Tom Green (Drafted by GWS Giants)

[PaulRB 6,363]

GWS may have to accept that, for the first time in their existence, they’re going to pay a fair price for the players they draft, like every other club (except GCS)...

Edited November 11, 2019 by PaulRB

[poita 3,902]

Either GWS come to us with a deal for pick 3 or we put in a bid for Green at that pick. It is just that simple.

You can never have enough quality midfielders, and our midfield depth is non-existent behind the big 4.

[BW511 2,669]

The thing I like about us potentially landing Green is that he will be playing senior footy almost immediately.

By all accounts, he could waltz past 2 of our 4 starting mids and we will be better for it. As alluded to in the Rd 1 starting 22 thread, we are still light on across the ground for high quality.

 

 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,507]

15 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If we bid on Green and GWS don't match then this would be a huge coup for us. Green is rated on level with Rowell and Anderson. The comparisons to Cripps is real. 

Drums are beating that it's looking more likely we will bid on Green and GWS really considering whether to match or not.

Unfortunately, I just can imagine why GWS wouldn't match the bid.  Even if it means having to match pick three, they get to claim the third best player in the draft two months after playing off in the Grand Final.  

 

 

[old55 23,573]

2 hours ago, BW511 said:

The thing I like about us potentially landing Green is that he will be playing senior footy almost immediately.

By all accounts, he could waltz past 2 of our 4 starting mids and we will be better for it. As alluded to in the Rd 1 starting 22 thread, we are still light on across the ground for high quality.

 

 

Que? I doubt he'll be better than any of Oliver, Brayshaw, Viney, Harmes in R1 2020. 

But as you say it gets thin after that so I think he would be a good addition to the list.

[BW511 2,669]

1 minute ago, Fifty-5 said:

Que? I doubt he'll be better than any of Oliver, Brayshaw, Viney, Harmes in R1 2020. 

But as you say it gets thin after that so I think he would be a good addition to the list.

If they all make it fit and firing to Rd 1, that's great, but we still need a rotation or two.

[Redleg 40,925]

53 minutes ago, BW511 said:

If they all make it fit and firing to Rd 1, that's great, but we still need a rotation or two.

And good mids can also play/rest forward. TBH, it is nearly, the more good mids the merrier.

[Males 578]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

And good mids can also play/rest forward. TBH, it is nearly, the more good mids the merrier.

Just as long as they’re not all inside mids. ?

[JakovichScissorKick 771]

We need this kid.  Hes so good and also would allow Oliver to rest forward at stages.

[Fat Tony 5,231]

Green looks to have a great left foot. Hope GWS pass him up and we take him. He looks a certainty to be at least a good AFL player. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Definitely nominate Green at pick 3. Force GWS to pay for this super talented youngster. 
If they don’t match? Dees will have picked up probably the best player in the draft as he certainly right up there with Anderson and Rowell.

[DeeSpencer 25,709]

12 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Unfortunately, I just can imagine why GWS wouldn't match the bid.  Even if it means having to match pick three, they get to claim the third best player in the draft two months after playing off in the Grand Final.  

 

 

Making the grand final is the reason they can afford to draft for need rather than best available, because Green will really have to be as good as Cripps to get a game over the next 3 years stuck behind Ward, Coniglio, Hopper, Taranto, Kelly, De Boer, Greene, Williams, Whitfield, Caldwell etc. And even then is he really making them better?

If they don't match they'd have to be confident that whoever they take at 6 is super highly rated as well and if that's Young then there's your Heath Shaw replacement within a year or 2 and a major addition to the side. If it's Jackson then all of a sudden they've got a young ruck to play for a decade alongside the best midfield in the league.

 

[Carn dees 108]

4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Making the grand final is the reason they can afford to draft for need rather than best available, because Green will really have to be as good as Cripps to get a game over the next 3 years stuck behind Ward, Coniglio, Hopper, Taranto, Kelly, De Boer, Greene, Williams, Whitfield, Caldwell etc. And even then is he really making them better?

If they don't match they'd have to be confident that whoever they take at 6 is super highly rated as well and if that's Young then there's your Heath Shaw replacement within a year or 2 and a major addition to the side. If it's Jackson then all of a sudden they've got a young ruck to play for a decade alongside the best midfield in the league.

 

also have to take into account that it's unlikely they will retain all those players.... First to second year players are cheaper... 

 

[BARASSI31 3]

GWS will likely go after Luke Jackson thats the word in WA they need a  Class Ruck for the future and have PLENTY OF mids Green is a very good player having seen him in Action reminds me of  Todd Viney with pace and a deadly kick has plenty grunt  and Attitude i think he is a better player than Rowell

 

[jnrmac 20,065]

On 10/19/2019 at 3:02 PM, Lord Travis said:

They’d be the opposite to what they are now. Trac would be a star and DeGoey would’ve showed patches.
 

We’ve got a proven track record of being poor at developing players. That, along with poor onfield leadership, have been our key issues for over a decade. Worst part is they don’t look to be resolved anytime soon either. We can have all the top draft picks in the world, but if we can’t develop then and surround them with leaders then it’s a waste. 

Oliver goes alright..

[TheoX 1,222]

On 11/12/2019 at 11:16 AM, poita said:

Either GWS come to us with a deal for pick 3 or we put in a bid for Green at that pick. It is just that simple.

You can never have enough quality midfielders, and our midfield depth is non-existent behind the big 4.

They simply don't have enough draft pick currency to get pick 3 off us. Pick 6 and their first next year which will be in the 20s most likely is nowhere near enough for the benefit they would get and the opportunity we would miss.

They had their chance during trade period to cough up a decent player to satisfy us, but refused to. If we think Green is the 3rd best player in the draft we will bid on him. Looks like he'd be in contention for no1 if he weren't an academy player.

[Redleg 40,925]

52 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Oliver goes alright..

Would you be happy with another?

[sydneydee 687]

I would be very happy with Green on our list. 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Oliver goes alright..

How about a Green Olive?

[Gorgoroth 12,951]

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

How about a Green Olive?

I prefer Kalamatas myself ?

[Sideshow Bob 2,386]

my random incoherent thoughts

name Green at 3 if GWS match take young. if not we get a beauty either way. at 8 take Jackson if he's still there if not I like the thought of Pickett scaring sh*t out of defenders.

with Bennell and maybe brown and maybe Murray as mature age additions to go with Tomlinson and Langdon - looks not bhed trade season

 

 

[rumpole 515]

I think it’s a virtual certainty that we will nominate Green and, in the unlikely event that GWS fails to match our bid, then so be it. We get a player considered in line with Rowell and Anderson.

 If GWS matches the bid, we move on ...

[Moonshadow 17,676]

11 minutes ago, rumpole said:

I think it’s a virtual certainty that we will nominate Green and, in the unlikely event that GWS fails to match our bid, then so be it. We get a player considered in line with Rowell and Anderson.

 If GWS matches the bid, we move on ...

And up... if GWS use up 6 for Green our 8 effectively moves up one spot

[DubDee 25,866]

So if green is rated as good as the top two why don’t GC consider him?

[Dees247 140]

34 minutes ago, DubDee said:

So if green is rated as good as the top two why don’t GC consider him?

Top 2 are best mates, which GC believe gives them a better chance at retaining them up there.

Edited November 13, 2019 by Dees247