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Once May, Lever and Hibberd return some defenders may get squeezed out.  If it came to a choice between Frost or Hore, which would you choose?

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16 minutes ago, one_demon said:

Once May, Lever and Hibberd return some defenders may get squeezed out.  If it came to a choice between Frost or Hore, which would you choose?

They are different players so difficult to compare.

My thoughts (based on this week's selected team) May and Lever will force two of Frost, Oscar or Petty out otherwise there are too many talls.  Would like to see Petty have more games.  Hibberd will force one of the Wagner's out.  Hore will probably stay until we get Jetta back.  Even then he may be in front of the other Wagner. 

Edited by Lucifer's Hero

We could actually keep both. One would start on the bench and come on for backline rotations. Oscar likely forced out by May and Lever. Both Wagners out. Petty may force Frost out longer term, but Frost is better in the immediate future. Below is how I'd picture the backline and bench looking in an ideal injury and form situation.

FB: Jetta May Hore
HB: Hibberd Lever Salem

Bench: Back (Frost) Mid Mid Fwd

 
35 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

We could actually keep both. One would start on the bench and come on for backline rotations. Oscar likely forced out by May and Lever. Both Wagners out. Petty may force Frost out longer term, but Frost is better in the immediate future. Below is how I'd picture the backline and bench looking in an ideal injury and form situation.

FB: Jetta May Hore
HB: Hibberd Lever Salem

Bench: Back (Frost) Mid Mid Fwd

Well that just took a turn. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but Nev probably has better prospects than what you've suggested.


 
2 hours ago, one_demon said:

Once May, Lever and Hibberd return some defenders may get squeezed out.  If it came to a choice between Frost or Hore, which would you choose?

I'll preface this by saying i would not be looking to release either right now but given the OP's question...

Hore by a fair way at this point.

This is not a blight on Frosty either who is having a reasonably good year so far, albeit still the occasional brain fade.  Frosty with 78 games no longer a rookie.  To be playing at the level Hore is already playing at, as a rookie with only 7 matches behind him, is potential / budding champion material and puts Hore a notch or two above Frosty for mine.

FWIW this also shows out statistically.  In the weighted comparative averages i keep, Hore is presently ranked 5th overall and Frosty 17th.  Defenders might make the top 5 once every three to four weeks or a well rounded veteran might make the top 5 or 10 over an entire season.  But for a rookie defender to be sitting that high is astonishing.

Frosty's weighted score of 2.172 so far this season is also 5% higher than his 2018 average of 2.078 so not too shabby.  Hore currently sitting on 2.982  To put that in some perspective the highest ranked defender for the entire 2018 season was Lewis at 3.626 who is presently sitting on 2.225

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2 hours ago, one_demon said:

Once May, Lever and Hibberd return some defenders may get squeezed out.  If it came to a choice between Frost or Hore, which would you choose?

I think Hore can play small.    Jetta out,  for a while yet.

I think the choice is between Frost and OMc ?

 

FB/ Hore, May, Lever

HB/ Wagner, Frost, Hibbo

CL/ Salem, Oli, Stretch


2 hours ago, one_demon said:

OMac wasn't one of the choices

Well he should be

It's a good problem to have.

I would hope that we have our best 22 or close to it for the last 4 weeks of the year.

It's so even this year we may sneak into 7th or 8th.

We have a spot for both of them. Both still poor one on one.. Frost is quick and keeps body contact, Hore reads it well in flight and kicks well. 

Hore or Frost ?   IMO both have had a good season so far and can  hold their heads up high. There is   room for the two.  Marty can play deep and  Hback  and has the smarts  can hold his own on smalls and talls. Frosty is an underrated player with speed and  his skills are good at times. However sometimes he over uses the ball.

With many of our better players coming back from injury soon enough  there is room for Marty and Frosty. They have worked hard for their spots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, one_demon said:

Once May, Lever and Hibberd return some defenders may get squeezed out.  If it came to a choice between Frost or Hore, which would you choose?

Someone else - both are too valuable to the Dees to relegate down. There are others that better fit that bill. 

14 minutes ago, nosoupforme said:

However sometimes he over uses the ball.

He is learning - overuse of the ball was a problem, now it is less frequent and there is also a newer touch of finishing the possession off well. Frost, with a stronger backline team, will be awesome. So will Hore. 

3 hours ago, DV8 said:

FB/ Hore, May, Lever
 

Or she may stay with her, we just don't know.

36 minutes ago, one_demon said:

You're welcome to start your own thread about OMac

Good suggestion. I feel like it’s about time he is scrutinised, seems like he always flys under the radar...

Nether should miss out. Wagners, and Oscar should make room.


7 minutes ago, red&blue1982 said:

Nether should miss out. Wagners, and Oscar should make room.

Agree

Frost, despite some clangers has been great and is just about a lock for best 22

Hore has shown plenty of promise also and will remain in contention with a best 22 team

OMac is holding his spot well now, but probably is out for May in a best 22 scenario and Lever pushes out Wagner with Jetta and Salem making the 6

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4 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Agree

Frost, despite some clangers has been great and is just about a lock for best 22

Hore has shown plenty of promise also and will remain in contention with a best 22 team

OMac is holding his spot well now, but probably is out for May in a best 22 scenario and Lever pushes out Wagner with Betts and Salem making the 6

I feel Frost's clangers get commented on too much without mention of his positives. He's tall, fast, strong, quite aggressive at the ball, bold (I'm sure with support he can continue to refine his distribution), has a long kick, tackles well.

I worry about Lever staying injury free for long periods. Hoping he'll be good for us.

Strange post though, Frost and Hore play different positions.

 
1 hour ago, Deestroy All said:

Or she may stay with her, we just don't know.

This is top shelf stuff haha

6 hours ago, one_demon said:

OMac wasn't one of the choices

Contaminated question then.


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