picket fence 18,188 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Well .... After reading all responses I would KEEP for another year Clearly injured still not done cleverer and creative as anyone we have GOOD LUCK JEFFY on your side son! Quote
Meggs 598 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 None of Stretch, JKH, ANB, Spargo or C Wags can win a one on one. At least when he’s switched on, Jeff can sneak up on them. God I hope the new fitness guru brings in people who know strength and conditioning and can teach tackling. We stink it up when there is heat. What a sad season we’ve had... 1 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Meggs said: None of Stretch, JKH, ANB, Spargo or C Wags can win a one on one. At least when he’s switched on, Jeff can sneak up on them. God I hope the new fitness guru brings in people who know strength and conditioning and can teach tackling. We stink it up when there is heat. What a sad season we’ve had... Would you not also include Jeffy in that list, Meggs? 1 Quote
Meggs 598 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Ha probably but we’ve seen him provide forward pressure and he’s demonstrably quicker than my fab 5 Quote
Bobby McKenzie 2,408 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Keep Jeffy. When fit is a great chaser and tackler and he knows where the goals are.Too good to chuck away. Quote
Little Goffy 14,970 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 I don't see the value - I'm not at all convinced he will deliver more than whichever turns out best of our little collection of 'junior' options. For example, neither of Lochkart or Dunkley have even had an AFL pre-season, let alone an interrupted one. I'd rather see a kid get chances than an unreliable (both form and injury) 30-year-old cling on. Plus, need space for Viney to play forward pocket. Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,831 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) If he is not getting a game now(in the last half of the year), what makes you think he will get a game next year? #thanks4thememoriesjeffy Edited August 25, 2019 by Win4theAges Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Cranky Franky said: I thought he was finished last year but 9 goals from 7 games means he was on track for a 30 goal season - even with a dodgy shoulder. He is still a mile ahead of any other small forward we have so I would give him a performance based one year deal. Lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater. None left anyway. All got drunk after our win over HFC last September 9 hours ago, loges said: As I've posted a couple of times before, took personal leave late 2017 and when came back was way out of form for a good year and a half. This year played some "ok" games. Borderline for me. South of the border for me. Quote
Coq au vin 755 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Demon Dude said: Garlett should be delisted imo. I think we have to get games into Lockhart, Bedford, Spargo and Chandler next year to find out who is worth persisting with, and who isn't. Lockhart useless Bedford useless Spargo useless Chandler useless Delist all four. Get some real players in. 1 Quote
1 red eye 1 blue eye 771 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Happy to leave this one with the FD. I have vivid memories of his tenacious dangerous effect, defenders chitting themselves. As already noted came back from that personal leave and has struggled since, that injury this year has clouded where he's at even further. His age shouldn't be a problem due to his build, his head space is where it's at. Quote
Coq au vin 755 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Delist: Both Wagners, ANB, Spargo, Lockhart, JKH, Bedford, Chandler, Baker, Bradtke, Kolodjashnij, Jordon, Keilty, Nietschke, Oscar Macdonald, Stretch, Vandenberg, Walker. All VFL level or lower level, except Vandenberg who is eternally injured. GET SOME ELITE PLAYERS into the team!!!! Edited August 25, 2019 by President Dee Trump 1 Quote
dpositive 1,838 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 11 hours ago, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said: Happy to leave this one with the FD. I have vivid memories of his tenacious dangerous effect, defenders chitting themselves. As already noted came back from that personal leave and has struggled since, that injury this year has clouded where he's at even further. His age shouldn't be a problem due to his build, his head space is where it's at. He's not the only one, head space of all our list needs serious consideration. 1 Quote
picket fence 18,188 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 13 hours ago, Meggs said: None of Stretch, JKH, ANB, Spargo or C Wags can win a one on one. At least when he’s switched on, Jeff can sneak up on them. God I hope the new fitness guru brings in people who know strength and conditioning and can teach tackling. We stink it up when there is heat. What a sad season we’ve had... Yep which is why all of the above need to be cleaned out Stretch?? I saw him calling out for the footy by himself 100 meters of his man on other side of ground, Delist. ANB // Momentum killer of the highest order Delist, Both Wagners?? Useless! Spargo? Useless Delsit all.JKH?? Showed something but been around for too long without breaking out. Keilty? No Tim Smith?? No Jeffy stays for easons articulated above! Quote
Go the Biff 3,474 Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 We've got one small forward of AFL quality on the list. Garlett. Go back to the pre-season (before 1st shoulder injury) and he was first picked for that role. Early in the season also, first picked for that role until shoulder injury 2. No one has since proved they are superior to Garlett in that role. Most of the options named in previous posts struggle to get a kick at both AFL and VFL level, let alone be a goal scoring threat. Lockhart is the best of the bunch but I'd be grooming him as Nev's successor. I get the whole forward pressure thing - Garlett may not tackle like Viney but he does, with his speed, apply pressure to opposition defenders. But if that's your main criteria then Jordie "Tackles" McKenzie would still be on the list The best form of pressure has always and will always be scoreboard pressure. Garlett's our only small forward who can regularly kick goals. We'd be mad to turf him out without a ready made replacement 2 Quote
drdrake 3,203 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 12 hours ago, President Dee Trump said: Lockhart useless Bedford useless Spargo useless Chandler useless Delist all four. Get some real players in. I actually thought Chandler was Ok v Sydney, he is the only small forward this year that actually laid inside 50m tackles. The rest, Lockhart needs to be moved to back pocket, back up/replacement for Nev Jetta. Spargo, small and slow, if you are small you need to be quick and hard as nails, ANB isn't a forward you would hate being a forward with him kicking the ball to you. Quote
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 15 hours ago, Lord Nev said: Gut feel is he might retire. But please can we stop with the incorrect statements, he leads our entire club for average tackles inside 50. Also happens to be our leading average goal kicker. Let's open both eyes and be grown up when talking about him hey. Not sure either of those stats are anything to celebrate this year, his tackle and goal averages were well down on his god years with the club (2015-17). He's only managed 7 & 11 games in the last 2 seasons, this year mainly because of injury, and he's just turned 30. Not many smaller forwards have gotten any better once they pass the 30 mark, Eddie Betts who's been he best small forward of the last 10 years saw his numbers drop off a fair bit when he past 30 (to the point where he was dropped and is talked about as trade bait). So I think you're on the money with the feeling he'll retire, but if not I think the club might take that decision out of his hands. Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Red and Blue realist said: Not sure either of those stats are anything to celebrate this year, his tackle and goal averages were well down on his god years with the club (2015-17). He's only managed 7 & 11 games in the last 2 seasons, this year mainly because of injury, and he's just turned 30. Not many smaller forwards have gotten any better once they pass the 30 mark, Eddie Betts who's been he best small forward of the last 10 years saw his numbers drop off a fair bit when he past 30 (to the point where he was dropped and is talked about as trade bait). So I think you're on the money with the feeling he'll retire, but if not I think the club might take that decision out of his hands. Oh yeah, not trying to say he's been sensational, more just trying to tell people to lighten up on the criticism as some seem to enjoy going way overboard with it when the reality is not as black and white. 1 Quote
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: Oh yeah, not trying to say he's been sensational, more just trying to tell people to lighten up on the criticism as some seem to enjoy going way overboard with it when the reality is not as black and white. Seems to be the way on here at the moment, either the criticism or the love for a player is way over the top. Not much rational thought put into any discussions. 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,555 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 I assume those that are in a hurry to get rid of Garlett are happy with C Wagner as our number 1 small forward in round 1 2020... Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 15 hours ago, President Dee Trump said: Delist: Both Wagners, ANB, Spargo, Lockhart, JKH, Bedford, Chandler, Baker, Bradtke, Kolodjashnij, Jordon, Keilty, Nietschke, Oscar Macdonald, Stretch, Vandenberg, Walker. All VFL level or lower level, except Vandenberg who is eternally injured. GET SOME ELITE PLAYERS into the team!!!! That's 18 players, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't mean all 18 at once. Even after free agency and trading, that would still likely leave us with about 12-14 picks at the draft. I'm not sure there's a lot of elite talent for the 6-8 picks we'd have in the 100s. 1 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, President Dee Trump said: Delist: Both Wagners, ANB, Spargo, Lockhart, JKH, Bedford, Chandler, Baker, Bradtke, Kolodjashnij, Jordon, Keilty, Nietschke, Oscar Macdonald, Stretch, Vandenberg, Walker. All VFL level or lower level, except Vandenberg who is eternally injured. GET SOME ELITE PLAYERS into the team!!!! Edited August 26, 2019 by Moonshadow 1 Quote
Redleg 42,180 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: I assume those that are in a hurry to get rid of Garlett are happy with C Wagner as our number 1 small forward in round 1 2020... I would hope we could trade someone in for that role, or maybe draft a kid who is physically ready. Edited August 26, 2019 by Redleg 2 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 21 hours ago, Moonshadow said: I like Shai Bolton as well. Think he will be ooc at end of this season He’s keen to come back to WA Moonie. 1 Quote
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