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WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - MITCH BROWN

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17 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

 

Speak for yourself, just because people don't bag the club does not mean they accept the performances of the club

Not to mention there is bugger all we can do about it anyway.

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    38 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    The maximum list size is 47 which figure includes up to 3 Category B rookies. You don’t draft Category B rookies - you select them if they fit the criteria. 

    The discussion about drafting is limited to the primary list and Category A rookies of which we can have a total of 44 (currently at 39).

    I will need to look further, but I have a feeling the total list number is no longer set at 44 and is variable. So potentially another 5 senior players and 2 rookies, making a total of 47 including our 1 cat B.

    Edit - Just to clarify, you're quite likely right, just saying I will look into it more so I can be accurate going forward.

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    54 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    I don’t know how that’s possible without further delistings (unlikely) as we have 35 on the primary list and 4 rookies making 39 of a possible 44.

     

    44 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    The maximum list size is 47 which figure includes up to 3 Category B rookies. You don’t draft Category B rookies - you select them if they fit the criteria. 

    The discussion about drafting is limited to the primary list and Category A rookies of which we can have a total of 44 (currently at 39).

    Yep, I thought it had changed late in 2017, but the most recent rule book I can find is from just before then and states it as you have put it above pretty much.

    In saying that, there's still the opportunity to take Brown as a DFA. Should we take him, then Bennell as a rookie (as has been mentioned in media reports), it still leaves us with the mandatory 3 draft picks/spots.

     

    AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL LEAGUE
    RULES
    9 May 2019

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    So it looks like we’ve gone off Murray and are looking at Brown now. 

    In his draft year, Mentone Grammar’s Brown was bit of a rival to Brighton Grammar’s Jack Watts. I think he almost upstaged Watts when he represented the AGS against the APS so it would be somewhat ironic if Brown’s career ended in the red and blue.

    3 hours ago, TGR said:

    If we get this guy, what, will he get $250-280k?

    Watts would have stayed for what 470-500?  Howe for an extra 50k on his current contract I am told unreliably.

    I think the extra 220k gives you more flexibility.

    I just can't work out the overall strategy and big-picture here?  When you get rid of treasure and lure in trash, you have no choice but to gamble big (Bennell/Murray) and scrape the bottom of the barrel until your finger nails bend backwards.

    I can smell....a big rebuild in 12 months time and....

    Clarko or Ross Lyon - 6 year deal 2021/2/3/4/5/6.  Ross Lyon + EI = flag.

     

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     Can only assume we have a spare spot on the list and Casey need a forward 

     
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    1 hour ago, dworship said:

    AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL LEAGUE
    RULES
    9 May 2019

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    Yep, that's from the PDF from 2017 I read. Do you have a link to the 2019 you saw just for interest sake?

    People are talking like this bloke is a complete potato.

    He did manage 3 goal 20+ possession games in consecutive weeks/wins over Brisbane and North back in April. And he also managed a 4 goal 25 possession 9 mark game at Adelaide oval on a Friday night later in the year.

    He kicked 21 goals in 16 games which is serviceable. How many goals did T Mac manage in his miserable 16 games this year?

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    Don't mind it. At worst he is depth. At best he gives us another target. And won't cost much.

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    11 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    People are talking like this bloke is a complete potato.

    He did manage 3 goal 20+ possession games in consecutive weeks/wins over Brisbane and North back in April. And he also managed a 4 goal 25 possession 9 mark game at Adelaide oval on a Friday night later in the year.

    He kicked 21 goals in 16 games which is serviceable. How many goals did T Mac manage in his miserable 16 games this year?

    That's how most footy fans react on the internet. Every player is either a superstar or a complete dud, there is no in between apparently.

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    If he was 26 then i would be all for it. But he will be 30 next year and if we are just bringing him in for depth only then I'd like at Josh Walker who is still only 26 years of age, solid body and someone who has had an impact up forward and back.

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    19 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

    Yep, that's from the PDF from 2017 I read. Do you have a link to the 2019 you saw just for interest sake?

    Here you go - https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwj5gNO7mOflAhVu6XMBHRqIBdYQFjAAegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.afl.com.au%2Fstaticfile%2FAFL%20Tenant%2FAFL%2FFiles%2FAFL%20Rules%20effective%209%20May%202019.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2JyB5lezAUFkw0nV7coMUQ

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    When I haven’t seen a lot of a player I look to the reactions of his current club’s supporters about his delisting, and the majority of Essendon supporters are disappointed to have lost him, or at least surprised at his delisting.


    While I thought Sam Murray could be a good pick up, recruiting Mitch Brown seems like a no brainer given we currently lack an experienced back up tall forward.

    In short, I’d be happy with using the equivalent of pick 97 on this guy.

     

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    8 hours ago, dworship said:

    Here you go,

    View the 2019 Rules of Australian Football > Oops that was the Laws of the game

    Try this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwj5gNO7mOflAhVu6XMBHRqIBdYQFjAAegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.afl.com.au%2Fstaticfile%2FAFL%20Tenant%2FAFL%2FFiles%2FAFL%20Rules%20effective%209%20May%202019.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2JyB5lezAUFkw0nV7coMUQ

    Thanks mate! Yeah that rules of the game one was the one I kept finding at first.

    This is super handy, appreciate you tracking it down.

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    Kicked 21 goals form 16 games. Our leading goal kicker this year kick 22 in 22 games.

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    17 minutes ago, Brenno said:

    Kicked 21 goals form 16 games. Our leading goal kicker this year kick 22 in 22 games.

    Sure, but he kicked 21 in a team that played finals (albeit briefly). How many would he have kicked with the way our mids delivered the ball? 

    I'm not against picking him up to increase depth. But at nearly 30, how long are we realistically going to have him on the list? One year, max.

    Seems the perfect depth player for his position. Not going to get excited over it but it makes sense.

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    16 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

    Solid backup at the very least.

    Agree, take him Weeds well you never know what ur gonna get. he would want to show sustained improvement in 2020 otherwise we will struggle to kick goals. Take Brown for Insurance I reckon and he might just surprise

    We lost our number 1 KPF in Hogan, then lost the depth of Pedo and T Smith couldn't get on the park. We were essentially 3 tall forwards down last year and haven't addressed this hole yet.

    We've got depth down back now, so I expect Petty to be shifted forward more. We need that forward depth, so signing Brown makes sense. He's nothing to get excited about, but he fills a need for us in terms of tall forward depth and a proven goal kicking option.

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    You would get at least 2 years out of him and turns 30 at end of next season.

    There was something about Weid in rehab, from a hip cleanout and that could be a big factor with Brown, as he would be extra cover for a late start by Sam.

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    Not sure why all the angst towards Brown. He has proved over the last couple of years to be a good back up option for Essendon especially whilst Daniher has been missing. He would be more than capable of been a back up, put it this way his a better option than what Tim Smith would have been

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    19 hours ago, TGR said:

    If we get this guy, what, will he get $250-280k?

    Watts would have stayed for what 470-500?  Howe for an extra 50k on his current contract I am told unreliably.

    I think the extra 220k gives you more flexibility.

    I just can't work out the overall strategy and big-picture here?  When you get rid of treasure and lure in trash, you have no choice but to gamble big (Bennell/Murray) and scrape the bottom of the barrel until your finger nails bend backwards.

    I can smell....a big rebuild in 12 months time and....

    Clarko or Ross Lyon - 6 year deal 2021/2/3/4/5/6.  Ross Lyon + EI = flag.

     

    19 hours ago, brendan said:

    What’s this treasure we got rid of?

    Hi TGR. I'm still interested in your response to the above question. I, too, would like to know what you meant with the above. And, while you're at it, who's the trash? Or am I just wasting my time expecting you to substantiate your commentary?

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