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  On 29/07/2019 at 14:06, Wadda We Sing said:

On SEN afternoon show Maher was saying that of all the clubs, Melbourne supporters never ring into complain, so he called for supporters to ring and a few did. Most were saying similar things about a soft underbelly and that gentleman type players only get recruited to the Demons.

Another guy rang in and said Pert had said nothing since he came to the club, except to find a better home base. Someone else said 666 had hurt us a lot, because we spent the last 2 years with 2 defenders charging in off the back of the square.

I just wish Ronald Dale could be heard before it is too late. He'd know what to say, do and expect - and could put it appropriately to those ears that have consistently failed the Members and supporters. 

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      On 29/07/2019 at 04:04, Sir Why You Little said:

    Gawn and May have shown leadership this year

    they are who i hope are our leaders next year

    Max (C)

    May (VC)

    ? May for VC? Based on what? 

    I am a May fan but he has played 6 games and turned up to pre-season out of shape.  Just let the bloke play i’d say.

    Max and Jack will be co-captains next year. 

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      On 29/07/2019 at 22:02, 3183 Dee said:

    Agreed - I chanced to speak to somebody on the weekend, who claimed to have a bit of contact within the club (not players). He hears that Viney and Jones don’t particularly get on and there are two camps within the squad. This is all hearsay, of course, but might go some way into explaining part of the dysfunction.

    It will be a brave decision to get rid of Viney as captain, but probably the correct one. He certainly flies the flag for our club, but that doesn’t automatically make captain material. Funnily enough, Jones is probably similar in that he was the only one willing to fly the flag during the Neeld times, so was the automatic choice.

    When you look at the likes of Cotchin, Pendles and Selwood, you see the attributes required. Other than Maxy, May and Lever, I don’t see anyone else banging down the door.

    If the two captains don’t get on then remove both. If the so called camps take sides then this is a sign of disunity infecting the players because of this. The whole concept of two captains is that both work together in harmony and unity. Both are useless captain material away. It will be a relief when both are demoted.

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    According to Demonland supporters the only problems we have are

    Administrators

    Coach

    Coaching assistants

    Playing list

    Co captains

    Recruitment

    Game plan.

    Lack of training facilities

    Giving away home matches 

    Apart than that everything is coming up roses.

     

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      On 30/07/2019 at 08:32, Sorry kids said:

    According to Demonland supporters the only problems we have are

    Administrators

    Coach

    Coaching assistants

    Playing list

    Co captains

    Recruitment

    Game plan.

    Lack of training facilities

    Giving away home matches 

    Apart than that everything is coming up roses.

     

    You forgot the maggots.

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      On 29/07/2019 at 04:58, Sir Why You Little said:

    Wow ? I didn’t expect that one!!

    In my opinion May is a leader without having a title of a VC it just doesn't sound right in my eyes, it is the way l see it. Being suspended and missing many games doesn't give him that right  in his first year and regardless of his experience he has to earn it.   Gawn is a person that l would feel comfortable as Captain as he leads from the front  on and off the field.  VC's come and go and are not all necessarily Captain material.

    l would like to see a Gawn, Oliver combination in the near future leading our club and that could be part of a new start and a refreshing one for  2020.  Who knows  what is awaiting us.

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      On 29/07/2019 at 14:06, Wadda We Sing said:

    On SEN afternoon show Maher was saying that of all the clubs, Melbourne supporters never ring into complain, so he called for supporters to ring and a few did.  

    Embarrassing declaring yourself a Melbourne supporter these days.
    And if I was honest it has been for most of my life.

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      On 30/07/2019 at 08:24, Demons11 said:

    ? May for VC? Based on what? 

    I am a May fan but he has played 6 games and turned up to pre-season out of shape.  Just let the bloke play i’d say.

    Max and Jack will be co-captains next year. 

    Based on his attitude on the field. 

    We need outside people to change this club. Jones and Viney are not the answer...

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      On 30/07/2019 at 23:26, Sir Why You Little said:

    Based on his attitude on the field. 

    We need outside people to change this club. Jones and Viney are not the answer...

    What a load of crap! May came from the worst team in the Comp and you’re telling me he is better equipped than Jones and Viney. 

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      On 31/07/2019 at 02:09, Demons11 said:

    What a load of crap! May came from the worst team in the Comp and you’re telling me he is better equipped than Jones and Viney. 

    I sure am, watching him closely this year

    You are happy to keep the same leaders after this years disgrace. 

    That i call a load of Crap ? 

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    Whoever is made Captain, there should be only one. No more co-captains for me. Captain, Vice Captain, Leadership Group. Surely that is enough for a club.

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    Viney is my favourite player but he is everything that is wrong with the City of Melbourne when it comes to promotion. He is Captain without having really earnt it. Nepotism is rife in Melbourne due to people being scared of what they don’t know and understand. 

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      On 30/07/2019 at 15:12, Fork 'em said:

    Embarrassing declaring yourself a Melbourne supporter these days.
    And if I was honest it has been for most of my life.

    At the start of the season whenever I would tell people I go for Melbourne, it was:

    "Oh you guys are going to have a great season"

    Now it's reverted back to the awkward silence before the, "I'm sorry".

    People pity us and it's pathetic.

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      On 01/08/2019 at 21:21, praha said:

    At the start of the season whenever I would tell people I go for Melbourne, it was:

    "Oh you guys are going to have a great season"

    Now it's reverted back to the awkward silence before the, "I'm sorry".

    People pity us and it's pathetic.

    People would ask me at the start of the season " How the Dees gonna go, should do well." etc, etc ....... Being confident for us.
    I'd reply "Listen, I'm a Melbourne supporter, anything could happen."
    And of course it did.
    I can never, ever, be confident with this mob.
    Well, confident they'll let me down ...... And usually big time.

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      On 01/08/2019 at 22:14, Fork 'em said:

    People would ask me at the start of the season " How the Dees gonna go, should do well." etc, etc ....... Being confident for us.
    I'd reply "Listen, I'm a Melbourne supporter, anything could happen."
    And of course it did.
    I can never, ever, be confident with this mob.

    Yep just when you think you are around the corner with a great season to look forward to, 

    they fall over the cliff. I have learned like you to be a little contained in my enthusiasm

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    You can feel that psyche among our supporters during games as well as we are often far more subdued than than the oppositions.
    Wary for the inevitable collapse.
    We saw some good footy last year, but also enough god awful cr@p to make me apprehensive for the coming year.

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      On 29/07/2019 at 22:27, Moonshadow said:

    Blah, blah, blah, blah.......

    Just saying it more times doesn't convince anyone

    irony

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      On 30/07/2019 at 14:20, nosoupforme said:

    would like to see a Gawn, Oliver combination in the near future leading our club

    Earlier this season, Jordan Lewis was asked, on the Inside Melbourne podcast, who were the potential leaders amongst the younger players. He said Oliver, but only if he wants to be.

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      On 29/07/2019 at 04:04, Sir Why You Little said:

    Gawn and May have shown leadership this year

    they are who i hope are our leaders next year

    Max (C)

    May (VC)

    Can’t see how May action this year qualify him as a leader

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      On 01/08/2019 at 20:57, Thehardtackler said:

    Viney is my favourite player but he is everything that is wrong with the City of Melbourne when it comes to promotion. He is Captain without having really earnt it. Nepotism is rife in Melbourne due to people being scared of what they don’t know and understand. 

    I think Max should be Captain next year and it really shows how devoid of leadership this club is but Viney has taken games and virtually won them by his sheer willpower. I am thinking principally of the game against West Coast in Perth 2 yrs ago where he had something like 14 possessions in the last quarter and was the reason we won (by a point).

    And the time he ran straight at the ball against adelaide and crashed into Alex Georgiou and the Adelaide player and came out with the ball.

    He has the ability to inspire but I think injuries have taken away a lot of his impact.

     

     

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    Let us say that, when available and  in form, we might look to Nathan Jones, Tom McDonald, Max Gawn, Jack Viney, Jake Lever and Stephen May as conveivable captains, and Jetta, Hibberd, Brayshaw and Lewis as other leaders.

    Unfortunately only one of those players has had an actually good season. Most have had a terrible time through career-worst form or just plain old injury mess. Jones, Brayshaw and Viney could all be argued to be in that twilight zone where they keep plugging along being ok, but not much resembling what they'd want to be and are capable of.

    What I find interesting is that all of those nine unfulfilled players have had poor years for mostly individual reasons of injury, age and form.

    2019 Demons - a test case of what happens to a football club when 90% of its leaders are significantly under their best.

     

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      On 30/07/2019 at 08:25, america de cali said:

    If the two captains don’t get on then remove both. If the so called camps take sides then this is a sign of disunity infecting the players because of this. The whole concept of two captains is that both work together in harmony and unity. Both are useless captain material away. It will be a relief when both are demoted.

    I don't know anything about whether there are rifts or disunity, but I do know one golden rule ... the inmates do not run the asylum. If the "two captains" idea is not working, junk it.

     

      On 01/08/2019 at 14:15, Dame Gaga said:

    Whoever is made Captain, there should be only one. No more co-captains for me. Captain, Vice Captain, Leadership Group. Surely that is enough for a club.

    Amen!

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