we had the same number of scoring shots as they had!  we just played a pathetic band of football and were lucky to not lose by more.

We had our chances but our disposal was woeful, kicking and hand passing to the opposition when under pressure, occasionally when not under pressure. they were first at the ball in defence and in attack, so where were our players. Every team we have played this year has burnt us big on the overlap run out of defence and still we have no solution...... It is not a new problem, happens every game so why are we not prepared for it.

I hate the zone defence. it seems to me that you are essentially trying to take advantage of the miss kick and pick up cheap interceptions. problem is when the opposition does not miss kick then they have an easy run all the way down the field. 

Lot of homework done on us this week, and Kent would have been instrumental in that. This worked. I would also use the words he used.

Just think what they would have been.

Do I win a prize?

11 minutes ago, bing181 said:

You wonder at what point you write off the season  - though for me, we'd partly written it off before it started with so many players having compromised preseasons due to elective surgeries. Perhaps time to start investing in players like Sparrow and Petty, and seeing where we are with players like Keilty.

We had the chance today,  to play Keilty and Stretch, and Lockhart. 

They would have given us more run across the mid section...  and Keilty could have offered up some mobility up forward...  easing pressure on Weide & TMc,  who is injured,  and TMc could have also moved back to defence more readily,  if Keilty had played today.

11 minutes ago, watchtheeyes said:

Nice to read some proper, level headed analysis!

Couldn’t agree more. The whole ‘win the ball at source’ philosophy is fine, but you better dominate in there.

A territory game can also be fine, but you better have the players, and in our case we went in with 3 talls.

And the game awareness/structure in the D50 is shocking, which fees like Chaplin. Or they relied on May and when he went down we weren’t prepared.

Lewis, Jones are clearly now liabilities.. so what the hell were they doing on the wings against such a fast team?

Why the hell didn’t we send TMac back? Petracca to the ball? Fritsch forward? Anything at all?

I hate the rubbish about ‘not trying’, ‘no heart’, in my view this is never the reason. In this case it was coaching, all over the place. Just. Dreadful.

 

Of Course we are trying .  It just all gone to hell with system/injuries garbage pre season   Written off this year develope for next year. This is like the neil D era(God love him)  one year on one year Off.

13 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Hibberd and TMac should be made examples of and dropped for Petty and Kielty.

Spargo and Wagners our for Garlett , Stretch and Baker.

Lewis is finished too , maybe Tom Sparrow for him .

Years over so may as well play the kids until Lever and May return.

We are unfit and have no plan going forward.

It would be good as a statement. Can't keep giving out of form games to prove they r put of form

4 minutes ago, olisik said:

Wonder when we l stop using our wings as retirement homes and play proper wingers like Stretch there.

Only after the opposition have taken advantage of this glaring error, posted a solid lead and the game is pretty much over olisik.  Anytime after that!!

Goodwin needs to put a players name next to a Richmond players magnet.  Play man on man and see who isn’t willing to play defence.  If you don’t play defence you play for Casey.

Every aspect of our game is bottom 2.  Acid need to be thrown on the player and coaching staff.  President needs to put all the football department on notice.

It's clearly system based.  We're poorly organised.  

Players and coaches out of form.

23 minutes ago, Nasher said:

How can you possibly pinpoint which coach is directly responsible for this problem from the outside?

Easy..the one in charge

Too many vfl level players: Spargo, Frost, Hunt, Hore, C Wagner, J Wagner

Old men past it: Jones, Lewis, Hibberd

9 minutes ago, willmoy said:

I reckon the Umpires were making me sick, it couldn't have been the players.

At least 5 clear frees not paid within 20 metres of goal. It's how results are manipulated. Got Pies to 2 minutes from a flag and is working for them this year too.

20 minutes ago, R.I.P. Troy said:

Come on all the 'it will be ok ers'.

Educate me on how it's all ok.

I'm all ears.

But I'd rather you wallow in misery ?

@Scoop Junior‘s post is excellent but, I think, lets the players off the hook too much. 

In the third quarter we were significantly outworked around the ground. At a time when we should have been making a stand we eased off in CPs and didn’t transition defensively anywhere near at an AFL level. 

But the structures aren’t working either. There is just no feasible way that Jones and Lewis work as our wings. Fritsch isn’t working as a defender. We’ve got three marking forwards who are all out of form and made almost no changes to try to spark them into form. And we still haven’t worked out how to defend the MCG. 

Worst of all though, Goodwin did classic 2018 Goodwin and tried dropping a loose man into defence once we were 5 goals down. Why? Why do that at all, given our flaws, and why do it when it’s too late? Pathetic from Goodwin IMO. 

We’re also carrying the Wagners and Spargo who just aren’t good enough, plus Lewis and Jones who are past it. Too many passengers. 

I’d like to see some new faces but more importantly I want to see a changed approach to team defence.

2 minutes ago, ProDee said:

It's clearly system based.  We're poorly organised.  

Players and coaches out of form.

Nothing has changed since the Preliminary Final thrashing...

1 minute ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Too many vfl level players: Spargo, Frost, Hunt, Hore, C Wagner, J Wagner

Old men past it: Jones, Lewis, Hibberd

That too.

2 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Too many vfl level players: Spargo, Frost, Hunt, Hore, C Wagner, J Wagner

Old men past it: Jones, Lewis, Hibberd

Hore was excellent. Frost was fine. Hunt is trying. 

The rest are woeful. Hibberd is destroying us atm. 

There’s a story in the good book about the wise man building their house on the rock and the foolish man building their house in the sand. When the wind and waves come, the house on the sand falls and the house in the rock stands firm. 

Substitute “House” for confidence and the MFC is the foolish man. Time after time we get confidence from the wrong things (the win against Sydney most recently) and when the heat inevitably comes, we crumble. We’ve been doing it for years and it’s been done by our on field leaders. Until this is fixed we’ll continually underperform. 

I haven't a clue what to say. It's been a terrible day personally with some terrible news this morning and this has really just nailed it. I came to the game today to get a breather from all that was happening today, and the sad part is I don't regret it. Yep that's right, I would still rather get down to the g to see our beloved Dees belted just to escape from reality for a few hours 

Full bellies, that's the bottom line right now. Thinking the improvement comes naturally, fluffing up basic fundamentals. Looks more like 2014 than ever right now.

The gameplan is fundamentally flawed and there is absolutely no point in denying it. When the first 5 of their scoring shots came from 6 inside 50s and we almost always as a result of us pressing high and caught out back? Well, it's time to strip back the BS.Troy Chaplin, I'm not one to call for a man's job but there has to be some serious scrutiny here because otherwise what metrics are we using to measure performance? 

We've talked about this ad nauseam. We get a million inside 50s and never score while they get like an 80 % return. Game over, we just can't compete with that. And just hold off before telling me their efficiency ended at only 55%. Watch the game.

Not even gonna bother potting the poor performers. They know who they are. As for the positive contributors Salem continues to impress. I really liked Marty Gore's game I thought he showed a lot of courage at tense times. Gawn worked hard all game and Harmes was always in there. Fritsch really shows you what he has. In a backline where the pressure is on all the time he always uses it.

That's it from me. I'm not going go say something stupid like I won't be back this season because it's a total lie. Stay strong people. 

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Nothing has changed since the Preliminary Final thrashing...

Yep.

I love Goody, but they've learnt nothing over summer.

At least he won't be telling us that we want to be a humble football club, which I've heard ad nauseum.  I wish we had something to be humble about.

We're all used to this feeling.  It's not like it's anything new for a Melbourne supporter.  You'll all survive.  2019 is over.  Alas, I'm still bullish about the future.    

34 minutes ago, olisik said:

Only reason I blame Goodwin is because his keeping Chaplin around. Personally I don’t mind Goodwin but if he doesn’t have the balls to sack Chaplin then the heat will come.

Yes yes yes

Blowtorch time on coaches and players.  Supporters now need to hear the brutal truth from the club.  I want a membership refund!

Tonight we saw the Melbourne Brand 

42 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

[censored] Poor pre season, [censored] poor trading, [censored] poor coaching staff, [censored] poor hierarchy, [censored] poor prelim review.

Everything is [censored] poor.

 

None of it is satisfactory for MFC Members and fans. We spend millions and continue to support the Club after every one of our very long list of disappointments. The players look to be anything but ready for the season and onfield, have next to no idea what is required. Coaching is obviously questionable and game planning abysmal. Our star players are drained of energy and mental toughness. Why? 

12 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Do I win a prize?

Yes,

You get to eat the bag of tish our team served up tonight! Congratulations...

Bon appetite ?