The 2019 Draft and Trade Targets Thread

[whatwhat say what 22,113]

9 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Gee wiz he's a good player, any chance he heads back to Perth though? or are we thinking the Blues have got themselves together enough that he'll stick around?

too many visy brown paper bags to keep him at the blues

[Pennant St Dee 12,657]

10 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Gee wiz he's a good player, any chance he heads back to Perth though? or are we thinking the Blues have got themselves together enough that he'll stick around?

Nah he'll stay at Carlton for life, country boy who didn't spend much time in Perth and from what I've heard, absolutely loves living in Melbourne but why wouldn't you. Great City especially on his wage

[Adam The God 29,333]

42 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Nah he'll stay at Carlton for life, country boy who didn't spend much time in Perth and from what I've heard, absolutely loves living in Melbourne but why wouldn't you. Great City especially on his wage

My favourite non-MFC player. Absolute gun. Wish we could get him one day. The opposition would never win a stoppage with Oliver and Cripps in the same team.

[Elwood 3184 1,293]

15 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The first week of trade window is effectively over.  There have been 6 player movements:

FA: Ellis, Tomlinson, Ellis-Yeoman, Birchall,

Trades: Frost, Langdon.

Our club enhances its reputation to gets deals done!

 

As an aside, only 2 trades for a week shows they should shorten the trade period. 

Erm ... you might have missed the trade involving Tim Kelly?

[Mach5 4,599]

15 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

 

Tom Browne

 

@TomBrowne7

 

A lot of clubs are trying to move up the draft order, including proposing using future picks. Melbourne and Carlton were im told close on a deal that fell over today. Indicative that talent good at top of draft, then falls off, possibly around 7 or 8

 

I’d think it’s more like Sydney saying to Carlton:

”Melb have put pick 3 on the table. We want Daniher and pick 3 will go part way to satisfying Essendon. If you want Papley, get us pick 3.”

[spirit of norm smith 15,117]

Ins. Langdon Tomlinson 

out.  Frost traded, Lewis TSmith Maynard retired , Garlett Keilty delisted. Walker cat B

Stretch and JKH both out of contract.  See if any interest or may retain/delist.  Stretch was noted as having interest from Suns

4 spots available.  Likely we will add one DFA or a late trade.  Three draft picks 3,26,50.  

[dazzledavey36 52,731]

Being the weekend, can trades still get done today and tomorrow??

Edited October 12, 2019 by dazzledavey36

[Whispering_Jack 29,178]

17 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

 

Tom Browne

 

@TomBrowne7

 

A lot of clubs are trying to move up the draft order, including proposing using future picks. Melbourne and Carlton were im told close on a deal that fell over today. Indicative that talent good at top of draft, then falls off, possibly around 7 or 8

Posters are assuming that this comment refers to the two clubs negotiating over Melbourne’s draft pick #3. That may or may not be the case - they could have been negotiating around a possible swap of picks later in the draft which might have fallen over once the Frost/Langdon trades were finalised. 

I’m still convinced that at some point, the Demons and GWS will sit down and discuss a mutually beneficial trade for our pick 3.  

[Pennant St Dee 12,657]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Being the weekend, can trades still get done today and tomorrow??

Not sure but from memory I seem to recall the Mitch Clark deal being done on a  Saturday 

[DeeSpencer 24,697]

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Posters are assuming that this comment refers to the two clubs negotiating over Melbourne’s draft pick #3. That may or may not be the case - they could have been negotiating around a possible swap of picks later in the draft which might have fallen over once the Frost/Langdon trades were finalised. 

I’m still convinced that at some point, the Demons and GWS will sit down and discuss a mutually beneficial trade for our pick 3.  

Good call. Pick 22 seemed about spot on for Jack Martin, we might've been working with Carlton on a deal to get them that pick.

[Demon Disciple 11,615]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Being the weekend, can trades still get done today and tomorrow??

I think clubs can agree to trades, but aren't 'official' until processed through the AFL.

[Moonshadow 17,476]

FMD,  Essendon want Heaney or Blakey as part of the Daniher trade. For a guy whos spent most of the past 2 years injured with chronic conditions. Dodobird is an [censored] hole. Swans should give him the bird and let the Bombers deal with Joe's disgruntled, huge salary.

Edited October 12, 2019 by Moonshadow

[markc 975]

33 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

FMD,  Essendon want Heaney or Blakey as part of the Daniher trade. For a guy whos spent most of the past 2 years injured with chronic conditions. Dodobird is an [censored] hole. Swans should give him the bird and let the Bombers deal with Joe's disgruntled, huge salary.

i agree and isn't he a free agent end of next year anyway ?

[Demon Disciple 11,615]

1 hour ago, markc said:

i agree and isn't he a free agent end of next year anyway ?

Restricted

[Lucifers Hero 38,973]

10 hours ago, markc said:

i agree and isn't he a free agent end of next year anyway ?

 

8 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Restricted

And, Ess will be bloody minded, match or pretend to match Sydney's bid ala the Crows with Danger and force a trade. 

Sydney are honest brokers but not fools.  Dodoro will end up with egg on his face if this ends up at the AFL for arbitration as his deals are prone to do.

[Lucifers Hero 38,973]

Quite a lot of bloody mindedness/posturing this year. Freo (Hill), Crows (Keath), Ess (Daniher), Saints (Bruce and Stevens), asking overs and the buying team walks away or stands their ground. 

Interesting 3 days ahead.  The deals will probably get done but some of the downstream deals may not get through before the deadline.  Thankfully, pick trades can continue till the end of the Draft so deals being held up shouldn't hurt us with splitting pick 3, if no player is involved. 

At least we get our deals done early.

Edited October 12, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[Wiseblood 24,637]

12 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

FMD,  Essendon want Heaney or Blakey as part of the Daniher trade. For a guy whos spent most of the past 2 years injured with chronic conditions. Dodobird is an [censored] hole. Swans should give him the bird and let the Bombers deal with Joe's disgruntled, huge salary.

Someone was trying to tell me a few weeks back that the Bombers being tough to deal with was a 'myth'. 

As long as Dodoro is there they will always be an absolute pain during trade week. 

[Nasher 33,607]

I look forward to the day when an Essendon player says he wants to go to Fremantle or vice-versa. Actually, maybe not, Bellend and Dododo egos going head to head might cause the universe to collapse.

[Nasher 33,607]

On 10/13/2019 at 8:05 AM, Lucifer's Hero said:

Quite a lot of bloody mindedness/posturing this year. Freo (Hill), Crows (Keath), Ess (Daniher), Saints (Bruce and Stevens), asking overs and the buying team walks away or stands their ground. 

Interesting 3 days ahead.  The deals will probably get done but some of the downstream deals may not get through before the deadline.  Thankfully, pick trades can continue till the end of the Draft so deals being held up shouldn't hurt us with splitting pick 3, if no player is involved. 

At least we get our deals done early.

Who was it a couple of years ago that wasted a big chunk of their trade period sitting in arbitration because they couldn’t agree on a deal? From memory it was Essendon and St Kilda over Jake Carlisle.

We can’t underestimate the importance of getting your deals sorted early so you can move on to your next item. Mahons must have been stoked when he learned the Frost deal would be done with Hawthorn. Two clubs with a no BS approach to trading; no coincidence it was one of the first trades done. It’s also no coincidence that we’re always one of the most active clubs at trade time. 

Despite the way 2019 transpired, at this time of year, I always feel like we’re in very good hands.

[Lucifers Hero 38,973]

4 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Who was it a couple of years ago that wasted a big chunk of their trade period sitting in arbitration because they couldn’t agree on a deal? From memory it was Essendon and St Kilda over Jake Carlisle.

iirc Ess also ended up in arbitration for Ryder to Port.  They are habitual offenders.

[Jaded No More 67,634]

18 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Who was it a couple of years ago that wasted a big chunk of their trade period sitting in arbitration because they couldn’t agree on a deal? From memory it was Essendon and St Kilda over Jake Carlisle.

You can’t underestimate the importance of getting your deals sorted early so you can move on to your next item. Mahons must have been stoked when he learned the Frost deal would be done with Hawthorn. Two clubs with a no BS approach to trading; no coincidence it was one of the first trades done. It’s also no coincidence that we’re always one of the most active clubs at trade time. 

Say what you want about season 2019 but at this time of year, I always feel like we’re in very good hands.

Correct. 
It’s great to get players to say they want to come to your club,  but if your club cant get [censored] done eventually players won’t come asking. 
Lever, May, Tomlinson, Langdon... we’ve gotten some big trade done quickly and easily the last few years and also did the right thing by player who wanted out. 
No point being a stubborn [censored].

Better one bird in the hand and all that. 
 

[Nasher 33,607]

29 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

iirc Ess also ended up in arbitration for Ryder to Port.  They are habitual offenders.

It might have been that I was thinking of. 

It’s funny watching them operate though. They seem to be the only ones who actually try to operate in the way mug footy fans think it should work. 

[Clintosaurus 7,546]

Essendon's biggest problem is they think their [censored] does not stink. It affects their approach to everything.

[Whispering_Jack 29,178]

It’s very nice that Dododo is regarded as a tough negotiator but isn’t all of his bravado masking the fact that his club doesn’t seen to be doing much recruiting of its own? Virtually every player they’ve been associated with has nominated Carlton, St Kilda or someone else and the only decent players named in connection with them are the Swans’ Heeney and Blakey suggested by the Bombers as a trade for Daniher. But it was just a suggestion - they were too lazy to even approach them.

Fair dinkum.

[binman 41,945]

On 10/9/2019 at 6:47 PM, Baghdad Bob said:

Don't people get sick of bagging Oscar?  It's such a bore. Last time I looked he played for us and hence we should support him. 

I don't get it. Leaving aside any assessment of OMac's ability (though it is worth noting the club chose to give him anorher contract and Mahoney was happy to trade everyone's new pin up frost, in part because in his words we had coverage down back, including omac) he plays for the dees. Call me crazy supporters should suppor. And if they can't should at the least not do the opposite.