4 minutes ago, AshleyH30 said:

Having a look at the tea, the molecules that cause the above effects are in low doses. If one of the molecules were to be extracted from the plant in a high dosage and then taken, then yes, it would be considered PE. It's the same with other tea regarding caffeine, which I've stated above. When a natural element is taken out of its source and artificially taken, is the main problem. Most PEDs come from natural sources such as Chamomile Tea.

There is also Chrysamthemum tea which is a close relative of Chamomile and same taste but can be much stronger depending on quality. I know first hand. Several years ago in China I drank some at a tea house and it made me feel like Hercules and all the stresses of the big bad ugly city wafted by like walking through a garden of roses. 

Edited September 25, 20195 yr by america de cali

2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

There is also Chrysamthemum tea which is a close relative of Chamomile and same taste but can be much stronger depending on quality. I know first hand. Several years ago in China I drank some at a tea house and it made me feel like Hercules and all the stresses of the big bad ugly city wafted by like walking through a garden of roses. 

Chrysamthemum combined with Peppermint is delightful.

2 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

 

Something tells me Moonshadow doesn’t approve of people who smoke weed  

 

Er, no, didn't say that at all. But you deliberately edited my post to make it look that way. Good on you for making stuff up!

Edited September 25, 20195 yr by Moonshadow

5 minutes ago, america de cali said:

There is also Chrysamthemum tea which is a close relative of Chamomile and same taste but can be much stronger depending on quality. I know first hand. Several years ago in China I drank some at a tea house and it made me feel like Hercules and all the stresses of the big bad ugly city wafted by like walking through a garden of roses. 

Most natural sources are allowed, the artificially extraction of molecules in high doses is what is banned. The tea may not be banned because the dosage of those molecules is not high enough during testing.

Edited September 25, 20195 yr by AshleyH30

13 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

And the biggest name in the game who suffered "mental issues" on the eve of the finals a couple years back.

Yes indeed. I would often see that “Biggest name in the game” out and about in the early morning consuming many different stimuli. He was never alone...

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Chamomile tea isn’t banned, THC is. Simples. 

I drink a chamomile tea every evening, might try smoking it tonight.

nah, just inject it ethan, instant hit

5 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

4 years for tampering with a test.

A fine and counselling for first positive test.

4 weeks off for second test and publicly named.

12 months suspension for third positive test.

It doesn’t matter that it’s legal in parts of the world, marrying your sister and marrying a 10 year old is also legal in other parts of the world. Doesn’t make it right.

It does matter if it’s legal in the first world. It’s relevant. 

The fact that players are tested for non PEDs is nonsense imo. 

Conceptually a player should not be suspended for smoking weed imo. If he tampered with his test to avoid getting done for smoking weed, it’s the system and his own stupid decision that causes 4 years. Not any cheating or performance enhancing drug taking 

3 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Er, no, didn't say that at all. But you deliberately edited my post to make it look that way. Good on you for making stuff up!

Oh come now, it was just your two separate posts on top of each other (I couldn’t quote both due to the different page-factor). 

Anyway I’m only joshin’. Happy 4:20! 

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

nah, just inject it ethan, instant hit

Cook it out and make some crack chamomile. Free base that [censored], man, and double the yield. 

2 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Cook it out and make some crack chamomile. Free base that [censored], man, and double the yield. 

and don't forget the battery acid. dag

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

and don't forget the battery acid. dag

I bumped into some guys who were doing a cook one day, they’d split a heap of ‘AA’ batteries for the acid and broken up dozens of fluorescent lights for whatever is inside them. Legalise it some people say, sheeeesh. 

I’ll stick to crack chamomile. 

I’ll stick to Shiraz 

On 9/25/2019 at 12:45 PM, AshleyH30 said:

I merely tried to explain why it was tested for. If the only way of having it was through a puff or two, I would imagine it would be a detriment as you can't control the dosage. But in some countries, this extract is used medically for pain, anxiety, ect. Which is why it is tested.

And tea, of any variant, only has Caffeine in it, which isn't considered PE unless in extremely high doses, but go right ahead and assume that people only use weed to get high.

Chill hashly

On 9/25/2019 at 4:48 PM, DubDee said:

It does matter if it’s legal in the first world. It’s relevant. 

The fact that players are tested for non PEDs is nonsense imo. 

Conceptually a player should not be suspended for smoking weed imo. If he tampered with his test to avoid getting done for smoking weed, it’s the system and his own stupid decision that causes 4 years. Not any cheating or performance enhancing drug taking 

But it could be PED on game day. If you were a plAyer who suffered from debilitating nerves and were playing say a night game, a small joint in tbe morning might help calm those nerves (or maybe help sleep).

On 9/14/2019 at 12:22 PM, Cards13 said:

The thing I come back to in all of these cases is where are the player managers?! Where is their duty of care to the players who pay them?

Maybe they do this but I’d have my players run through the rules relating to this every 6 months just so they are 100% clear. As I said maybe they do something similar already but they seem miss out on being brought up in these cases.

The players have the law lid out to them very clearly at induction.

Perhaps certain clubs confuse their players about what they take and when?

But these are professional athletes and do know better - some just try to get away with things.

On 9/17/2019 at 12:00 PM, Ethan Tremblay said:

Not being a game-day test they were only testing for PED’s and not prohibited drugs. I think it’s pretty clear what has happened. 

Very clear indeed - he substituted a specimen .... QED!

On 9/17/2019 at 9:17 PM, Darkhorse72 said:

During "on the couch"   Brownie, said once he couldn't go for about 4 hours. He went to the bar and drank a few while the offical sat next to him, till his bladder was ready. Apparently according to the rules they cannot provide advice or intervene in what the player does.  He said at Brisbane they alway had a club official/club doctor to make sure you follow the rules.  Maybe methcoke needs to implement that process. 

Maybe they do - according to their rules but not necessarily WADA ASADA.

Sorry Willie yours a disgrace let's stop feeling sorry for drug cheats want to smoke weed Willie that your choice, but don't play footy if you can't handle the pressure of high level sport quit.

We need a good small forward.

What pick would get him over the line???

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

We need a good small forward.

What pick would get him over the line???

High chance of that?

Appropriate sign placement. 

 

So he's provisionally suspended but he can still train at a footy club that's under the jurisdiction of the AFL???

Here we are again with another one from the WCE.

Just Coincidence right?

 

 

I feel for the young fella. 

1 minute ago, binman said:

I feel for the young fella. 

Very Christian attitude this afternoon binman!

Busted trying to take cannabis onto a flight...what a duffer!

https://www.afl.com.au/news/612030/banned-eagles-forward-charged-with-drug-possession