PREGAME: Rd 10 vs GWS Giants

[sue 9,009]

8 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

That's an absolute indictment on us.

I wonder what their percentage would be if half their best players were injured.

Sorry to be looking for excuses, but I reckon some on here would blame the team for losing if the team bus was hit by a meteorite on the way to the oval.

Edited May 24, 2019 by sue

[whatwhat say what 22,155]

the idea of not playing gawn as starting ruck is absurd in the extreme

he's arguably the best ruckman in the competition...and you want to station him forward of the ball, thus limiting his power of tapwork and incredible mobility?

[loges 6,767]

2 hours ago, Demon3 said:

I hope not. Weid has not earned a recall not even close. Tim Smith competes, he marks, he puts pressure on. Right now he is more important to our game that Weid.

Weid will get there but is the sort of player that has to be up and about.

Hope if Tim Smith doesn't come up his replacement is Preuss. Weideman so far this season the same intensity as OMac.

[—coach— 3,496]

In Wagner out ANB

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,366]

1 minute ago, —coach— said:

In Wagner out ANB

First of many occasions Lewis has been overlooked?

[jshc__ 53]

Can someone explain why Preuss isn't back in???

[—coach— 3,496]

1 minute ago, jshc__ said:

Can someone explain why Preuss isn't back in???

I would try but it makes absolutely no sense to me.

Edited May 24, 2019 by —coach—

[whatwhat say what 22,155]

1 minute ago, —coach— said:

I would try by it makes absolutely no sense to me.

because he has shown no ability to run out a game of football at afl or vfl level

[Lucifers Hero 38,984]

Lewis plays at Casey which will please a lot of people.

My read is that the club is happy to put games into Petty and Hore.  I like it, given our prospects for finals this year are near zero.   Position ourselves for 2020.

Edited May 24, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[—coach— 3,496]

1 minute ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

because he has shown no ability to run out a game of football at afl or vfl level

Not sure running would be something he needs to do a great deal of. The amount of times the ball was bombed to the 10-20m out directly in front ‘hot spot’ last week was ridiculous. Surely if he was to stand in the goal square and run 10m forward to this spot each time the ball was kicked there we would have a better chance of taking a couple of marks there? Failing that if he crashes the pack that creates opportunities for others to crumb.

[What 18,810]

Still no Preuss, geez.

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6 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

My read is that the club is happy to put games into Petty and Hore.  I like it, given our prospects for finals this year are near zero.   Position ourselves for 2020.

To me, this is just common sense.  Nothing can be gained by playing Lewis especially if he takes the place of a younger player like Petty.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,366]

1 hour ago, sue said:

I wonder what their percentage would be if half their best players were injured.

Sorry to be looking for excuses, but I reckon some on here would blame the team for losing if the team bus was hit by a meteorite on the way to the oval.

We have the second worst percentage (76.2) to GC (76.0).

Sure the percentage  will likely improve, but on what planet is that acceptable given we had a percentage of 131 last year.

And Carlton have actually been hit hard by injuries.

[buck_nekkid 5,819]

6 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We have the second worst percentage (76.2) to GC (76.0).

Sure the percentage  will likely improve, but on what planet is that acceptable given we had a percentage of 131 last year.

And Carlton have actually been hit hard by injuries.

Our 80 point loss and inability to kick a score are costing us

[buck_nekkid 5,819]

Happy with this.  None of those guys were playing well enough to come straight back into the ones from injury.  Make them prove themselves at Casey.   Wagner had a good game last week, so that is a fair call to replace ANB.

Some discussion may be around Preuss, but at Casey last week he started strong, but after half time was a liability. He gave away 3 goals from stupid frees, and was unsighted around the ground.  Could not promote him on this effort.

[picket fence 16,691]

24 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Still no Preuss, geez.

HUGE ERROR!!

[sue 9,009]

15 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We have the second worst percentage (76.2) to GC (76.0).

Sure the percentage  will likely improve, but on what planet is that acceptable given we had a percentage of 131 last year.

And Carlton have actually been hit hard by injuries.

I didn't imply it was acceptable.  It's bloody disappointing.  But our situation requires more analysis than just comparing a number with Carlton's.

[dimmy 1,292]

25 minutes ago, —coach— said:

Not sure running would be something he needs to do a great deal of. The amount of times the ball was bombed to the 10-20m out directly in front ‘hot spot’ last week was ridiculous. Surely if he was to stand in the goal square and run 10m forward to this spot each time the ball was kicked there we would have a better chance of taking a couple of marks there? Failing that if he crashes the pack that creates opportunities for others to crumb.

Bombing the ball means lack of connection . We would get more  results by moving the ball into F50 with a bit of precision, rather than hoping someone will take a couple of contested pack marks.

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37 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

First of many occasions Lewis has been overlooked?

At least one player has to be held over as emergency as Casey also play on Sunday. So maybe Lewis, in which case his Casey career may have to wait. On the other hand,  given the AFL match starts earlier, still time for a mad race across the bridge to Williamstown for a 2 p.m. start?

[DubDee 24,398]

37 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Still no Preuss, geez.

Pruess is an interesting one. 

Do you think we would have been better off last week with him in the team?

[Diamond_Jim 12,359]

11 minutes ago, bing181 said:

At least one player has to be held over as emergency as Casey also play on Sunday. So maybe Lewis, in which case his Casey career may have to wait. On the other hand,  given the AFL match starts earlier, still time for a mad race across the bridge to Williamstown for a 2 p.m. start?

That's what will happen. VFL allows for a 23rd player who is only allowed limited game time so if the AFL emergency doesn't arrive until quarter time it still works out fine.

[Nasher 33,607]

Pleasantly surprised Goody didn’t automatically fall back to Lewis. Not that C.Wagner is an enormous upgrade, but it puts to bed any thoughts that he won’t change his thinking on his veterans.

[Nasher 33,607]

24 minutes ago, picket fence said:

HUGE ERROR!!

Phew - official confirmation that it’s a good decision.

[binman 41,966]

6 hours ago, Nasher said:

A player plays an otherwise good game that has an obviously positive effect on the game, but has one blemish in it. Would you prefer the blemish be:

a) 1 dropped sitter?
b) 1 shanked set shot from 30 out, directly in front?
c) 1 failure to 'go'? 

For some reason, everyone eventually overlooks (a) and (b) but (c) appears to be a completely unforgivable sin. I reckon if the player committed 5 of them in a game, maybe I could get it, but I reckon too much weight is being put on one error for Garlett. 

For those who see the world in black and white and think I'm suggesting it should be acceptable not to 'go' when required, I'm certainly not. I'm just suggesting it's one of a suite of things that should be non-negotiable in AFL football, but it seems to get a disproportional amount of focus, despite the fact that it probably has the same outcome on the scoreboard, or arguably less outcome on the scoreboard, than the other cardinal and very rectifiable sins.

A very reasonable perspective and one that is hard to argue with. I'm probably a bit guilty of marking jeffy a bit hard in terms of his contests.

I guess my concern is that it is becoming a pattern rather than a one off. But perhaps he's conscious of not damaging the shoulder he hurt pre season. I'll cut him slack.

[DemonOX 8,699]

Why get Preuss to the club. 

Would be less painful banging my head against a brick wall than trying to figure out why they haven’t selected Preuss. 

FMD.