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Just now, monoccular said:

Not buying any dangerous tools, hopefully. 

In the painting area, so relatively safe ( as long as he's not planning on climbing up a ladder)

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7 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Apart from J Smith I’d expect all of them to kick more than the nominated amount, especially McDonald. It wouldn’t be great if he went backwards this season.

ANB will be up around 30 again too , kicked 27 last season.

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I disagree with the premise that Weideman is the 'new Hogan'.  If anything, McDoanld will be playing a role more similar to what Hogan has played in the past, in addition to be our main-man up forward; T-Mac is the new Hogan.  Weideman will be a player who anchors our forward line and straightens up our forward entries.  I don't think his success this year can be measured in individual goals, but rather his role in the functioning forward half.  (With that said, 2 goals per game would be a massive return from a very young KPF.)

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29 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

In the painting area, so relatively safe ( as long as he's not planning on climbing up a ladder)

So he's primed for the start of the season. 

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4 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

Ladies and gents. Today I saw Sam Weideman in a hardware store and shook his hand, wishing him all the best for the season ahead. He seems like a really personable and pleasant young man. Despite being bailed up by a bogus looking bloke, he smiled and thanked me. 

The last Demon player whose hand I shook was Clayton Oliver ( and look how that's turning out )

Could be a big year for Sam !!

Have you ever considered moving Sth... Pdee ?

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All good points made by "Weed lovers"!

we all knew what the " Hogan type role " is and that's to kick about 2 goals per game.

What Sam brings is a more traditional role with some surety in marking leading and bringing the ball to the ground fir our other forwards preferably  crumbers. Also a small diminishing hopefully ruck assistance occasionally to Gawny and Pruess if and when he gets his chance. Sam also can mark around the ground not necessarily as good as Hoges.

The big difference will be not that Sam May kick more goals in his career than Jesse but he craves and prospers on a big stage (ie big games and finals) whereas Hoges was all lost and bothered vs the big  clubs and games hence the about 1 goal per game ave in blockbusters and finals when you need hiM to stand up.

Assustance in goals will come from 

Tommy Mac 50/60 

Smithy 30/35

Milkshake 30

Trac 30 (if accuracy more maybe)

ANB 25 easy goals 

AVB 20 tough goals

Pruess anD Maxy 25 marking/kicking goals.

Clarry/Angus resting 20 plus depending upon time up forward.

and crumbers Spargs Jeffy Hannan And say Chandler/Bedford  Hunty 35 or more total.

Versatile players like wingers and other mids Stretch Jack V Jonesy Salem will also feature.

The backline will be meaner as the season goes on with May and Lever finding their feet and a lot tougher hopefully without suspensions.

So Sam needs to play his role some days a lazy 2 and others will get 3 or 4 because of his superb kicking.

 Good base to structure enough wins for a Top4 position to launch our flag attempt.!

 

 

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One thing Hogan does have that I think we may miss is that smart lateral movement in the forward line. When he gets the drop on his opponent, gets him going one way and goes the other to mark the football. He did it a couple of times in the second JLT for Freo and made me think, who else can do that for us now?

Tmac and Weed are more straight line charge at the ball types, I think we are a bit one dimensional with those two as key targets. Perhaps a player like Petracca could provide this when he plays forward.

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2 hours ago, sisso said:

One thing Hogan does have that I think we may miss is that smart lateral movement in the forward line. When he gets the drop on his opponent, gets him going one way and goes the other to mark the football. He did it a couple of times in the second JLT for Freo and made me think, who else can do that for us now?

Tmac and Weed are more straight line charge at the ball types, I think we are a bit one dimensional with those two as key targets. Perhaps a player like Petracca could provide this when he plays forward.

Agree, Petracca, Hunt and Melksham will be super important this year.

 

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1 hour ago, The Stigga said:

Agree, Petracca, Hunt and Melksham will be super important this year.

 

Hunt... 😂😂😂😂

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The big difference will be not that Sam May kick more goals in his career than Jesse but he craves and prospers on a big stage (ie big games and finals) whereas Hoges was all lost and bothered vs the big  clubs and games hence the about 1 goal per game ave in blockbusters and finals when you need hiM to stand up.

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All good points, re big games, though in fairness Jesse never had the opportunity to stand up or not in a final. 

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1 hour ago, The Stigga said:

Agree, Petracca, Hunt and Melksham will be super important this year.

 

It would be interesting, getting the speed drop on his opponent/s with appropriate and general shepherding/clearance from teammates, if Hunt, playing at deep forward (pocket?) could lead to receive near goal, similar to Melksham and sometimes, Petracca. There could well be many entrances converted to goals; there could be an avenue or two when this might occur.

Hunt could play a role in this as he is faster than - and an equally strong kick as - Rioli, for example.

Straight leads from the bigger forwards are more likely to be of less depth and rely heavily on 'the big grab'; furthermore, the 'bigs' whilst nicely accurate, equally need support at ground level to both receive and create ball possession opportunities in fwd positions and additionally, will be less likely to make rapid changes of direction or prove desirably evasive as a well-coached Hunt (hint, hint). The above three are vital in all of these regards. It would also enhance our 'chaos' style of game that has fallen down in the past in the 'very likely' scoring zones. 

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1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Hunt could play a role in this as he is faster than - and an equally strong kick as - Rioli, for example.

 

Cyril Rioli??

Hunt would be faster than Cyril Rioli in a straight line, but the rest of your sentence is not accurate. Cyril is quicker on the turn, has an amazing side step, reads the play faster than Hunt and is a much better kick,  particularly under pressure.

Cyril has the runs on the board over a longer career and under much bigger games too.

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55 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Cyril Rioli??

Hunt would be faster than Cyril Rioli in a straight line, but the rest of your sentence is not accurate. Cyril is quicker on the turn, has an amazing side step, reads the play faster than Hunt and is a much better kick,  particularly under pressure.

Cyril has the runs on the board over a longer career and under much bigger games too.

Yes, you are probably correct about the agility outside a straight line. I'd like to think that Hunt could learn to change direction and side step that will add to his capacity to read the game. Hannan and Spargo may have to do it all. :-)

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Sam is a fantastic young man , had plenty of chats with him and even at the player sponsorship a week or so ago 

he seems very happy at melbourne and cant see him leaving once he gets this new deal done .... 

Very easy to talk too and very open , very much like Steven May, quite forth coming. 

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Sam has the potential and showed it in the the first two finals and that is where he became a man so to speak.  IMO if you stand up in Finals you are on the way to making the grade no doubt.  The Weid is ready  for his breakout year and at his age he has  the scope for improvement.

The bounce is not too far away for the start of the season and am hanging out to see him take big marks and kick many goals in 2019 and beyond.

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A couple of stints at CHB wouldn’t do him any harm either. Was instrumental in the making of David Neitz and the reinvention of TMac.

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13 hours ago, nosoupforme said:

Sam has the potential and showed it in the the first two finals and that is where he became a man so to speak.  IMO if you stand up in Finals you are on the way to making the grade no doubt.  The Weid is ready  for his breakout year and at his age he has  the scope for improvement.

The bounce is not too far away for the start of the season and am hanging out to see him take big marks and kick many goals in 2019 and beyond.

It is all good for the Weed. I'd still like to see more duality in his play, however. Taking the big speccy is great, but not high percentage football. The strike-rate is affected in packs.

It would be good to see the Weed exploit his ground skills, as well, weaving around packs and exploiting his remarkable kicking/hand-balling skills.

Pack mentality could be reduced as it limits his application of skills - he is a smart fella and could engage more often in leads and decoys as we have timber in our deep forward line for 'the bombs'; an alternative to this style of play would greatly benefit our team with a bloke like the Weed coming out at good pace to receive, not statically await the incoming crush of spoilers and ordnance of the leather variety. 

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On 3/17/2019 at 10:57 PM, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I disagree with the premise that Weideman is the 'new Hogan'.  If anything, McDoanld will be playing a role more similar to what Hogan has played in the past, in addition to be our main-man up forward; T-Mac is the new Hogan.  Weideman will be a player who anchors our forward line and straightens up our forward entries.  I don't think his success this year can be measured in individual goals, but rather his role in the functioning forward half.  (With that said, 2 goals per game would be a massive return from a very young KPF.)

Agree.  Also he can ruck.  hopefully he develops more in this area as it is a great advantage to have a big man who can back up Max. And we wouldn't need Pruess then.Weed, TMac and Pruess is too tall up fwd and not mobile enough imo

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No pressure Sam. Just kick 45 and win a few hitouts.

Oh … and star in the finals.

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18 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

No pressure Sam. Just kick 45 and win a few hitouts.

Oh … and star in the finals.

And win a Norm Smith.....

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19 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

No pressure Sam. Just kick 45 and win a few hitouts.

Oh … and star in the finals.

Ambitious goal for round 1, but ok, I’m on board with it...

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1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

He just needs to hold his marks and not run under the ball so much.

Maybe the mids can start kicking it to where he is running and not over his head so much 

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46 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

Maybe the mids can start kicking it to where he is running and not over his head so much 

No, he runs under the ball.

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53 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

Maybe the mids can start kicking it to where he is running and not over his head so much 

That type of delivery would make Weed a star - he has gathering skills to burn, but is not so strong in the pack.

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