Training Ground?

[george_on_the_outer 7,048]

5 hours ago, Demonland said:

Every preseason I see Dees players running around Caulfield Park which is a stones throw from the Racecourse. Many of the players live in the surrounding suburbs. It would be massive for the players not to have to drive over an hour to get to training. 

.....and back. 

And when you lose two finals matches by a total of 9 points, that could well have been the difference, more so when it is spread across the pre-season and season proper.  It adds up to dozens of hours not spent in the gym, physio or on the track that other sides are able to use to prepare their players for the best opportunity.

[Fritta and Turner 3,810]

Could i jst point out the following :

1.  The MRC dont own Caulfield, they lease the facilities from the Trust at a low amount.

2.  We are not building a social club nor a practice match or match facility but an elite training and admin facility under the one 'roof'.

3.  In the words of Roffey 'we received funding...' - does anyone know from whom?

4.  ah bugger I have forgotten

5.  My opinoins are not biased by the fact that I live within a 10 minute walk, not at all

[Dr. Gonzo 22,572]

On 16/10/2023 at 07:29, rpfc said:

Those sound like eerily like excuses.

We have enough as 2021 showed. The club can take its time to get the right facility.

In 2021 we didn't get to use our facilities for much of the year and nor did our opponents theirs.

[chookrat 3,778]

6 hours ago, seventyfour said:

Melbourne is now the largest city in Australia. Any land available of the size we need is either way out in the suburbs or nowhere near public transport. Yes, the ideal sitaution would be a home base at the MCG, but it's just not feasible in the real world.

IMO Caulfield is a fantastic option.

As far as transport goes, obviously Caufield station is right there, 6 stops from Richmond. In the long-term future, a proposal exists for a trackless tram connecting Caulfield to Rowville via Chadstone and Monash Clayton. The first part of the suburban rail loop to open will be the SRL East, which links into the Frankston, Cranbourne and Pakenham lines.

Isn't trackless tram just a fancy word for bus?

[daisycutter 28,663]

1 minute ago, chookrat said:

Isn't trackless tram just a fancy word for bus?

or trolley bus. i remember them as a kid

[dees189227 10,952]

I'll wait for our training facilities to be completed for us when I wait for the airport rail to come in, the roadworks to be finished in melbourne and the rail loop to be completed. They alll feel many many years away. 

It's a disgrace the oldest club has never had a proper training facility. 

[Demon Disciple 11,089]

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

It's a disgrace the oldest club has never had a proper training facility. 

Clearly MFC boards up until now haven’t had it as their #1 priority. It’s simply been an issue they’ve kicked further down the road.

Edited December 16, 2023 by Demon Disciple

[Demon Disciple 11,089]

22 hours ago, deva5610 said:

And brand spanking new facilities at Casey....

Quite right deva, at least Casey is more contemporary and fit for purpose than our base at Gosch’s.

Which was kinda the point I was raising. Our main training facility compared to most other teams is well below standard (and will remain so until late this decade at the earliest).

[Demonsone 1,639]

28 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Clearly MFC boards up until now haven’t had it as their #1 priority. It’s simply been an issue they’ve kicked further down the road.

The glass house Olympic park was offered around 20yrs to the club but was rejected by either Gutnick ,Sznody, Gardner era as we couldn’t afford it,  unfortunately when the club was continuously in survival mode & broke its hard to plan ahead ..you look at the junction oval now and say why wasn’t that explored even the saints couldn’t make it work. The fact that Daniher had to work out of portables & players had the worst training facilities and using cones as goals in preseason is amazing that he’s sides played in finals plus a GF! The fact it’s 2024 and we still get get kicked off AAMI due to functions etc inc the women’s WC is a joke, so if Caulfield is the answer go for it 

Edited December 16, 2023 by Demonsone

[daisycutter 28,663]

2 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

The glass house Olympic park was offered around 20yrs to the club but was rejected by either Gutnick ,Sznody, Gardner era as we couldn’t afford it,  unfortunately when the club was continuously in survival mode & broke its hard to plan ahead ..you look at the junction oval now and say why wasn’t that explored even the saints couldn’t make it work. The fact that Daniher had to work out of portables & players had the worst training facilities and using cones as goals in preseason is amazing that he’s sides played in finals plus a GF! The fact it’s 2024 and we still get get kicked off AAMI due to functions etc inc the women’s WC is a joke, so if Caulfield is the answer go for it 

olympic park was not offered ... just glasshouse and goschs paddock

i'm getting sick of correcting this misinformation.

[Demonsone 1,639]

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

olympic park was not offered ... just glasshouse and goschs paddock

i'm getting sick of correcting this misinformation.

I stand to be corrected but the area of we’re the filth (pies) who are rubbing it in our faces took it whilst we were rattling cans to survive and 20yrs later we are split to 3 areas with a training ground almost 60 mins away.. Winning the flag in 21 shows how great it was compared to what the other 17 clubs have to deal with!

[Pennant St Dee 11,404]

On 15/12/2023 at 15:08, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Have you ever done the walk up to the Hellfire Club, PSD? I loved all of the stories about the place. I went up there once on a walk to Massy's Woods. 

Yes did it a few times, remember one time I did it in December with deep snow when I was a kid, nearly ended up with hypothermia. Few hours in front of the fireplace when I got home to thaw out

[bluey 893]

Yeh sure, this sketch cost 300 grand.

[bluey 893]

Hilarious

[bluey 893]

Well that’s good news

[deva5610 970]

5 minutes ago, bluey said:

Well that’s good news

Can somebody fix the broken record please?

[Diamond_Jim 11,967]

32 minutes ago, deva5610 said:

Can somebody fix the broken record please?

In fairness.. we've had a number of false starts.

This one sounds promising but it has so many ifs and "stakeholders" that I'm not quite excited as yet

[deva5610 970]

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

In fairness.. we've had a number of false starts.

I get it, but there's no need to bang on about it over multiple posts as if to say this one is going to be another disaster that comes to nothing.

It might, it might not, but let's at least give the team that has put the club into one of the best states I've ever seen it in a chance, before we all start with the MFCSS.

[monoccular 16,328]

23 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Why do people care about the distance from them? By the time we’ve settled on a location and the facility is complete, you’ll be able to just beam yourself directly there.

Sadly I think by the time this gets to fruition, many of us will be looking down from a great height playing a harp, or trying to suss out what is going on in a very hot place avoiding magma pools. 

[Kent 2,613]

19 hours ago, seventyfour said:

Melbourne is now the largest city in Australia. Any land available of the size we need is either way out in the suburbs or nowhere near public transport. Yes, the ideal sitaution would be a home base at the MCG, but it's just not feasible in the real world.

IMO Caulfield is a fantastic option.

As far as transport goes, obviously Caufield station is right there, 6 stops from Richmond. In the long-term future, a proposal exists for a trackless tram connecting Caulfield to Rowville via Chadstone and Monash Clayton. The first part of the suburban rail loop to open will be the SRL East, which links into the Frankston, Cranbourne and Pakenham lines.

SRL is a  PIPE DREAM Wont last beyond the next election in my view There are better projects t improve connectivity in melbourne

[DeeZone 7,896]

I’m thinking 2028, another reason to hang in there, 50th wedding anniversary, 83rd birthday, two more premierships and our own elite training and fitness facility. That would be the icing on the cake. Get on board you doubting Thomas’s just make it happen.

[Deebauched 1,219]

Just endless talkfests. If not a gov hurdle then a local environmental pressure group or resident action group  will block any  MFC proposal.

Essendon has a nice setup at Tulla.

Lets share it .   LOL

Not a bad idea considering we spend more time than any other Vic club travelling interstate.

[DeeZone 7,896]

2 hours ago, Deebauched said:

Just endless talkfests. If not a gov hurdle then a local environmental pressure group or resident action group  will block any  MFC proposal.

Essendon has a nice setup at Tulla.

Lets share it .   LOL

Not a bad idea considering we spend more time than any other Vic club travelling interstate.

Jeez DB I wouldn’t even share Covid with that mob.🤣🤣🤣

[Hawk the Demon 556]

16 hours ago, deva5610 said:

Can somebody fix the broken record please?

That might happen when our leaders tells us straight why the MCG precinct is hot a happening thing.

Poor old Club 11 poured $500k into Gosch's, as did the AFL - in 2021. Something then went pear-shaped?

[drysdale demon 4,193]

1 hour ago, Hawk the Demon said:

Poor old Club 11 poured $500k into Gosch's, as did the AFL - in 2021. Something then went pear-shaped?

Yeah it did, we won the premiership.