See what he wants and give a red and blue offer.

Blue is the agreed portion of the contracted time or money. And secures him for the future.

Red is the potential of the other component. (a credit offer to be adjusted at the end of the season) when his contract is up and based on his performance. The club can sell this as a desire not to undervalue and exploit Trac.

The red can be finalised at any time during the season if both parties agree.

The blue gives certainty and guarantees, the red allows for Trac to increase his value through performance. 

But I Agree secure him now, he is not only maturing as a player but seems to have an inclusive presence at training. He seems to have a great relationship with teammates. Pictures often show him with arm around teammates sharing jokes , always smiling..

  On 23/02/2020 at 12:59, don't make me angry said:

The boys Italian we don't leave our mate's, sign him now he will be worth 1 million a season by season end

You're Italian? Explains a lot. 

  On 23/02/2020 at 11:45, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Are we really that desperate that we need to rush in and sign before he has even played one H&A game in 2020.  Just let him settle.

Do you think we might loser him if he hasn't signed on by June.?   I don't think he is going anywhere but to be in Red and Blue.

Let him play, and get into a routine and see what his form really is,  and then make the contract accordingly, at that time.

We don't need to panic and rush these things.

 “Balls” Grinter has summed it up pretty well in his replies above

I never bought into the article last year that had Petracca in the top five forwards in the competition. His disposal wasn’t damaging enough, he missed easy shots on goal and went missing in patches never putting a four qtr game together. During last years trade period I threw his name up as a potential trade option. I received some criticism for that but when I asked what games he had dominated off his own boot there was no reply. Saturday’s game was his best to date but keeping things in perspective it was against a largely inexperienced Adelaide side. He now needs to show that form in the home and away season, not just against the bottom sides but against the likes of Richmond, GWS, Western Bulldogs,  WCE and Collingwood, then again in finals should we make it. This obviously doesn’t guarantee us a win every time he fires but we need to see consistency from him before we offer a four to five year deal on big money. Other clubs can show interest in him, clubs show interest in every player out of contract. We’ve been good to him as a club and if he can deliver on field he will get rewarded, but right now it’s still very much based on potential and cameos. We only need to look as far back as Hogan to understand how far potential can get you, for all of his bags of goals against bottom sides Hogan never dominated against quality opposition. If Petracca can dominate this season than give him a blank cheque for five years but until then we wait. 

  On 23/02/2020 at 12:25, spirit of norm smith said:

5 years deal through to 2025 imo

I'd love for that to happen, but I'm thinking Petracca and his management would prefer a 2 year extension, as that would take him to free agency.

  On 24/02/2020 at 01:48, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I never bought into the article last year that had Petracca in the top five forwards in the competition. His disposal wasn’t damaging enough, he missed easy shots on goal and went missing in patches never putting a four qtr game together. During last years trade period I threw his name up as a potential trade option. I received some criticism for that but when I asked what games he had dominated off his own boot there was no reply. Saturday’s game was his best to date but keeping things in perspective it was against a largely inexperienced Adelaide side. He now needs to show that form in the home and away season, not just against the bottom sides but against the likes of Richmond, GWS, Western Bulldogs,  WCE and Collingwood, then again in finals should we make it. This obviously doesn’t guarantee us a win every time he fires but we need to see consistency from him before we offer a four to five year deal on big money. Other clubs can show interest in him, clubs show interest in every player out of contract. We’ve been good to him as a club and if he can deliver on field he will get rewarded, but right now it’s still very much based on potential and cameos. We only need to look as far back as Hogan to understand how far potential can get you, for all of his bags of goals against bottom sides Hogan never dominated against quality opposition. If Petracca can dominate this season than give him a blank cheque for five years but until then we wait. 

Well said.  At the moment still a jack of all trades but master of none and a poor mans Dustin Martin. The promise is there and so are the ifs and buts. I am concerned  about signing him up early on a big deal because he hasn’t shown any tangible consistency and output. We may have to pay a higher price later but if he delivers he will be worth it. 

Edited February 24, 20205 yr by america de cali

$81 for the 2020 Brownlow was enough for me to part company with $10. A “poor mans Dustin Martin”?, I don’t think so

Sign him up ASAP because, whatever he wants, the price will be cheaper,  and we don't want the rest of the worst industry in the AFL world talking sh%% about our player going to bloody Carlton or Collingwood. The pressure is going to be right up the SCAB Media's alley, and they love behaving like that.......

Lets just pay up and move on, we wont regret it. Two years is too short.

 Get it done!!!?

I guess I'll put this one here. 

 

Price and term heading north quickly. Sign him long term now.

  On 23/02/2020 at 20:31, Dr. Gonzo said:

Tell that to Barassi ?

What after 250 games and norm Smith tell him to experience another club

  On 23/02/2020 at 20:57, ProperDee said:

WWII?

Once Mussolini was dead Hitler had no mates and Italy

  On 23/02/2020 at 22:16, Moonshadow said:

You're Italian? Explains a lot. 

Better than being the grant great-grandson of a criminal convict

  On 24/02/2020 at 05:37, Demonland said:

I guess I'll put this one here. 

 

Not really a big call, truck has worked hard in the preseason comeback fitter than he's ever been, Jordan has come back fat 

You don't leave a player like him unsigned and give the oppo clubs a chance to swoop in....Essendon for example will have Daniher money freed up and Richmond will have Rance's cash burning a hole in their salary cap 

  On 24/02/2020 at 02:38, america de cali said:

Well said.  At the moment still a jack of all trades but master of none and a poor mans Dustin Martin. The promise is there and so are the ifs and buts. I am concerned  about signing him up early on a big deal because he hasn’t shown any tangible consistency and output. We may have to pay a higher price later but if he delivers he will be worth it. 

I disagree, he has been a steady builder since his knee reco. He was a top performer last year and is looking like taking it to the next level this year. If Saturday was anything to go by he will be worth $1m by the end of the year. He deserves a solid contract and, personally, I'd like to get it done ASAP. At 600-800k he is a safe investment. 

  On 24/02/2020 at 07:00, FlashInThePan said:

I disagree, he has been a steady builder since his knee reco. He was a top performer last year and is looking like taking it to the next level this year. If Saturday was anything to go by he will be worth $1m by the end of the year. He deserves a solid contract and, personally, I'd like to get it done ASAP. At 600-800k he is a safe investment. 

I might change my opinion if he tears up WC in pressure cooker Optus Stadium. A blinder in a low intensity practice game promises everything but proves nothing. 

  On 24/02/2020 at 07:17, america de cali said:

I might change my opinion if he tears up WC in pressure cooker Optus Stadium. A blinder in a low intensity practice game promises everything but proves nothing. 

Agreed. That could change everything 

Let’s see last saturday’s game for the real stuff

I think he will do it...

  On 24/02/2020 at 07:00, FlashInThePan said:

I disagree, he has been a steady builder since his knee reco

Steady builder in the tuck shop, since his first days.

 

This past Pre season is the very first he has done real extra fitness work,  and it is now showing.  Its about time, he got real about his career and the effort he puts in to get his body right. Still could lose some more Kgs,  but at least he has put way more into his cardio vascular work.

The next couple of Pre-season efforts will dictate just how high he reaches, in AFL terms.

As others have said he may be on the cusp of delivering but so far not there.

On the other hand the salary cap has to be paid and the three of Oliver Brayshaw and Petracca are what we are relying on. Getting him signed for another 3 years post 2020 makes sense.

  On 24/02/2020 at 06:26, don't make me angry said:

Better than being the grant great-grandson of a criminal convict

Wrong again 'don't my make me coherent'!

  On 24/02/2020 at 02:43, bobby1554 said:

$81 for the 2020 Brownlow was enough for me to part company with $10. A “poor mans Dustin Martin”?, I don’t think so

I am on him at 501/1 ?

  On 24/02/2020 at 10:04, Gorgoroth said:

I am on him at 501/1 ?

How much did you put on?

  On 25/02/2020 at 03:49, old dee said:

How much did you put on?

Just a $5.

Bontempelli is my pick, then I always put some on a dark horse, last year it was Neale at $51.

Thought Trac was too good to not spare a fiver at those odds.

TAKE THE DISCUSSION HERE: https://demonland.com/forums/topic/47742-petracca-signs-on-until-2022/

 

Edited February 25, 20205 yr by Demonland
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