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@Nick_Bowen Former Kangaroo small forward Corey Wagner expected to get to Melbourne under new pre-season selection rule

I didn't see much of Corey this year but the Casey Demons have mentioned he's been a good player down there. I know some of his games he was winning big numbers in the midfield.

Outside midfielder who has a big motor and can see him slotting in well on the wing position. 

 

Reckon this will be a nice get.  Liked Corey in his draft year, had zip and made things happen, should be good depth in an area where we need it (outside run).

Ended up going the pick after Mitch King in 2015. Another tick for the Casey partnership as well.

VFL: Corey Wagner’s AFL journey

 

Will be depth at best.

If either of the Wagner's jump in to our 22, it will mean some players have gone significantly backwards, and I will worry about our finals chances, let alone a flag chance.

 Corey Wagner is a very good inclusion to our list as IMO is better than an average player and that is what we need . Adding players that   can make the grade and make us a better team with very good depth. The Roos  delisted him in 2017 which was a surprise delisting.


Is he related to Josh?

18 minutes ago, DeezNuts said:

Is he related to Josh?

Distant full brothers on both sides.

 

Great news. Certainly impressed at Casey Demons.  Agree depth player but could prove handy.  Brings intensity which is always needed.  

Happy we've taken advantage of this rule, sounds like he was great at Casey and was a pretty high pick in his draft so must have some talent there.


I'm happy with that, important to have the depth with his type. Was likely to get drafted so it's a good swift move. 

Good stuff. Played some pretty amazing games for Casey this year that made me think that North should never have delisted him. Glad he's getting another shot at it.

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1 hour ago, The Chazz said:

Will be depth at best.

If either of the Wagner's jump in to our 22, it will mean some players have gone significantly backwards, and I will worry about our finals chances, let alone a flag chance.

Or... one of the Wagners has gone significantly forwards...

45 minutes ago, Drunkn167 said:

Good stuff. Played some pretty amazing games for Casey this year that made me think that North should never have delisted him. Glad he's getting another shot at it.

Totally agree, injury riddled time at Roos, reckon we said have a year or 2 at Casey and we will have a close look

Already knows game plan and systems

 

2 hours ago, The Chazz said:

Will be depth at best.

If either of the Wagner's jump in to our 22, it will mean some players have gone significantly backwards, and I will worry about our finals chances, let alone a flag chance.

Tend to agree, although I think Tyson's spot is there for the taking. One of Kolodjashnij or Hunt could step straight in, but Wagner could keep them honest.  Probably better suited to that role than Tyson in a direct comparison.


1 hour ago, layzie said:

I'm happy with that, important to have the depth with his type. Was likely to get drafted so it's a good swift move. 

Agree, we haven't really been tested too much injury wise over the past two seasons.  The one period when we really were around the mid way point of 2017 when we lost Jones, Viney eventually  (probably playing when he shouldn't have), one or two others and our season really slumped at that point.  With good depth we can rest more players when they really need it and even those one or two extra wins that it might win us in a season could be the difference between finishing 4th instead of 6th etc.

1 hour ago, TheoX said:

Happy we've taken advantage of this rule, sounds like he was great at Casey and was a pretty high pick in his draft so must have some talent there.

Agreed, but it does concern me that all these delisted free agent type signings are creating a backdoor to bypass the draft.  Are their salery and football department type caps in the state leagues?

It's good that we have been able to capitalise on this opportunity, but in the long run, I worry that the wealthy clubs of the AFL will be able to afford to support more of the better players remaining at state league level in order to later cherry pick the best ones at the expense of clubs like the MFC.

1 hour ago, TheoX said:

Happy we've taken advantage of this rule, sounds like he was great at Casey and was a pretty high pick in his draft so must have some talent there.

A player for free effectively. We would have drafted him late but now we get for nothing. Could flourish and become a decent player, if not, nothing lost!


As a bigger picture strategy, by giving opportunities to players who show great Casey form to get on our AFL list we are going to encourage higher quality players to come to Casey and benefit from our MFC/Casey development and structures. It will be interesting to see what happens with Jay Lockhart in this year's draft.

21 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Agreed, but it does concern me that all these delisted free agent type signings are creating a backdoor to bypass the draft.  Are their salery and football department type caps in the state leagues?

It's good that we have been able to capitalise on this opportunity, but in the long run, I worry that the wealthy clubs of the AFL will be able to afford to support more of the better players remaining at state league level in order to later cherry pick the best ones at the expense of clubs like the MFC.

The state leagues certainly have salary caps. Not sure how it works for AFL sides. I will say that I don't think AFL teams are going to load up with delisted players in their reserves. Aside from the expense it takes away development opportunities for your own young players. 

I think this rule favours the WA and SA teams more than anyone else. They have strong local leagues to watch a number of delisted and undrafted players in and can then offer them a second chance without needing to relocate. The VFL isn't 5 times stronger than the SANFL/WAFL, nor is the NEAFL as strong as those leagues.

Still, it will more be about opportunity. Brooksby the ruckman is off to West Coast because they have an opportunity greater than what other teams can offer. As far as I can tell he has no links to Perth or the Eagles, he's just going to a team that wants him.

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Interesting photo.

In the Casey GF, one tried his guts out all game and the other had a magnificent one possession after quarter time and looked like he couldn't give a rat's. If not for the pathetic game by the Casey captain, he would have been WOG, worst on the ground.

Sad fall from grace.

Looks to have one year left to try and keep his AFL career.

 
4 hours ago, The Chazz said:

Will be depth at best.

I'd prefer to reserve my judgement on any player like Corey and give them a chance without making instant prognostications. A few years ago we might have said that about James Harmes and Neville Jetta.,


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