Demon Dynasty 17,166 Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, A F said: Patton won't work in the forward system we need to play. We already have a cumbersome, ordinary forward line that completely lacks pace and gets rebounded off week in and week out. Patton would contribute to this problem. A player like Himmelberg as some have noted is a really good example of a nimble forward that can take a big mark but get the job done on the ground too. Even Greenwood from Adelaide, Lever's best mate, would be an interesting idea to play forward. Quick, strong, a decent kick and a good mark. Could rotate between the midfield and deep forward. We need to radically change our set up, making us faster, unpredictable and harder to coach against. We need a fit Melksham, a fit Hannan, even a fit Vandenberg would help. Along with Petracca, a Greenwood-type, Caddy, Bolton and another quick (how's Bedford coming along?), this will drastically change our forwardline. Personally, I'd implement far more rotation and switching between deep forward, half forward and midfield than we do. I'd basically play a similar system to Liverpool in soccer. The front 3 or 4 attackers constantly rotate in and out of midfield, wide positions and attack. I'd look at making us dynamic as possible by making a lot of our positions agnostic and interchangeable. Patton doesn't won't work if we go down this sort of path. Bedford a medium term MAYBE at this point. At least another season at Casey away from impacting (or thereabouts) IMV. A big yes to the rest of your post AND Roosts highlighted bit below. We have been too immobile for years for too many blocks of matches. Major injection of movement needed aka Fritschkreig & a little from Petty on Sat night. Melk in 2020. Why im super keen on Cameron. He offers the mobility and goal smarts and can clunk them anywhere playing outside the arc & in/around the goal square. I know we wont get him but a Lynch/Cameron/Himmelburg type is a huge must along with a few quality small forwards. 4 hours ago, Roost It said: We need pace, class and players in the 22-26 bracket. Patton will go to the Hawks, a massive no to Jenkins and perhaps a new coach but that’s yet to be fully proven. Courtesy of NIC NEGREPONTIS via SEN (apologies if posted/discussed previously guys) ...."Unfortunately for key forward Jon Patton, a minor setback has delayed his return from a torn ACL last year. He was set for a return via the NEAFL, but that has been pushed back by up to three weeks. “With Patton, he was about to return a couple of weeks ago, we’ve just had a couple of minor little setbacks at training and just the final piece of the puzzle in terms of returning to play,” he said. “That might be in a few weeks time. “We were going smooth sailing there, but then we just had a couple of little setbacks so it might be another two or three weeks, but it’s hard to put a timeline on that.” End. Edited August 5, 2019 by Rusty Nails Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 "Minor, little setbacks"??? Please no! Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted August 5, 2019 Posted August 5, 2019 39 minutes ago, Moonshadow said: "Minor, little setbacks"??? Please no! Injury prone. I seriously doubt we are in the market for a high priced crock. Don't worry Mr Shadow he ain't coming to the Dees. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted August 15, 2019 Posted August 15, 2019 Demons supporter as a boy. Off to the Hawks for likely 3rd round pick 42-45 selection. Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted August 17, 2019 Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) On 8/5/2019 at 5:21 PM, old dee said: Injury prone. I seriously doubt we are in the market for a high priced crock. Don't worry Mr Shadow he ain't coming to the Dees. No worse then Weeds who injures himself 3-4 times a year Edited August 17, 2019 by olisik Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 I wouldn’t have an issue with us having a look at Patton, I’m not sure what gets the job done in terms of picks/trade options. He is injury prone and that’s the major risk we’d take with him, it’s a matter of whether our (new) high performance team would feel that they can nurse him back to health without too many regular setbacks. Right now our forward line is completely impotent, do we think that TMac will get back to his best? Do we think Weids will become the player we hope he can be? In the last two trade periods we’ve given up two forward in Watts and Hogan (while also delisting Pedders who had decent hands on him) but haven’t got any sort of key forward back. I don’t think we can continue to hope TMac and Weids will be the answer to our goal kicking issues. 1 Quote
Demon Disciple 12,537 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 Him going to Hawthorn is a fait acompli. 1 Quote
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Demon Disciple said: Him going to Hawthorn is a fait acompli. The Hot Air Balloons on Footy Classified were all in agreement that this deal is all but done. They said he isn't playing at any level right now so as to avoid injury before his move to Hawthorn. 1 Quote
Demon Disciple 12,537 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 Watch him go to the Hawks for a 5th round draft pick. Another salary dump by the Giants. Quote
GetJonnoPatton 15 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) Dees Pick 2(3) for GWS picks 11,13&Patton. Now there’s a deal we should push for! This is it - the silver lining to this year’s debacle. https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-29/why-the-giants-are-eyeing-off-the-demons-no2-draft-pick Edited August 30, 2019 by GetJonnoPatton Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said: Dees Pick 2(3) for GWS picks 11,13&Patton. Now there’s a deal we should push for! This is it - the silver lining to this year’s debacle. https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-29/why-the-giants-are-eyeing-off-the-demons-no2-draft-pick Oh AH. Oh um. Maybe no. Maybe tempting. #2/3 for 11,13,and Patton. Well. No no. No. Nah. Um. Could we. No. No ummmmm well. Let me think. No. Ah. Umm. Quote
GCDee 3,202 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 32 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said: Dees Pick 2(3) for GWS picks 11,13&Patton. Now there’s a deal we should push for! This is it - the silver lining to this year’s debacle. https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-29/why-the-giants-are-eyeing-off-the-demons-no2-draft-pick I think we will struggle to get him in the cap....I believe his contract is in excess of 700k Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, GetJonnoPatton said: Dees Pick 2(3) for GWS picks 11,13&Patton. Now there’s a deal we should push for! This is it - the silver lining to this year’s debacle. https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-29/why-the-giants-are-eyeing-off-the-demons-no2-draft-pick I don’t mind it but we need OUTSIDE RUNNERS like we have for the last 13 seasons. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted September 2, 2019 Posted September 2, 2019 On 4/26/2019 at 6:21 PM, dazzledavey36 said: Once someone is linked to a hawks you might as well walk away.. They are so ruthless and just know how to get the job done. God if only we could be like that on and off the field. Quote
Demon Dynasty 17,166 Posted September 2, 2019 Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 8:52 PM, DemonOX said: I don’t mind it but we need OUTSIDE RUNNERS like we have for the last 13 seasons. 1 Quote
GetJonnoPatton 15 Posted September 2, 2019 Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 8:52 PM, DemonOX said: I don’t mind it but we need OUTSIDE RUNNERS like we have for the last 13 seasons. Who are these outside runners going to kick it to? Pray tell ... Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, GetJonnoPatton said: Who are these outside runners going to kick it to? Pray tell ... Not Patton. 3 knee recos. Not 1, not 2, but 3.... 1 Quote
ding 5,126 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 Patton?? His knees are shot. Let the Hawks deal with his broken body. If this season taught us anything, its that we need players who can stay on the park Quote
TeamPlayedFine39 8,525 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 A full forward who averages 1 goal and 1 tackle per game? Sign me up! Quote
Demonland 74,443 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said: A full forward who averages 1 goal and 1 tackle per game? Sign me up! You forgot the trifecta of being injury prone. Quote
GetJonnoPatton 15 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, ding said: Patton?? His knees are shot. Let the Hawks deal with his broken body. If this season taught us anything, its that we need players who can stay on the park Like Scully and O’Meara’s “broken bodies”? Hmmm. Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said: Like Scully and O’Meara’s “broken bodies”? Hmmm. Scully is one of the least damaging players in the comp. I'll give you O'Meara, but they paid plenty to get him. There is a reason Scully came cheap and it's the same reason as to why Patton will come for the same price. Edited September 3, 2019 by Wiseblood Quote
GetJonnoPatton 15 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Wiseblood said: Scully is one of the least damaging players in the comp. I could name about 10 in the last 22 who ran out for us who are less damaging than him. Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, GetJonnoPatton said: Who are these outside runners going to kick it to? Pray tell ... Preferably into the forward 50 and actually hit a target rather than dumping it on their heads and praying they take mark of the yr each time. Quote
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