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23 minutes ago, xiss said:

I hope so, he's an unbelievable talent. If Spargo was worth pick 20 something I'd have Pickett top 5 easily

Don't think I was serious, but I think many are going to eat their words about Spargo, many are writing him off just because of his height, and having the second year blues, which many many other good footballers have had, he had a very good first season

7 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

Don't think I was serious, but I think many are going to eat their words about Spargo, many are writing him off just because of his height, and having the second year blues, which many many other good footballers have had, he had a very good first season

I hope so. He's a very smart player

I didn't mean to bag Spargo. Just they're both midgets but Pickett's tools are unbelievable in comparison with his pace, leap and tackling. Potentially Cyril Rioli-esqe

 
12 hours ago, xiss said:

I hope so, he's an unbelievable talent. If Spargo was worth pick 20 something I'd have Pickett top 5 easily

Spargo wasn't worth pick 20


Pickett is pick 30-50 range. Unless we gain later picks, he’s not worth considering with what we have. 

3 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

wasnt worth 29 either

I think we overrate second round draft picks. Spargo stands up easily at pick 29. looking at the last few years with a sample around that pick, who is better around pick 29 ? If he is better than half this lot, i'd suggest he was definitely worth it.

 

2015      
       
Pick 28 Luke Partington West Coast
Pick 29 Alex Morgan Essendon
Pick 30 Mason Redman Essendon
       
2016      
       
       
Pick 28 Patrick Lipinski Western Bulldogs
Pick 29 Shai Bolton Richmond
Pick 30 Sam McLarty Collingwood
       
       
2017      
       
Pick 28 Sam Taylor Greater Western Sydney
Pick 29 Charlie Spargo Melbourne
Pick 30 Tom De Koning Carlton
       
2018      
       
Pick 28 Xavier O'Neill West Coast
Pick 29 Will Kelly Collingwood
Pick 30 William Hamill Adelaide
 
6 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

I think we overrate second round draft picks. Spargo stands up easily at pick 29. looking at the last few years with a sample around that pick, who is better around pick 29 ? If he is better than half this lot, i'd suggest he was definitely worth it.

 

2015      
       
Pick 28 Luke Partington West Coast
Pick 29 Alex Morgan Essendon
Pick 30 Mason Redman Essendon
       
2016      
       
       
Pick 28 Patrick Lipinski Western Bulldogs
Pick 29 Shai Bolton Richmond
Pick 30 Sam McLarty Collingwood
       
       
2017      
       
Pick 28 Sam Taylor Greater Western Sydney
Pick 29 Charlie Spargo Melbourne
Pick 30 Tom De Koning Carlton
       
2018      
       
Pick 28 Xavier O'Neill West Coast
Pick 29 Will Kelly Collingwood
Pick 30 William Hamill Adelaide

That's a pretty good comment. 


1 minute ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

 

 

Interesting as Twomey also said on podcast today that Pickett is likely a third round pick, from pick 35 onwards. Wonder why he’s giving out mixed messages?

7 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Pickett is pick 30-50 range. Unless we gain later picks, he’s not worth considering with what we have. 

Will more than likely go 15 to 25 now.  Was mis-rated early on and now getting some serious attention.

He is worth every bit of pick 8 if we somehow miss Stephens and Kemp

There are no other stand outs beyond those two and Young that offer the X factor/goal kicking potential of Kozzie.

Edited by Rusty Nails

We’re taking about the same player right? The 170cm guy who kicks one goal every second match? What attributes does he have that have shot him up the draft boards suddenly?

He’s not a big goal scorer - averaged 0.5 goals a game at senior SAFL level.

He’s got a good leap - but he needs to have a good leap to even just be competitive at 170cms.

He’s quick, but not elite quick - not in top 20 tested.

He has poor-average endurance - doesn’t find much ball, averaged 10 touches.

His best attribute is he provides good defensive pressure around packs in the forward line.

Statistically he’s identical to Charlie Spargo. IMO the best outcome for his career would be an in form Jeff Garlett. Don’t get me wrong, he could be a handy little small forward and have a decent career, but at pick 8 you can pick up much better than that. It would be negligent for the club to draft him at pick 8. 


22 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

We’re taking about the same player right? The 170cm guy who kicks one goal every second match? What attributes does he have that have shot him up the draft boards suddenly?

He’s not a big goal scorer - averaged 0.5 goals a game at senior SAFL level.

He’s got a good leap - but he needs to have a good leap to even just be competitive at 170cms.

He’s quick, but not elite quick - not in top 20 tested.

He has poor-average endurance - doesn’t find much ball, averaged 10 touches.

His best attribute is he provides good defensive pressure around packs in the forward line.

Statistically he’s identical to Charlie Spargo. IMO the best outcome for his career would be an in form Jeff Garlett. Don’t get me wrong, he could be a handy little small forward and have a decent career, but at pick 8 you can pick up much better than that. It would be negligent for the club to draft him at pick 8. 

I think those stats are a little unfair. He kicked 14 goals in 7 games at SANFL reserves level - so already up 1 level from his peers. 

And averaged 17 disposals at Colts level last year. 

As with a lot of kids he's had to split time between school footy, SANFL reserves, SANFL seniors and the National champs. 

14 disposals and 3 tackles at the Champs from 3 games - even with only 2 goals - shows he's a guy who gets involved in games. The comparison I'd make for him would be Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti. 

I do agree he's not one I'd have in the frame at pick 8 but with a pick from 15-25 I'd have a good look.

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Compared to Cyril Rioli and also is a Cousin to our own Nev Jetta which should squash any go-home factor fears.

If we split for pick 17, we must pull the trigger.

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On 7/21/2019 at 4:53 PM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

he's very, very small

He could share clothes with Chas Spargo?

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2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

We’re taking about the same player right? The 170cm guy who kicks one goal every second match? What attributes does he have that have shot him up the draft boards suddenly?

He’s not a big goal scorer - averaged 0.5 goals a game at senior SAFL level.

He’s got a good leap - but he needs to have a good leap to even just be competitive at 170cms.

He’s quick, but not elite quick - not in top 20 tested.

He has poor-average endurance - doesn’t find much ball, averaged 10 touches.

His best attribute is he provides good defensive pressure around packs in the forward line.

Statistically he’s identical to Charlie Spargo. IMO the best outcome for his career would be an in form Jeff Garlett. Don’t get me wrong, he could be a handy little small forward and have a decent career, but at pick 8 you can pick up much better than that. It would be negligent for the club to draft him at pick 8. 

Your complaining about a small forward being small????

 

Has a few tricks up his sleeve, and can jag a goal, but he isn't close to being Top 10 material and he'll be gone by the time our last pick rolls around.

Won't be a factor for us.


Cal Twomey said he wouldn't be surprised if we split pick 8 for two picks in the teen to really zero in and select Pickett.

On 11/6/2019 at 7:37 AM, demonstone said:

Spargo was pick 29, not 20.

Astounding!!! Pick 29 ??? really astounding

14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Cal Twomey said he wouldn't be surprised if we split pick 8 for two picks in the teen to really zero in and select Pickett.

Based on what I have seen on his highlights reel and the fact he is related to Byron gives me goosebumps. i, Too would select him over Weightman. The other interesting thing about the Hun article this morning was that Byron has two sons around the 12/13 mark. Hey Dazzle, have you any info on these two? sons of Byron?

PF

 
15 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Cal Twomey said he wouldn't be surprised if we split pick 8 for two picks in the teen to really zero in and select Pickett.

That would probably mean losing the bloke we want at 8. Also Pickett could go before the 2nd pick we get, IF we actually wanted him.

That is what they would have to weigh up.

19 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

We’re taking about the same player right? The 170cm guy who kicks one goal every second match? What attributes does he have that have shot him up the draft boards suddenly?

He’s not a big goal scorer - averaged 0.5 goals a game at senior SAFL level.

He’s got a good leap - but he needs to have a good leap to even just be competitive at 170cms.

He’s quick, but not elite quick - not in top 20 tested.

He has poor-average endurance - doesn’t find much ball, averaged 10 touches.

His best attribute is he provides good defensive pressure around packs in the forward line.

Statistically he’s identical to Charlie Spargo. IMO the best outcome for his career would be an in form Jeff Garlett. Don’t get me wrong, he could be a handy little small forward and have a decent career, but at pick 8 you can pick up much better than that. It would be negligent for the club to draft him at pick 8. 

Not many players have an immediate impact when they first step up to a senior level of footy.

Kicked 6 in one match at reserve level...

Doesn't find much ball? ..quality small forward don't need to find alot of it and tend not to a la Jeffy, Cyril etc to make a quality impact.  How often have we heard the phrase "give me 15 quality touches vs 30 that are mostly rubbish or result in mostly turnovers anyday".

You can't compare him to anyone at AFL level at this point (statistically) ...he hasn't played.  Rediculous comparison.

What attributes does he have well let me name a few...

> Has a great leap ...equal 9th in the running jump at combine.  Can take an awesome specky and also alows him to keep the ball alive in the air at times (eg;  tapping a high bouncing ball or one off a pack to advantage) or defend from behind if needed.

> Doesn't lose his feet easily

> Fierce tackler

> Great follow up second efforts including repeat tackles

> knows where the goals are (sixth sense off one or two steps) and clever at reading / waiting off the ball and crumbing.

> Bides his time just outside the main scrum sweating on the spillage or loose ball without getting sucked into the contest.

If he already has all this at his tender age....imagine how much further upside there is with a few pre-seasons and experience at the highest level.

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