunity for redemption through playing footy, in fact as his problems previously escalated he dropped out of footy. so no, he needs to build a new life away from footy and any other bad associations.

    You make a good point DC... I hadn't even considered his age; in that case, yes, he needs to get some clean air.

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    It’s a worry that it is likely the AFL will cut player welfare staff to cut costs. I hope not.

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    1 hour ago, Nelo said:

    It still staggers me how these people with supposed mental health issues are continually into the drinking, drugs or hang around with the wrong crowds.

    Drinking, drugs and poor life choices are as much a symptom of mental health issues as they are a cause.

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    9 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

    Drinking, drugs and poor life choices are as much a symptom of mental health issues as they are a cause.

    Have to agree to disagree on that one. 

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    1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

    Stevens has addiction issues. Unsure if they’re the result or cause of his mental issues also.

    Stevens was breaching AFL isolation and social distancing rules and will be in trouble regardless of what happens. He’s also not willing to give police any details surrounding the incident. Seems very likely to be drug dealer stuff gone wrong. 

    He’ll likely never play any meaningful AFL level footy again. It’s a shame to lose another talented footballer to drugs. It’s also a shame that mental health is becoming a go-to excuse to cover other less savory choices and issues.

    Yes. If he is not talking to the Police after being stabbed, then he is in a dark World, somewhere not far from Benny Cousins 

     

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    5 hours ago, Nelo said:

    It still staggers me how these people with supposed mental health issues are continually into the drinking, drugs or hang around with the wrong crowds. Get rid of those 3 things to start with and I’d say it has to help your well being. 

     

    3 hours ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

    Drinking, drugs and poor life choices are as much a symptom of mental health issues as they are a cause.

     

    3 hours ago, Nelo said:

    Have to agree to disagree on that one. 

    That's a strange thing to say 'Nelo'...

    Drugs can be the cause of the mental issues and no doubt staying off them would be an enormous help.

    ...but quite often it is people with pre existing mental issues self medicating that go down this rabbit hole.

    Once in the cycle it's a difficult one to break, it's not as simple as just walking away.

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    Why was he back in a Melbourne? Apparently this took place in stonnington. I thought he chose Geelong as he wanted to be back living on the surf coast, away from Melbourne. 

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    44 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

    Why was he back in a Melbourne? Apparently this took place in stonnington. I thought he chose Geelong as he wanted to be back living on the surf coast, away from Melbourne. 

    chapel st, prahran is way more fun at 2am than main street, corio

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    14 hours ago, chook fowler said:

    It’s a worry that it is likely the AFL will cut player welfare staff to cut costs. I hope not.

    doubtful. too high a business risk. suspect it'll be operational/football staff let go.

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    8 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    chapel st, prahran is way more fun at 2am than main street, corio

    getting stabbed is fun?  chapel st at 2am is fun?.......................yeah sure

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    9 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

    Why was he back in a Melbourne? Apparently this took place in stonnington. I thought he chose Geelong as he wanted to be back living on the surf coast, away from Melbourne. 

    Think this matter might be more ‘private’ in nature than some of the more sinister assumptions people are making. Still pretty f’d up though.

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