10 hours ago, Ash35 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cwiBma5WKg

Thanks for bringing some sunshine back onto this board, Ash35. 

Its good to read positive posts even if of past a champ rather than the critique of current playersm hopefuly tmorrow's champs!

Exquisite timing among the doom and gloom.

 

54 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thanks for bringing some sunshine back onto this board, Ash35. 

Its good to read positive posts even if of past a champ rather than the critique of current playersm hopefuly tmorrow's champs!

Exquisite timing among the doom and gloom.

 

Well even poor Garry cops a fair bit on here too. I think sometimes we do forget he was a Melbourne great who spent 8 years captaining this club.

I do alao understand thats his role now days in the media is to critique the club if its there.

8 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

That forward line in 1994 with Lyon Jakovich Neitz Sean Charles and the Ox. How did we not win a flag? 

Injuries.

Jakovich retired in like round 15. Lyon hurt his hamstring in round 6 vs North and missed like 6 games. Charles had a host of personal issues and also missed large chunks. Neitz was a backman at this stage and rarely went forward. Ox was outstanding. 

The problem was that we just seemed to get injuries whenever we would get on a run. And they would always be injuries to key players. Tingay as well. Lovell. Lovett. 

Come finals time we were peaking but much like last year, we faced a rampaging Eagles on their home turf, and we were burnt out after essentially playing 3 elimination finals (we needed to beat Sydney in round 24 to make finals). 

It was a brutal season from an injuries perspective. If we could have kept Jako, Charles, Lyon, Lovell, Lovett, Tingay on the field together for long periods we would have finished higher and perhaps have at least snagged a GF berth. Alas, like 1998, it just wasn't to be.

9 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

That forward line in 1994 with Lyon Jakovich Neitz Sean Charles and the Ox. How did we not win a flag? 

I recall going to a training session the year after at the Junction and speaking to a trainer about our prospects in 95.  He said they (I assume he meant the club) felt 94 was the one that got away.

This is just about all we are good for - showing old clips of old champion players because the season is going down the toilet.

A pure natural footballer and leader. He was a ball player and a ball magnet. His skill and poise over the ball were only bettered by the great Robbie. It will always be his kicking that stands out most in my memory. Absolute gun of the highest order.

Im a big fan and he was the player that i first really loved. He was a bloody great natural footballer. watching those clips i realized he would be the exact player we need right now. He was so good on the ground and on his non proffered foot  the left. In actual fact he is a 5 time All Australia the first 2 were not called All Australian sides.. but is registered as a 5 time All Aus, one as a CHB and the rest as a forward so that indicates what versatile player he was. He also won the equivalent of the NAB rising star in 1986.

He cops a lot on here and from Demon supporters, and im not saying its right or wrong but when you talk about him on the field, i hope he gets the respect he deserves and i would hope one day he enters the AFL hall of Fame because some of the players in there are certainly not in his class.

I've been a member for 35 years and Garry Lyon is comfortably in the top 3 MFC players in that time, if not number 1. It simply staggers me that he is not in the AFL Hall of Fame. 

 

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

I recall going to a training session the year after at the Junction and speaking to a trainer about our prospects in 95.  He said they (I assume he meant the club) felt 94 was the one that got away.

The first year that I disregarded who won the GF. The reason? We were a better team culled by unexpected injuries. 

Has the obligatory "We're in crisis, let's give Garry a phone call" occurred yet?

5 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

The first year that I disregarded who won the GF. The reason? We were a better team culled by unexpected injuries. 

And the Eagles were injecting god knows what.

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

And the Eagles were injecting god knows what.

Those were the days when the Eagles thought it 'trendy'. 

23 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Those were the days when the Eagles thought it 'trendy'. 

How is it that they never got caught,  Re drugs in they're blood tests ?

something is crook in AFL world.

2 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

And the Eagles were injecting god knows what.

Confirmed to me by the brother of the Full Back at the time. He also said a chap who played for them wasn't called 'The Chemist' for nothing.

Good memories in these clips, not only to remind us what a great player he was, but how good some of his team mates were as well.

On another note, it is so strange to see the concrete patch behind the goals at the city end of the MCG, the players rolling in the mud, the cigarette and alcohol advertising around the grounds, the tight shorts! It seems so long ago now and yet I remember those days well. Makes me feel old. 

1 hour ago, dieter said:

Confirmed to me by the brother of the Full Back at the time. He also said a chap who played for them wasn't called 'The Chemist' for nothing.

Exactly.  Also coached them when they had their well documented illicit drug culture that has ruined numerous lives.  And now coaches you know who.

All very interesting,  if not diabolical.

Don’t really like him as a person but could seriously play. 

33 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Exactly.  Also coached them when they had their well documented illicit drug culture that has ruined numerous lives.  And now coaches you know who.

All very interesting,  if not diabolical.

It almost makes a mockery of the whole 'war on drugs' scenario. It's a very serious and bad joke.

By the way, the brother of the ex Weagle also said the whole game is riddled with drug abuse: the Bombers were simply the only ones to get sprung.

 

I knew someone who played with the  late 80's and 90's.

 

He loves joking around about that time...   and "the Elephant Juice".

 

"the elephant Juice"

Exquisite ball skills, perfect balance both sides, could play tall or shorter and in any position, a capable mark one-on-one, even netter mark when out of position (notice how many two grabbers), versatile, tough, courageous and a great leader. If not for injury would have been undoubtedly been forward of the 90s after Schwarz and Carey.

Magnificent promoter of the club and the game  and also a great analyser of the game. Not too good at picking coaches.

The video highlights are how he played all the time. Thanks for the reminder.

 

5 hours ago, dieter said:

Confirmed to me by the brother of the Full Back at the time. He also said a chap who played for them wasn't called 'The Chemist' for nothing.

I knew someone who played with the Hawks, late 80's and 90's.

 

He loves joking around about that time...   and "the Elephant Juice"....   "the elephant Juice"

On ‎4‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 11:51 PM, Matsuo Basho said:

That forward line in 1994 with Lyon Jakovich Neitz Sean Charles and the Ox. How did we not win a flag? 

Martin Pike was also good in the second half of the year, kicked 4 in the Quali against Carlton, we then shipped him off at the end of the year because of his fondness for turning up at training smelling like duff man!

10 minutes ago, Spud said:

Martin Pike was also good in the second half of the year, kicked 4 in the Quali against Carlton, we then shipped him off at the end of the year because of his fondness for turning up at training smelling like duff man

He's at the top of the list of players we shipped out only to win flag/s at other clubs.

1 hour ago, praha said:

He's at the top of the list of players we shipped out only to win flag/s at other clubs.

Pike starred in 4 premiership sides if I’m not mistaken? One North, three Lions’ flags.

He was too tough a player for Melbourne.

 

16 hours ago, DV8 said:

How is it that they never got caught,  Re drugs in they're blood tests ?

something is crook in AFL world.

Finding them out would have been prejudicial in those days; performance enhancement took many forms and Ben Cousins wore the blame and guilt - but he was a great, great footballer capable of almost anything - all assumed that he was fearless until it was too late.