It is an odd year.

Get Brad Scott on the phone 

4 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

We've all heard about "coach killing" games... well we just saw a "fan killing" game.

There was not one positive from that game

Baker?

We were never going to win this one it doesn't matter which way you slice it. Not going to analyse it in great detail there is no need. As mentioned above we are carrying way too many players not up to this standard and that is just fact. 

Coaching was not good today so th aat plays a part but really this is just a culmination of crap.

Max Gawn can hold his head up as he never stopped working but there's a bit of daylight after that. Viney worked his way into it and Harmes toiled as usual but we just don't have much to hang the hat on. If we thought ball use was bad out of the back half it seems it completely goes to water without Salem..

Hore continues to show why he's here, besides the odd gaff here and there. The Wagners while honest goers won't win us a flag. Spargo selection was funny. Usually I find a way to wrap up my post game post nicely but i think I'm just gonna leave it mid sentence 

Just now, Rusty Nails said:

Baker?

Yep. Gawn was solid and Marty Hore had a crack.

Thats about it.

2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

From a Prelim  to the worst team in the comp. From the highest scoring team to the lowest.  All in one preseason.

A pathetic club.

Goodwin has undone all the good work put in during the Roos years. We are close to square one as far as I'm concerned. In terms of game style and list.

It was a good fight after half time.. we are clearly undermanned and they are a class above.. it could have been 100 points. Some perspective needed.

Year is done, so positives with Baker, Hore and Lockhart. Thought Fritch and Petracca played well.

Just remember that our 2nd goal was kicked at the 17 minute mark of the 3rd Quarter 

Critical to remember this....

5 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Fair dinkum -- if he comes out and says what a great last half / quarter etc we had, showed signs etc then I may well return my membership and not renew it until we get a coach with balls.

"our brand" blah blah blah  .... unfortunately our brand is weak uncontested footy with not even the flair we occasionally showed last year to make up for abysmal inability to convert I 50s.

What he says to the media and what he says behind closed doors r two different things. He’s not Neeld ffs.

Im surprised no one is looking towards Chaplin. He’s the one I have concerns about. I’d love Rawlings back coaching.

You know it’s bad when you and your missus are with your 6 year old daughter and the missus keeps ducking off the get more beers for you...must’ve heard the teeth grinding.

Edited May 26, 20195 yr by Beetle

3 minutes ago, bringbackthebiff said:

Sadly they play the kind of football that I dream about my team playing. Too good all over the ground and their skill makes us look like a vfl team

Which is pretty well what we are. Sure, only half the team, but when half the players are VFL standard, then it drags the whole team down: you can't keep possession, systems fall apart and structures break down, there's no real synchronicity between the players and finally, there's no real consistency across team selection/player position etc.

We're not even going to start to be competitive until we get at least a few players back (imagine even just Salem, Hibberd and Melksham into that team), but more importantly, we start to get some consistency over a long period in the team we put on the park.

We need the likes of Brayshaw and Petracca to be at a much higher level than they are. They are meant to be our blue chip stocks. Not our cheese and onion chip stocks.

2 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Baker?

sorry.... but I don't rate a 16 possession game as a great positive. Good for him.

Gawn... how many hit outs to advantage ?

8 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Get Brad Scott on the phone 

Hell no. 

I would rather coach the team. 

1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

sorry.... but I don't rate a 16 possession game as a great positive. Good for him.

Gawn... how many hit outs to advantage ?

He has played all of 2 games.

 

Has some run, some flair and can kick a goal. Was better than most today.

2 minutes ago, P-man said:

We need the likes of Brayshaw and Petracca to be at a much higher level than they are. They are meant to be our blue chip stocks. Not our cheese and onion chip stocks.

Id add Viney to that as well.

7 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

We are hopeless. 

I take nothing out of the last quarter especially when gws were already on the plane home. 

When the heat was on our cupboard was bare. 

The cupboard is bare. That is caused by player development, communication flaws, intentional stubbornness, incorrect match between games styles/strategies and selections-recruitment to task-poor club rules onfield. The lack of two-way running and the failed use of ground space (if only to retain possession in a team wide reset) was highlighted for three quarters and in the last quarter, proved to be an attribute that the players CAN come up with as the opposition had two players on the bench. Crunch time has arrived.

1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I don't rate a 16 possession game as a great positive

16 possessions, 5 marks and 2 goals from a kid playing his second game is phenomenal, whether you rate it or not.

6 players with under 15 games out there today... Want to know why this team looks different from last year? Because it is a completely different line up mainly due to injury. 

We really are playing like a team with next to no chemistry again which makes sense when a third of your team are new inexperienced faces. 

Looks like this season might be done and dusted 

Gawn, Hore, Baker were the positives for me today

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

16 possessions, 5 marks and 2 goals from a kid playing his second game is phenomenal, whether you rate it or not.

each to his own but have seen it too many time times before..

Used to hang our hats on individual cameos for 30 odd years.. wearing very thin these days

Edited May 26, 20195 yr by Diamond_Jim

When half your side isn't up to AFL standard it's always going to be a slog. 

Without any skill from half back or run in the middle it was always going to be a lot of bombing down the line, reset, hope to create chances.

Our backline was so slow and undermanned we couldn't open the game up. Just wasn't going to happen until the Giants pressure dropped off.

The mental weakness in the first half to give away dumb free kicks and not just hang in and create a few goals was really poor, but physically there wasn't much to be done.

The game opened up in the 3rd quarter and the Giants walked in goals whilst we battled away to add a few. Then in the last they dropped off and the game was at the standard (below average AFL) where many of our players are at.

Just now, GCDee said:

6 players with under 15 games out there today... Want to know why this team looks different from last year? Because it is a completely different line up mainly due to injury. 

We really are playing like a team with next to no chemistry again which makes sense when a third of your team are new inexperienced faces. 

Looks like this season might be done and dusted 

No might about it. Its done.

19 minutes ago, stranga said:

Goodwin has undone all the good work put in during the Roos years. We are close to square one as far as I'm concerned. In terms of game style and list.

He has till Rnd 6 next season to prove otherwise Stranga.  His performances at selection, positional set ups and match day game style too hit and miss so far.

Too often loses the game pre match or with the starting line ups.  Too easily out coached and often coaches us out of any chance of winning from the get go of match.  Has not shown he has what it takes so far.  Will need a stellar 2nd half once the better players return to turn that impression around for mine.

Edited May 26, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

The selection of Spargo was mind blowing.

I like the guy but his skills this year have been abysmal.