13 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

"Melbourne is in danger of missing out on its brightest Next Generation Academy prospect this year, with agile big man Mac Andrew shaping as a top-20 draft bolter."

 

Any chance this club will stand up for itself for once and make sure we get this kid no matter what [censored] rule they recently rushed through?   The Bulldogs got Ugle Hagan at pick 1 for [censored] sake.  Are we just going to continue to get shafted and sit there like a good little club and take it?

I know this used to be the case but in the past 5 years at least we have been strong and held our ground on decisions imo.  have you examples recently where we haven't stood up for ourselves?

I reckon we need to look at more mids in the draft. Outside mids firstly, then wingers and balanced mids.  If we have 3-4 injuries to our midfield, who from casey on the weekend comes in?  I personally don't see Bowey or Laurie ending up in the midfield but I could be wrong. I'd expect Bowey HB and Laurie fwd. Sparrow and Jordon are good depth for inside mid

Also, unless we want Jackson playing 1st ruck if Gawn goes down, I reckon we draft a developing 1st ruck to learn the ropes from Gawny. you usually need to go through a couple of these guys to be successful

1) A Robbie Gray type medium forward (easier said than done obviously) that is damaging up forward but equally so with midfield stints

2) Think we still lack one more genuine outside mid in the Whitfield mould, again not many of that type around but that's the template

Pace and skill. Bailey Smith clone (without the mullet!!) 

We do have a very balanced list so the old best available could be the go, however. 

Midfield run. Still don’t have a real second wing and we need to continue to bring in mid depth in behind our mid 22-25 yo midfield jets.

Developing tall forward.

Mid size half forwards. 

Edited April 21, 20213 yr by big_red_fire_engine

We have heaps of replacements for Hibberd and Jetta, the small back positions would be the last position id be worried about.

We have a shortage of players with tatts, Jones was the only one against the Hawks last week and he's getting on. Another mullet type would add some much needed depth also

Watching the Casey game, we need more midfielders. At centre bounces, we barely had any AFL listed players in there. It was pretty much VDB with cameos from Nev (and Bedford?). I know we've loaded our side with midfield run, but we now lack depth. A developing mid please.

Some talk in the little paper that Ed Richards from the dogs could be looking for fresh opportunities 

Would be a nice addition for outside run as a defender / offensive wing option

Edited April 21, 20213 yr by whatwhat say what
Richards not Philips

27 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

Some talk in the little paper that Ed Philips from the dogs could be looking for fresh opportunities 

Would be a nice addition for outside run as a defender / offensive wing option

*Ed Richards

13 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

We have heaps of replacements for Hibberd and Jetta, the small back positions would be the last position id be worried about.

like who? I can't think of 1 player.  Rivers is a rebounding def, Bowey is too. We have 1 lockdown defender and that's Lockhart and he is fringe. 

19 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We we desperate for him on draft night but Port got in first, so we picked Rivers with our 3rd pick in 2019.

Rivers will be good, but geez he would've been sensational for us.

We were. But so were others. Geelong were set to take him at pick 19 but Port pipped them with pick 18.

Our next pick was 32 (Rivers). We were way off.

18 hours ago, Dr.D said:

So we've traded our first rounder this year right so our first pick at this stage is a 2nd rounder right? it's going to take a bit of creativity to get into the first 20 picks in this years draft I think.

Correct. Our first pick is in the second round and is linked to Brisbane. We traded our own away.

8 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

We have a shortage of players with tatts, Jones was the only one against the Hawks last week and he's getting on. Another mullet type would add some much needed depth also

Harmes should be back soon. Maybe this is where Brayshaw could step up further? Now he is on the outside he does seem a bit like a mummys boy. Some tatts could really improve his image. Nothing soft either... it would need to be an oldschool tattoo. Really think it should be a demon to show how committed he is to the team. Combine it with some 90s style tribal stuff.

2 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Watching the Casey game, we need more midfielders. At centre bounces, we barely had any AFL listed players in there. It was pretty much VDB with cameos from Nev (and Bedford?). I know we've loaded our side with midfield run, but we now lack depth. A developing mid please.

Harmes is injured, Sparrow was the sub and Laurie is injured too. Add Vanders and the 6 on ballers in the team - Gus, Melk, JJ, Viney, Tracc, Oliver and I think we’ve got the right number of centre square options. Versatility is the key for any additions  

THE BEST 23

B: HIBBERD, MAY, LEVER

HB: SALEM, TOMLINSON, HUNT

C: LANGDON, PETRACCA, BRAYSHAW

HF: PICKETT, MCDONALD, MELKSHAM

F: FRITSCH, B.BROWN, WEIDEMAN

FOLL: GAWN, OLIVER, VINEY

IC: RIVERS, SPARGO, NEAL-BULLEN, JACKSON

SUB: JORDON

 

RESERVES

B: DRAFT PICK, J.SMITH, D.SMITH

HB: BOWEY, PETTY, DRAFT PICK

C: DRAFT PICK, DRAFT PICK, ROSMAN

HF: LAURIE, DRAFT PICK, CHANDLER

F: BEDFORD, DAW, DRAFT PICK

FOLL: DRAFT PICK, HARMES, SPARROW

IC: MID SEASON PICK, MID SEASON PICK, HORE, NEXT YEAR'S MID SEASON PICK

 

Jones, vandenBerg, Neitschke, Baker, M.Brown, Jetta, Lockhart, Bradtke all delisted.

 

We need 2 back flankers, a winger, a centreman, a centre half forward, a small forward and a ruckman.

 

 

I dont think Tomlinson is an ideal CHB and Petty so far isnt a compelling replacement.

When we have more 2m tall fwds to cover we will need more tall defensive options.

20 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

This is the Mac Andrew article.

Trust that the year we finally have a gun NGA the rules doesn't work I out favour..

Can someone pm me the article please.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/nab-league-rankings-demons-academy-member-mac-andrew-among-top-victorian-draft-performers/news-story/4e8960e9ebcedebcd38ae31cca0f5c40%3famp

He had a really good game which is when the articles were written and then has been good but not setting the world on fire. Interesting to see what happens with the championships, because he'd be a few down the line for the ruck spot for Vic Metro, but those in front of him are 19 and should be taken mid year.

I see Lockhart taking over the lockdown small defender role from Nev and Hibberd. He looked really composed last year. 

On 4/21/2021 at 1:15 PM, In Harmes Way said:

Another half a dozen inside mids should do it.

nah just given vanders a 2-3 year extention ;P

15 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

We have a shortage of players with tatts, Jones was the only one against the Hawks last week and he's getting on. Another mullet type would add some much needed depth also

harmsey will be back soon and kozzy is adding by the month atm u just can't see them too well also gawny hides his under his shin guard

9 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

Some talk in the little paper that Ed Richards from the dogs could be looking for fresh opportunities 

Would be a nice addition for outside run as a defender / offensive wing option

if he leaves its for the pies imo

i want a couple talls to develop, a key defender to sit 4th in line where joel smith is now coz he is probably out the door and a forward to move past tmac, mbrown and daw. this is where mac andrews would be so ideal.

then its the wing spot that we've been struggling with followed by a HB flanker who can intercept given hore's injury history and nev/hibbos age

 

As Jim Cleary used to say All that is need is a couple of big chaps who can run, jump, take a nice mark and kick a big goal.  (What team doesnt need that)

A replacement for Gawn; onballers, if they dont work out run them from the flanks and chf, if no good then play at chb.

Simples.

 

Is there anything stopping us from trading next years 1st round pick for someone 1st round pick this year, i.e. someone like GWS who traditionally end up with 3 or so picks in the first round.

9 hours ago, BAMF said:

Harmes should be back soon. Maybe this is where Brayshaw could step up further? Now he is on the outside he does seem a bit like a mummys boy. Some tatts could really improve his image. Nothing soft either... it would need to be an oldschool tattoo. Really think it should be a demon to show how committed he is to the team. Combine it with some 90s style tribal stuff.

If he sets himself, the classic but still classy Love Hate knuckle tattoos aren't out of his reach and could be the difference in inking himself a new deal

2 hours ago, Deecisive said:

Is there anything stopping us from trading next years 1st round pick for someone 1st round pick this year, i.e. someone like GWS who traditionally end up with 3 or so picks in the first round.

No issue with trading our future 1st as far as I'm aware

Edited April 22, 20213 yr by adonski