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Just now, Demonsone said:

They just seem to get it right more times than others, yet the MFC get it wrong most times!

It’s player development as well of course but they know what they’re doing re recruitment. No-one’s perfect but Clarkson’s as close to a footballing oracle as there has been in this business over the past twenty years. 

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The hawks can have him, we need tall fast guys, with have enough slow blokes,

666 has changed the game, Melbourne, North Melbourne and the Hawks are being hurt the most for not adapting and sticking with the inside bulls.

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4 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

What an incredibly arrogant statement. Mocking a club that wins flags at the same rate as we win spoons. 

Actually, I was mocking you

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4 hours ago, chookrat said:

Is Brashaw the same guy who polled third in last years Brownlow despite not playing AFL in the first couple of rounds? 

WGAF about the Brownlow? So you think he was the 3rd best player in the comp last year?

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3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Actually, I was mocking you

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Mods - I'd suggest this is flaming according to Demonland rules? Over to you.

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1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Ironic, given i took that image from a mod's post ages ago

Ooh teacher's pet. Not surprised you're the type who sits up the front of the class. Sap.

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7 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Mods - I'd suggest this is flaming according to Demonland rules? Over to you.

 

2 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Ooh teacher's pet. Not surprised you're the type who sits up the front of the class. Sap.

 

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1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

 

 

Moon you do realise you're dealing with none other than @Range Rover himself?

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Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Moon you do realise you're dealing with none other than Range Rover himself?

Can be no one else!!!

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23 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Moon you do realise you're dealing with none other than @Range Rover himself?

Ahhhhh, the penny drops. Thanks Dazzle.

And I thought multiple profiles was against Demonland rules 🤔

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3 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

WGAF about the Brownlow? So you think he was the 3rd best player in the comp last year?

He's pretty much A grade IMO. He certainly was by the second half of last year.

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On 4/26/2019 at 9:34 PM, Matsuo Basho said:

Yeah I watch the game thanks for asking.

We’ve got:

Clarry

Gus

Viney

Harnes

Petracca

Salem

Hunt

3 A Graders there too with potential of 2 more and our sights set on who knows. 

Your point?

I A grader.

Salem might get there, but no other on that list will.

A couple closer to c grader than A grade.

And one who is C grade.

And only one can reliably hit a target. And he plays on the hb so does not kick it inside 50. 

For a negative nellie you are remarkably unrealisticly positive in your assessment of those players.3 A graders and the potential of 2 more? Sheesh. 

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On 10/17/2018 at 11:40 AM, Matsuo Basho said:

Just joshin’ guys. Always knew he’d go.

Been fun. Range Rover out! 

🏆🏆🏆😇

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59 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Moon you do realise you're dealing with none other than @Range Rover himself?

I preferred it when he stopped posting. Nothing but a troll. 

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13 hours ago, Demonsone said:

25 Yo with 3 knee recos

People having a go at the club for getting Lever who ends up doing a knee again.

I can only imagine if Patton come over & done a knee!

 

 

People are not having a go at the club for getting Lever.

 

Only the fact that we payed too highly...  we folded,  instead of holding our line,  of One 1st Rnd Pick,  plus something else.

Giving up TWO 1st Rnd picks is the problem in that deal.

We could have taken a running centreline player,  with that pick.

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8 hours ago, DV8 said:

People are not having a go at the club for getting Lever.

 

Only the fact that we payed too highly...  we folded,  instead of holding our line,  of One 1st Rnd Pick,  plus something else.

Giving up TWO 1st Rnd picks is the problem in that deal.

We could have taken a running centreline player,  with that pick.

Agree DV8. We were far too acquiescent and accommodating on the Lever trade. Would a Gubby Allen or Dodoro have coughed up TWO first rounders for an intercept marking defender? Very much doubt it. For a Treloar or a Shiel sure but not for anything else than a bonafide midfield A grader or 60+ goal a year full forward. Always irked me how quickly Mahoney and Co caved to a petulant Brett Burton on that deal. We were too nice and we’re paying for it now with opportunities missed to fill important holes in the list. Nothing at all to do with Lever’s injury, bad luck happens. But so does good luck when you play the chess game at trade week properly. Typically, we didn’t.

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Those two 1st rounders for Lever ended up being Lochie O'Brien and Liam Stocker. "Who?" I hear you say.

In the long run, I'm ok with that. 

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On 4/27/2019 at 1:06 PM, Tony Tea said:

Yes. If the Hawks are into him, he has already committed to them. It's almost as if the Hawks modus operandi is to instruct a player to get injured, pick him up cheap, then turn him into a gun.

That is true ----- a good method that seems to work for the Hawks. However, I am a little suspect of Patton regarding his fitness since the injury - I'd reckon at first glance that he will be down for some time on a shaky recovery. 

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25 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Those two 1st rounders for Lever ended up being Lochie O'Brien and Liam Stocker. "Who?" I hear you say.

In the long run, I'm ok with that. 

 Crazy statement. It wasn’t about selecting two quality youngsters instead of Lever. It was about forcing Adelaide’s hand to accept one first round pick for him instead of two. Had we done that we would’ve got Lever AND had a pick in the first round of last year’s super draft. We could have potentially added the next Luke Shuey, Isaac Smith or Liam Ryan to our list - all players drafted in the latter part of the first round. And who’s to say Lochie OBrien or Liam Stocker won’t end up fantastic 150+ game players for the Blues, who’s list is already looking uncomfortably more well rounded than ours. 

You might be okay with that but I and I would suggest many others are not. Caved too early during trade week and are now paying the price. 

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5 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

 Crazy statement. It wasn’t about selecting two quality youngsters instead of Lever. It was about forcing Adelaide’s hand to accept one first round pick for him instead of two. Had we done that we would’ve got Lever AND had a pick in the first round of last year’s super draft. We could have potentially added the next Luke Shuey or Liam Ryan to our list. And who’s to say Lochie OBrien or Liam Stocker won’t end up fantastic 150+ game players for the Blues, who’s list is already looking uncomfortably more well rounded than ours. 

You might be okay with that but I and I would suggest many others are not. Caved too early during trade week and are now paying the price. 

blues list is looking better ? umm no. lets not lose perspective here. our midfield is light years ahead and up and running have more powerful talls.

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16 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

blues list is looking better ? umm no. lets not lose perspective here. our midfield is light years ahead and up and running have more powerful talls.

More powerful talls? Nup, their spine is already better than ours.

Plowman/Jones - Weitering - Cripps - Curnow - McKay

... and their midfield is for sure a work in progress but Cripps, Dow, SPS, Walsh as a core has plenty of potential. 

They will be knocking on the door if the eight in 24 months, particularly if they can land the big midfield fish they keep hunting.

We can too, but we desperately need a KPF. A gorilla. A ‘spine straightener’. Hello The General Jonno Patton.

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2 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Would a Gubby Allen or Dodoro have coughed up TWO first rounders for an intercept marking defender? Very much doubt it. For a Treloar or a Shiel sure but not for anything else than a bonafide midfield A grader or 60+ goal a year full forward.

I wouldn't give two 1st Rnd picks for Shiel or Treloar either,  on today's thinking.

I would struggle even with Danger,  when he was traded.

Cameron maybe... possibly Kely. still think Two 1st Rnd picks is too high.

 

For Lever one 1St Rnd pick,  maybe a late 2nd,  Or 3rd Rnd pick,  should have been enough...  or we play hardball other ways to get the player. 

 

We are, Too Polite.

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2 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

 Crazy statement. It wasn’t about selecting two quality youngsters instead of Lever. It was about forcing Adelaide’s hand to accept one first round pick for him instead of two. Had we done that we would’ve got Lever AND had a pick in the first round of last year’s super draft. We could have potentially added the next Luke Shuey, Isaac Smith or Liam Ryan to our list - all players drafted in the latter part of the first round. And who’s to say Lochie OBrien or Liam Stocker won’t end up fantastic 150+ game players for the Blues, who’s list is already looking uncomfortably more well rounded than ours. 

You might be okay with that but I and I would suggest many others are not. Caved too early during trade week and are now paying the price. 

I'm being followed by a Range Rover,

Range Rover

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13 minutes ago, DV8 said:

I wouldn't give two 1st Rnd picks for Shiel or Treloar either,  on today's thinking.

I would struggle even with Danger,  when he was traded.

Cameron maybe... possibly Kely. still think Two 1st Rnd picks is too high.

 

For Lever one 1St Rnd pick,  maybe a late 2nd,  Or 3rd Rnd pick,  should have been enough...  or we play hardball other ways to get the player. 

 

We are, Too Polite.

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Can't agree with your assessment of Shiel and Treloar DV8. Shiel is bordering on being a top 10 player in the competition. Plenty would have him in there including me. Absolutely torched us three weeks ago. Treloar is not far behind him. Both sensational players.

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