On 17/10/2018 at 10:26, daisycutter said:

don't think he got much of a pay rise at all if reports are to be believed and melbourne certainly would have offered him more for an extension.

agree, the family bit is a little odd, with mum (and her family) in adelaide and jessie's 3 siblings having a gap of 12 years on him.

so that leaves his mates and lifestyle in perth?  i dunno. 

Maybe there's more to him leaving than we know dc.

Many of the reasons seem to defy logic. The main one for me is why leave a well run club on the way up for a lowly club with limited delivery inside 50?

I dunno either.

  On 17/10/2018 at 11:13, Dr. Gonzo said:

Freo has history with Croad and Tarrant.

This is where it’s important how you part ways with a player. If heaven forbid it didn’t work out you’d like to think he would prefer a return to us over 3rd club. Dayne Beams is a great example. 

  On 17/10/2018 at 07:40, Dr. Gonzo said:

So happy with my decision not to purchase this a couple of years back

I see Jessy went missing from the profile pic pretty quickly though Dr.

Probably just as well, would have rubbed salt into my wounds every time upon sighting it.

Somewhat understanding of the scenario for all parties, but I can't help feeling that Jessy was the next David Swartz/Jonathan Brown/Scott Thompson type generational gun player that the MFC has just lost.  If we win a premiership, I'll probably care much less, but both would have been better.  Also because we recruited him as an 17 yo, he felt truly like one of ours.  Could still hope he does a Beams I guess.

Edited October 17, 20186 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

Good luck jesse

You're freos problem now 

  On 17/10/2018 at 03:45, Baghdad Bob said:

It really annoys me that people have a go at the disappointed posters.  Hogan is a generational player, he held our aspirational hopes for a long time and we became attached to him.  I can't believe there is anyone not sad to see him go.  Those knocking the disappointed are just jerks.

I wish him all the best and I will not knock those that are disappointed but I want team players who want to bleed for the jumper and their brothers in it. It never felt like that was the case with him.  My view is we will be a better functioning team as we showed without him later in the year and I would not be surprised if his best football has already been witnessed due to physical and mental toll. . 

  On 17/10/2018 at 08:44, faultydet said:

Remember that the gun player you wish for Taylor to pick up, needs to actually be available at that pick.

Granted, he has been amazing with his choices thus far, but we still rely on other recruiters missing the mark.

That is true. But if this draft is deep, and granted there are many key position players early on - Taylor could have a quality mid in store at 23 and 28. Who knows? But he is in the position to do so now. Our needs are met. Taylor can afford to waste a couple picks on footballers who get passed up. If the draft is deep, I am thinking Sloane, Parker and Beams type players. Well built footballers who could immediately make an impact. 

  On 17/10/2018 at 11:09, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

There are some players and player managers that are complete nuffies that would put out some really disrespectful stuff.  I thought the message came across as pretty genuine and classy.  Photo is a nice touch.

Must say I find this all much easier to accept as genuine on Jessies part based on the understanding that he took a pay cut and a fairly modest length of contract.  I still think we got significantly short changed by Freo on draft picks they traded, but also acknowledge that it may have been the best all round result we were ever likely to get in the circumstances.

Definitely handled it with more dignity than another Hogan did

"You fans can stick it, brother!"

 

  On 17/10/2018 at 11:31, big_red_fire_engine said:

I wish him all the best and I will not knock those that are disappointed but I want team players who want to bleed for the jumper and their brothers in it. It never felt like that was the case with him.  My view is we will be a better functioning team as we showed without him later in the year and I would not be surprised if his best football has already been witnessed due to physical and mental toll. . 

Yep, never gonna knock anyone for feeling disappointed. He’s a loss, no doubt about it and deep down I think anyone who cares deeply about this club wanted to see him part of it. We had to do what was best for the next 3-5 seasons, the FD deemed this the way to go. It’s a moment in time and we have no idea how it will pan out.

Spot on....there are a lot of people close to Jessie who wished he was staying in Melb....however I wish him well as he has gone through so much as a young man, but I am SO glad Melb did the deal.

Edited October 17, 20186 yr by Grapeviney
Removed reference to an earlier post

  On 17/10/2018 at 11:40, Dr. Gonzo said:

Definitely handled it with more dignity than another Hogan did

"You fans can stick it, brother!"

 

Hogan is in the building! Oh what’s this? A leg drop on Josh Mahoney! 

  On 17/10/2018 at 11:15, willmoy said:

Yep, got to agree, specially seeing there might be a bit more we do not know....

I don't need to know, I don't want to know, I wish people would stop infuring this as being the case.  My view is that footballers are entitled to their own private lives to remain private.  Unless you are Jessy's, Simon's, Mahoney's or their best mate, then it's too much rumor, speculation and character assination for me.  Jessy and the footy club made the right call as far as they were concerned and that's good enough for me.

I’ve publicly never been a Jesse fan, but having lost my father early, can understand and appreciate his decision. Hope he finds peace with the move and hope we benefit from it.

Im making a bold bold prediction here.. but i wouldn't be surprised if he comes back to the club again one day..

Has signed for 3 years, and still quite close with alot the boys. Success of the dees and enough time to heal his hurt from the family tragedy will get his heart string pulling back to Melbourne again.

I think reality will hit him sometime over the next few years just how good he had it at the dees.

  On 17/10/2018 at 10:21, Lucifer's Hero said:

Quite the opposite:  "Jesse Hogan has taken a significant pay cut to get back to his family in Perth and play for Fremantle".

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hogan-accepts-pay-cut-to-join-fremantle-as-stars-switch-clubs-20181017-p50aa2.html

It makes his decision to go to Freo even more baffling: leaves a team on the brink of success for one at the bottom, takes only a three year deal and a pay cut.  Baffling.

Its no wonder we weren't able to get a better trade deal - much easier to get top picks if player is on a long-term multi $m deal.   Mahoney did a great job getting the deal he did.

I think Jesse's foot is a lot worse than has been speculated thus far.

He was out of contract at the end of 2019 and would've needed to negotiate a new deal and/or entertain offers from rival clubs, potentially at a time where the full extent of his navicular injury has come to light. 

There is definitely an element of Jesse making hay while the sun is still up for him in the sense that he can satisfy all the other off field elements he was after, whilst absorbing a bit of a haircut to his $ and years. 

This is not THE reason but A reason for this trade for mine

  On 17/10/2018 at 11:40, Dr. Gonzo said:

Definitely handled it with more dignity than another Hogan did

"You fans can stick it, brother!"

 

Just hoping that the new World order of Aussie Rules is the MFC dominating the next decade ....decades.

  On 17/10/2018 at 11:59, Fifty-5 said:

You have made some very unpleasant posts in your short time here.

They’re an interesting creature of the night, that’s for sure.. 

  On 17/10/2018 at 07:15, dl4e said:

Nor do I. Did Bennett even play with either of them?

Bennett was one of them, maybe Jakovich another? I'll look it up.

1989 semi final. Geelong 22 18 Melbourne 12.18. but only Bennett. Must be thinking if another game.

Edited October 17, 20186 yr by bush demon
Addition

  On 17/10/2018 at 11:40, Dr. Gonzo said:

Definitely handled it with more dignity than another Hogan did

"You fans can stick it, brother!"

 

I believe Scully was planning on saying that at his presser announcing his arrival at GWS.

Rumor is that Josh Mahoney was talked out of releasing a revised version of this  statement upon the trade going down 

 

The article in The Age suggests that Hogan has had mental health issues since what happened last year, and it certainly explains his dip in form after Queen's Birthday this season. Will miss him dearly, and feel like we were short changed (giving back pick 55 is a kick in the teeth), but its clear the club was hamstrung by a young man desperate to go home and decided that May was the man to bring in as a replacement tall.

  On 17/10/2018 at 14:33, Pirlo said:

The article in The Age suggests that Hogan has had mental health issues since what happened last year, and it certainly explains his dip in form after Queen's Birthday this season. Will miss him dearly, and feel like we were short changed (giving back pick 55 is a kick in the teeth), but its clear the club was hamstrung by a young man desperate to go home and decided that May was the man to bring in as a replacement tall.

Pick 65 is what it is (not 55) and it is not a kick in the teeth, it is a mild bump off the ball, the sort of bump that makes you laugh

  On 14/10/2018 at 10:32, Beetle said:

Rubbish list. Tim Tams are overrated and Caramel Crowns arent even mentioned.

Can’t go past a Soggy Scotch Finger..

  On 17/10/2018 at 14:48, MudDogs Gawn Win.. someday said:

Can’t go past a Soggy Scotch Finger..

Tell you what, those scotch fingers with a chocolate base are blooody dangerous. Can devour a few of those in no time at all!

Edited October 17, 20186 yr by Demon Disciple

Just a few? Amateur!  ?

  On 17/10/2018 at 14:47, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Pick 65 is what it is (not 55) and it is not a kick in the teeth, it is a mild bump off the ball, the sort of bump that makes you laugh

Agree. Trading pick 65 back is hardly worth even reporting.

 

The day after an I am feeling very good about this deal.   The reality is we won two finals without Hogan.   We were less predictable, We will still kick mammoth scores without him.

Adding May and Lever into the backline will be huge.   2019 is the year.