fired up 77 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 It seems Goody and his assistants have escaped much needed criticism this season by the press. No one from the club has applied any pressure to the coaching or player group. just a weak club that is happy just to survive and be irrelevant members and supporters won’t to see some passion. 1 Quote
FireInTheBennelly 4,104 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 I doubt there will be any acid from here in 2019. If you recall, the blowtorch started to go on us fairly early on in the season, when we were still a good chance to turn it around and get through to finals. It put additional pressure on us to start winning, and in true Melbourne fashion we couldn't handle it. Now we're no hope the media couldn't care less about Melbourne. To them we are where we belong. If anything, they'll be giving themselves pats on the back for helping keep us down. Quote
dl4e 5,851 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 If we lose to Carlton I think it will start. 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,552 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Gerard and Slobbo have promised to open up AFL 360 on Monday with a Melbourne lashing if we get done tomoz. Make no mistake, this year has been an absolute disgrace. There has to be casualties at the end of the year. And our head coach must surely be put on severe notice if we win just 0-2 games for the rest of the year. I keep defending our off season surgeries but apparently West Coast had 14 themselves and are now flying and probably flag favourites. 3 Quote
Deesprate 1,324 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: Gerard and Slobbo have promised to open up AFL 360 on Monday with a Melbourne lashing if we get done tomoz. Make no mistake, this year has been an absolute disgrace. There has to be casualties at the end of the year. And our head coach must surely be put on severe notice if we win just 0-2 games for the rest of the year. I keep defending our off season surgeries but apparently West Coast had 14 themselves and are now flying and probably flag favourites. Yep that what good clubs do. They don’t make excuses. 1 Quote
Josh 1,420 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 I went to use this excuse last week when quizzed on our poor season but truth is that accounted for the first 5 or 6 rounds not now We miss Vandenberg and Melksham, where's the mongrel Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) Losing to a team coached by Dana Carvey would be the final straw. Edited July 6, 2019 by Ethan Tremblay 5 Quote
rufus 1,162 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Seeds were sown with last year's Prelim effort. Apparently that kind of insipid effort is acceptable to most fans of this club. There is no expectation and therefore things will never change. You can see how today's game will go. Demons players will go in thinking they are so much better than Blues players that it's going to be an easy outing...and will refuse to tackle or compete with defensive intensity. We'll fall behind and the game will be decided by whether Goodwin can somehow extract some pride out of the group and get them to play like competitive grown ups in the 2nd half. 1 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,721 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) The blowtorch will come when Collingwood play better and there are no big club woes for click bait. All other Vic clubs are up and about; only the Saints and Demons left to create dramatic headlines. Then the media will not hold back: soft, unreliable, inconsistent, awful skills, poor game plan etc etc. Even if we don't win many more games, I hope we play well enough for the blowtorch to not be too scathing. I don't want our club to be 'burned' in the media as we don't need the negative exposure. It feeds on itself then extends to members, fans, sponsors, TV etc. Prefer we go under the radar externally but Pert and Bartlett turn up the heat internally. I have little doubt they already have. In one interview Pert said the mid year changes were a whole of club project and that 'Mahoney will own the outcomes'. The spotlight is shining squarely on the whole football department, as it should. Patience - we will hear more in 4-6 weeks when assistant coaches need to be told if they are being retained. Edited July 6, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero 1 Quote
Wrecker45 3,381 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 It will rightly be shone on Melbourne if we get a preseason into our players, have a reasonable run with injuries and don’t get into the pointy end of the season. Until then what is the point? 5 Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Oh, haven't you heard? Other clubs have injuries are are playing poorly too. So we're not on our lonesome there. And with all those preseason surgeries, OF COURSE we were underdone and out of form! So, all perfectly understandable. Quote
—coach— 3,496 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: The blowtorch will come when Collingwood play better and there are no big club woes for click bait. All other Vic clubs are up and about; only the Saints and Demons left to create dramatic headlines. Then the media will not hold back: soft, unreliable, inconsistent, awful skills, poor game plan etc etc. Even if we don't win many more games, I hope we play well enough for the blowtorch to not be too scathing. I don't want our club to be 'burned' in the media as we don't need the negative exposure. It feeds on itself then extends to members, fans, sponsors, TV etc. Prefer we go under the radar externally but Pert and Bartlett turn up the heat internally. I have little doubt they already have. In one interview Pert said the mid year changes were a whole of club project and that 'Mahoney will own the outcomes'. The spotlight is shining squarely on the whole football department, as it should. Patience - we will hear more in 4-6 weeks when assistant coaches need to be told if they are being retained. Almost word for word the 5 words I used to describe MFC in my member survey! 2 Quote
praha 11,267 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said: It will rightly be shone on Melbourne if we get a preseason into our players, have a reasonable run with injuries and don’t get into the pointy end of the season. Until then what is the point? Please stop with this. No amount of injuries or surgeries turns a top 4 team into a potentially bottom 2 team. Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) You know the media have really had it when they start saying "what does this club stand for???". Which is completely meaningless and is code for "they're hopeless and I've given up on them" They may start saying it about Freo this week. We've avoided it so far this year. Slobbo and Jon Faine Twately may unleash it if we lose. Edited July 6, 2019 by Mazer Rackham Quote
Wrecker45 3,381 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, praha said: Please stop with this. No amount of injuries or surgeries turns a top 4 team into a potentially bottom 2 team. Re-read what you just posted. It makes no sense at all. Great for bravado little in logic. 1 Quote
praha 11,267 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Wrecker45 said: Re-read what you just posted. It makes no sense at all. Great for bravado little in logic. It makes perfect sense. Either you're illiterate or you can't face reality. Quote
ProperDee 1,698 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Yawn. Same [censored], different author. Surely we wrote this season off weeks ago. Any “passion” died then. 2019, a true “Clayton’s” season. Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: Gerard and Slobbo have promised to open up AFL 360 on Monday with a Melbourne lashing if we get done tomoz. Make no mistake, this year has been an absolute disgrace. There has to be casualties at the end of the year. And our head coach must surely be put on severe notice if we win just 0-2 games for the rest of the year. I keep defending our off season surgeries but apparently West Coast had 14 themselves and are now flying and probably flag favourites. Actually later in the show they said that if Collingwood lose the opening blowtorch would be on them, they'd temporarily forgotten that there is a bigger vic club in a bit of strife atm. And you'd expect that given the ratings bonanza addressing the wobbles. Edited July 6, 2019 by John Demonic Quote
Bitter but optimistic 22,289 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Josh said: I went to use this excuse last week when quizzed on our poor season but truth is that accounted for the first 5 or 6 rounds not now We miss Vandenberg and Melksham, where's the mongrel Hopefully the big mongrel will be playing today Josh! Quote
Wrecker45 3,381 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, praha said: It makes perfect sense. Either you're illiterate or you can't face reality. Look in the mirror. No matter how good a club list or culture is, there becomes a point, where if you have too many players miss a pre-season and then have a heavy injury toll during the middle of the season it will stymie any chance of catching back up. Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said: Look in the mirror. No matter how good a club list or culture is, there becomes a point, where if you have too many players miss a pre-season and then have a heavy injury toll during the middle of the season it will stymie any chance of catching back up. What heavy injury toll or missed pre-season resulted in the preliminary final result? Or our inability to come close to matching Collingwoods spread last year? Our game plan is outdated. Edited July 6, 2019 by John Demonic 1 Quote
binman 44,824 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Deesprate said: Yep that what good clubs do. They don’t make excuses. Good clubs don't go into crisis mode. 1 1 Quote
binman 44,824 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, John Demonic said: What heavy injury toll or missed pre-season resulted in the preliminary final result? Or our inability to come close to matching Collingwoods spread last year? Our game plan is outdated. Then why is Collingwood being beaten by inferior teams? Should their magical game plan not protect them from the impact of injuries? 1 Quote
trout 385 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Listening to a bit of SEN Crunch Time yesterday, Danny Frawley mentioned Melbourne and why nobody was talking about them. Derm made some comment about nobody cares and Huddo quickly said we will get back to them later, I didn’t here the rest so not sure if they did, but wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t. Because we are a small club and our coach has a long contract so there is is no blood about to be spilt. Quote
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