Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

2 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

He just guesses. 

I think literally everyone is guessing.

[DV8 2,271]

25 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

i guess thats good. but considering pick 5 and 6 won't happen we will still have to wait for free to trade to get a pick in the teens so we are still ages away

Picks 5 & 6, or NO DEAL.

For Hogan,,, and a face-saver future 2019 2nd Rnd pick.

[Dodos Demons 235]

38 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Movement at the station:

SEN reporting that Neale deal will get done with 2018 #5 and #32 from the Lions.

Hopefully, just a matter of time now!

 

Edit:  not suggesting we accept those for Jessie, see them as a starting point.

Would Freo do a deal to trade out Neale without simultaneously doing a deal to trade Jesse in? Why trade out Neale without getting some candy in return to sell hope to the members??

maybe the deal was leaked by Brisbane and now it puts the pressure back on Freo to secure Hogan if they are losing Neale. 

Interesting times indeed. 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

Hogan is a contracted gun forward that we don’t have to trade. Fremantle are in desperate need of a gun forward. Stick to our guns. 

Edited October 10, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[reynolds46 1,272]

is he there yet?

[Dr.D 1,771]

i just want to get rid of Hogan. Grossly overrated and doing well without him has been no coincidence. Trade him for may and be done with it and win the flag next year.

[Demonland 73,140]

43 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We don’t have to get used to anything. 

Hogan can play for the MFC next year

Freo can get f$&@d

Do not bend over. 

I did give both of the choices for us to get used to. We either accept that Freo aren't going to sell the farm for Hogan or we keep Hogan and go through another year of speculation and then possibly lose him for less next year.

[olisik 4,060]

Seems Freo dont want to pay for quality.

Like someone going into a Lambo shop with a $5000 budget. Time wasters.

[beelzebub 23,383]

34 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Of course not and didn't mean to imply such!  Just a starting point. Mahoney asked for high end picks.  Can't bend over to 1 high pick and late 2nd round pick. 

#5 and a pick in the 8-14 range (2018 or 2019) +/- later pick trade, Freo favour.

Didn't mean to imply you did. Just piggybacking off that 'news'

Well...the 5 is a start. I noted elsewhere there most likely be something with it ( of course )

I still lean to a player. Intriguing.

[deebug 1,754]

Freo can go and get #&^$$@* 

[Demonland 73,140]

Can we please dispense with reacting to comments you don't agree with by calling the poster an idiot or similar.

[samcantstandya 1,057]

21 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

i just want to get rid of Hogan. Grossly overrated and doing well without him has been no coincidence. Trade him for may and be done with it and win the flag next year.

Can't  give him away that would be stupid.

[sisso 2,580]

I hope he stays just to annoy the "supporters" who dont like him

[The Chazz 4,077]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

I just cannot see us getting this despite us all wanting this.

Freo will not give us this particularly with Lobb in their sights.

If we don't budge on this point then I think Freo will take their chances next year going head to head with the Eagles.

We're going to have to get used to either taking a first rounder and a player/later pick or Jesse staying for the year and then leaving us next year when we'll get less.

I think we set somewhat of a precedence last year when giving up 2 x first rounders for Lever.

Personally, if a trade is to take place, I can see;

Out; Hogan

In; Pick 6 (2018 - presuming they get that for Neale), 2019 1st Round

I would then try and trade our 2019 1st Round pick to Gold Coast for May (would require a combination of other picks too, possibly including our 2nd Round pick this year).  Means we will keep Pick 6 for this year, and then have Freo's 1st pick next year (Pick 1 hopefully, but realistically 2-8).

[Demonland 73,140]

3 minutes ago, sisso said:

I hope he stays just to annoy the "supporters" who dont like him

I just want him to stay so I don't have to update the banner or podcast logo.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I just want him to stay so I don't have to update the banner or podcast logo.

Priorities.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,088]

2 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Now confirmed , the Basil Zempelis report was a tele prompter error.

An absolute fiasco.

So the outgoing intern played a joke...

[Little Goffy 14,639]

Ha ha ha, would be quite hilarious if Freo baulked and Jessie stays here where he is loved and appreciated so well by all (just as soon as this thread is deleted).

I can see it now, Hogan to stay with Melbourne, declares "Fremantle have shown they aren't going anywhere, so I'm not going anywhere near them'".

The way it is starting to sound, Peter Bell seems to think that the motto 'act like a champion to become a champion' includes expecting players to come to your club on favourable terms as if you are a well-run unified premiership contender. Which is fine if you are any of those things, but they aren't, so just look silly and insulting.

Next Hogan quote "I'm staying with Melbourne, where I have close bonds, where I'm wanted, and where I'll be part of a well-run unified premiership contender".

And finally "I have a lot of respect for Matthew Richardson but I don't want to emulate his career"

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

How about if Freo dont want to cough up this year that's fine, they can have Hogan for pick 5 and we can accept their 2019 1st Round & 2nd round picks. 

So they can still do their business for Rory Lobb @ pick 6.

They will still be turd next year and we possibly get picks close range 4 to 7 and low 20's. 

Then we can hold Port to ransom for pick 5.

 

Edited October 10, 2018 by Win4theAges

[binman 43,759]

45 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Hogan is a contracted gun forward that we don’t have to trade. Fremantle are in desperate need of a gun forward. Stick to our guns. 

I hope we keep our gun.

[sue 9,142]

A "tele-prompter error" reminds me of the old "computer error" excuse.   

I am impressed that AI has now got so advanced in tele-prompters that the device is deducing the news in advance of it happening.

[binman 43,759]

42 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

i just want to get rid of Hogan. Grossly overrated and doing well without him has been no coincidence. Trade him for may and be done with it and win the flag next year.

Ironic since getting Hogan to the club was the only positive thing your Avatar sake did for the club.

You good doctor are the gift that keeps giving. 

[kryton101 404]

49 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Hogan is a contracted gun forward that we don’t have to trade. Fremantle are in desperate need of a gun forward. Stick to our guns. 

That’s a lot of guns

[dl4e 5,851]

So we get 5 and something else for Hogan and waste pick 5 on May. I just don't get it. Make em pay 5 and 6 or next years 1st rounder instead of six. If not they can ge% ^%$#$%. Use 5 on best suited vic in draft not on May.

[Diamond_Jim 12,627]

4 minutes ago, dl4e said:

So we get 5 and something else for Hogan and waste pick 5 on May. I just don't get it. Make em pay 5 and 6 or next years 1st rounder instead of six. If not they can ge% ^%$#$%. Use 5 on best suited vic in draft not on May.

one would need to be desperate to pay pick 5 for May... he comes free next year

Edited October 10, 2018 by Diamond_Jim