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1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

I wonder if GWS would be willing to let Cameron go for a third/fourth rounder?

Way overs, your not suggesting Josh should bend over again?

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I expect to see Gawn rest forward a lot more this year due to Preuss coming on board. Big Max floating in for clunks and Tom and Weed providing some good leads will be a mare for opposition to match up on. 

No need to look for another tall imo. 

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There is of course another way to view this

We were the highest scoring team with 2299 for ....and 1749 against...  % of 131

Even if we managed to effectively kick one goal less a game...or 132 points less for  2167 for   

BUT with a better defence saved 2 goals a game.... that would be 264 less   for 1485

we would have a percentage of  145.9 !!!   not only that but we would have won 3 more games possibly.

Thats SECOND on the ladder !!!!

Its not so much about supposedly replacing 47 goals...as much as playing smarter and better.

 

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1 hour ago, DeeZee said:

With May back , it gives us the flexibility to try Joel Smith forward and maybe even OMac or Frost.

Tim Smith another option.

We tried Joel Smith forward a couple of times this year including in the 2nd half of the PF.  He has that incredible genetic leap and is fast and a good tackler so his defensive capabilities are sound.   It will be interesting to see if he's training with the forwards next year. 

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I don’t see the need to play 3 genuine talks.

TMac and Weid along with a range of mediums and smalls is more than enough.  In fact, it’s the structure we successfully employed after the Sydney match and kicked a winning score against West Coast, GWS, Geelong and Hawthorn.

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3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I don’t see the need to play 3 genuine talks.

Agreed.

Though. It's good to have the option. Looking at how WC did it this year, I'd have liked to keep Hogan for that reason. In most areas of the field most teams have options to match up. Not too many serious KP defenders though.

The OP may have forgotten TMac, but the question is a good one. How do you replace Hogan, and don't say Weed. He's not that good.

Personally I'm bullish about the Fritsch, Spargo, Tracca, Melksham types. Also whoever we grab in what will be a big draft this year. No reason why you can't look to smaller players to share the load.

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5 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I don’t see the need to play 3 genuine talks.

TMac and Weid along with a range of mediums and smalls is more than enough.  In fact, it’s the structure we successfully employed after the Sydney match and kicked a winning score against West Coast, GWS, Geelong and Hawthorn.

Maybe we could ask that only two speak at a time

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11 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

Agreed.

Though. It's good to have the option. Looking at how WC did it this year, I'd have liked to keep Hogan for that reason. In most areas of the field most teams have options to match up. Not too many serious KP defenders though.

The OP may have forgotten TMac, but the question is a good one. How do you replace Hogan, and don't say Weed. He's not that good.

Personally I'm bullish about the Fritsch, Spargo, Tracca, Melksham types. Also whoever we grab in what will be a big draft this year. No reason why you can't look to smaller players to share the load.

Hadn't forgotten TMAC. I mean't TMac/Weed become our 2 KPF's, so perhaps the better question was: Who is our depth KPF given many have asked "what if Weid or Tmac get injured? Tim Smith is not the greatest option long term. Fair enough we spread the goal kicking load and also use Gawn/Preuss. Just thought an additional player that can play 3rd tall but fill in the gap with an injury, would be handy. A player in a similar style to Josh Bruce. I never saw Preuss/Gawn as the prototypical permanent forward, but perhaps Cox has changed the FD's mind.

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37 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

There is of course another way to view this

We were the highest scoring team with 2299 for ....and 1749 against...  % of 131

Even if we managed to effectively kick one goal less a game...or 132 points less for  2167 for   

BUT with a better defence saved 2 goals a game.... that would be 264 less   for 1485

we would have a percentage of  145.9 !!!   not only that but we would have won 3 more games possibly.

Thats SECOND on the ladder !!!!

Its not so much about supposedly replacing 47 goals...as much as playing smarter and better.0

 

come on Beeb. you know not to bring logic to the demonland table..... 

:lol:

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7 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Hadn't forgotten TMAC. I mean't TMac/Weed become our 2 KPF's, so perhaps the better question was: Who is our depth KPF given many have asked "what if Weid or Tmac get injured? Tim Smith is not the greatest option long term. Fair enough we spread the goal kicking load and also use Gawn/Preuss. Just thought an additional player that can play 3rd tall but fill in the gap with an injury, would be handy. A player in a similar style to Josh Bruce. I never saw Preuss/Gawn as the prototypical permanent forward, but perhaps Cox has changed the FD's mind.

Ah gotcha. Misread.

For me it's pretty simple. TMac and Weed will take the lions share. Preuss and Gawn will be attempted until they realise neither can play major time forward if you want to win. Preuss they'll look at as a Cox type. Which drives me NUTS.

But yeah. We have that many picks, 7 at time of posting, you'd have to assume there'd be a number of KP players.

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The club has a high opinion of Harry Petty who was tossed to the wolves when not ready in his one AFL game against St Kilda. He was recruited as a key position defender who also played forward in his junior days. 

With Steven May coming to the club and Jake Lever set to return, it might be worth trying Petty up forward.

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6 minutes ago, jako13 said:

come on Beeb. you know not to bring logic to the demonland table..... 

:lol:

Sorry >>>>>>>>>>naughty corner for me 

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Garlett is worth 40+ goals a season. Give him a nice bit of fluffy encouragement and he might just perform. 

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I think many here are missing the point. No team keeps all their best players on the paddock the whole year. The smart teams manage a list with talent in reserve.  So say T Mac misses another 2 months with foot problems. Is Weid alone our power forward and path to a premiership? 

Hogan was contracted and agreed to play for at least another year (perhaps more). You don't let player like that go....ever, unless absolutely no alternative!

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57 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

We tried Joel Smith forward a couple of times this year including in the 2nd half of the PF.  He has that incredible genetic leap and is fast and a good tackler so his defensive capabilities are sound.   It will be interesting to see if he's training with the forwards next year. 

An incredible genetic leap means sfa because he hardly holds any marks: much as I love the guy.

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With Jesse gone I think the idea is to make our forward line more flexible and unpredictable. TMac (if able to stay on the park) has proven himself to be a very good marking forward, he is the key. If he stays fit I’m not worried. 

Weiderman still has a lot of development in him but with Jesse moved on games will come more frequently. The end to the year will surely give him confidence, he just needs to bulk up. 

As many have also pointed to we have recruited Preuss and I feel like this is what the club earmarked him for, allowing he and Maxy resting time in the forward line. I expect Max to kick more goals next year as a result, and who knows Preuss come become a cheeky valuable forward/ruck for us. 

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