Changes v Eagles - Preliminary Final

[640MD 3,433]

3 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

I think it’s something you get when you’ve been near a Collingwood supporter... 

I think you have to be really really close !   and you have it till you die ?

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

Probably would have been no change anyway but it has been unfortunate that the two VFL finals in which Casey participated were played in such atrocious conditions.

[Pates 9,660]

I can’t see there being any change but if someone where looking shaky in the team I would say it’s Tyson, he just doesn’t seem to handle the heat of finals footy and either turns it over or gets caught very easily. 

His inside grunt work has been good though and he did some important second efforts. He didn’t disgrace himself by any means but if I was looking at a player potentially to be dropped it would be him. 

In terms of who comes in, it’s not like for like but Vince could come in if the club were satisfied he was good to go with the rigours of finals footy. Very tough either way. 

[jnrmac 20,189]

20 hours ago, McQueen said:

If we can get a repeat of round 22 mate it’ll be pretty epic. 

Gonna be tough with JK and JD back in their line up but I reckon we’re a solid chance. 

Agree that we’ll come up short if we stuff about with the pill as much as we did last Friday. 

They'll be worried about Viney.....

Just sayin....

[Chook 15,022]

Darling was in the side last time and got nailed in a fair tackle. Selwood 2 weeks ago, Mitchell last week. All's I'm sayin'.

[Yokozuna 1,004]

Haven’t oksted for a while, and I would like to think my mail this year has been pretty spot on, as my source is very reliable.

Hunt is a big, big chance to come in this week, for Tyson most likely. Want his pace and run for the big ground.

not a certainty, but very possible a this stage of the week.

[What 18,810]

20 minutes ago, Yokozuna said:

Haven’t oksted for a while, and I would like to think my mail this year has been pretty spot on, as my source is very reliable.

Hunt is a big, big chance to come in this week, for Tyson most likely. Want his pace and run for the big ground.

 

Interesting.    Would have Joel Smith in ahead of him.

[layzie 34,013]

Tyson started slow but it would be harsh to drop him. Hunt’s pace would be valuable but all I can think of right now is the number of times we’ve brought him in with high hopes that this is the time it clicks and it doesn’t. 

 

[Adam The God 30,420]

On 9/15/2018 at 4:03 AM, Demon Disciple said:

Sorry Bing, but Smith just doesn't do it for me.

Plus Bailey is a breath of fresh air down back. He's cool under pressure and is a good kick too. At the end of the day it's not up to me........or us.

In GOoDy we Trust

Fritsch was ordinary under pressure again the other night. He's a real worry for me. If I was West Coast, he's the one I'd look to exploit at the back.

[Pitchy 196]

I don't want to change the team, but...

If we lose, it's because Rioli and Ryan carve us up going inside 50. We need more pace across half back to keep up. Salem, Lewis, Jetta are all awesome but they aren't fast. Having Hunt, Joel Smith (or even Garlett in a surprise lock down half back game) come in and close space might be the difference. 

I would push Bailey "Robbie" Fritsch to the wing and drop Tyson in this scenario. 

 

[dee-tox 4,835]

Like the call for Fritsch to play further up the ground.

Not sure Hunt or Smith instill much confidence in me...

[Skuit 10,031]

18 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

Like the call for Fritsch to play further up the ground.

Not sure Hunt or Smith instill much confidence in me...

Perfect assessment dee-tox. 

[Smokey 4,389]

I think Smith for Tyson is a no brainer. And that’s possibly a bit stiff on Tyson, because he wasn’t as bad as some have made him out to be on the weekend. The important thing is we will clearly need Smiths height and speed in the back. Tyson unlucky.

As a side note - I cannot believe I’m reading a few posts on bringing back Hunt or Garlett. Bringing either of these players who have been below average all year and only serviceable at vfl level would be up there with the most ordinary selections I’ve seen in years. 

 

[jackaub 1,402]

I just watched the replay Rd 22

Both Rioli and Ryan cut us to shreds in the third quarter

we had no system to negate them as far as I could determine

The Dees must stop their run and carry

[old55 23,701]

47 minutes ago, jackaub said:

I just watched the replay Rd 22

Both Rioli and Ryan cut us to shreds in the third quarter

we had no system to negate them as far as I could determine

The Dees must stop their run and carry

Ryan had 3 kicks 5 hand passes 1 tackle 1 goal for the day and the goal wasn't in the 3rd quarter.   It's gonna be hard to limit him more than that.

Rioli did kick 3.2 from 6 kicks  which was a damaging return. One goal was in the 3rd.

Maybe like BT you can't tell them apart?

[deanox 9,989]

13 hours ago, Yokozuna said:

Haven’t oksted for a while, and I would like to think my mail this year has been pretty spot on, as my source is very reliable.

Hunt is a big, big chance to come in this week, for Tyson most likely. Want his pace and run for the big ground.

not a certainty, but very possible a this stage of the week.

When you say big ground, are you referring to the ground that is smaller than the one where played on the last 3 weeks?

[SPC 3,552]

I agree with comments about Frisch, he needs to move back to the wing. Smith comes in to replace him in the back half, Tyson out. Solves all our issues- these being pace and disposal off the wing and a good 3rd tall defender. 

“You know it makes sense”

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

I’d be reluctant to make any changes. 

I think the eagles will load up on talls up forward for sure but we are good enough to keep them under control. And it should allow us to rebound if they get it wrong. 

Id stick with Tyson. I think our big strength is midfield depth and I think that’s where we can get on top of the eagles. The backline won’t be as big a concern if we win it out of the middle 

[Dirts 429]

35 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I’d be reluctant to make any changes. 

I think the eagles will load up on talls up forward for sure but we are good enough to keep them under control. And it should allow us to rebound if they get it wrong. 

Id stick with Tyson. I think our big strength is midfield depth and I think that’s where we can get on top of the eagles. The backline won’t be as big a concern if we win it out of the middle 

Agreed!

[bobby1554 1,263]

9 hours ago, Pitchy said:

I don't want to change the team, but...

If we lose, it's because Rioli and Ryan carve us up going inside 50. We need more pace across half back to keep up. Salem, Lewis, Jetta are all awesome but they aren't fast. Having Hunt, Joel Smith (or even Garlett in a surprise lock down half back game) come in and close space might be the difference. 

I would push Bailey "Robbie" Fritsch to the wing and drop Tyson in this scenario. 

 

Rioli and Ryan average 11 possessions a game, less than 2 tackles and about a goal each. I think we have them covered. Would be more concerned with Kennedy and Darling, but that relies on the midfield battle

[Jones 62]

15 hours ago, Yokozuna said:

Haven’t oksted for a while, and I would like to think my mail this year has been pretty spot on, as my source is very reliable.

Hunt is a big, big chance to come in this week, for Tyson most likely. Want his pace and run for the big ground.

not a certainty, but very possible a this stage of the week.

I hope this doesn't happen! Hunt has done NOTHING all year. To come into a Prelim final having no good games or consistency under your belt is a MASSIVE risk. He has been ordinary at best in the 2s.

[Superunknown 4,225]

No offence to Hunt, but based on current form, if they pick Hunt I'll spew

Listening to Age Footy Podcast

Caro: Dees will win. Midfield too good. MFC defence well oiled machine now. Not sure WC midfield will get quality delivery to Kenny/Darling due to Melbourne midfield pressure. WCE didn't earn trust against Collingwood, MFC by 4 goals.

Bob: Demons: momentum too great, too many things going right, something NQR with WCE. Demons by 3 goals.

Gleeson: Melbourne midfield pressure brutal but Demons by 2 goals. Head says Eagles, heart Demons.

Niall: WCE too good, Kennedy/Darling better for run last week, WCE  2 goals.

 

[DemonLad5 1,642]

I’d be on the fence about bringing in Joel Smith for Tyson due to matchups,  but Smith playing his first final in a prelim against 60,000 hostile fans? Nah 

tough week for them decision wise, as we don’t really have anyone to play on the resting ruckman either.

[Bonkers 994]

West Coast may boast that having Kennedy back gives them an advantage since the Rd 22 encounter. I'd say we have them more than covered in the midfield and that is where the game is going to be won. Viney back into the side for this game gives us another player that will worry the Eagles, they weren't able to curtail our midfield 4 weeks ago, what makes them think they will be able to now? It's time to start believing in this Demons side. We have arguably the best contested midfield group in the comp, are the highest scoring side in the comp and over the last 10 weeks I think we have been the best defensive side also. 

No change. Back the guys in that have been doing the job. It's a tough ask to win over there but this side is good enough.

[McQueen 17,867]

Just on the Eagles supporter noise... The more I think about it the less I'm worried about the 'hostile environment' with this team. The noise is deafening in that stadium and the booing is so completely over the top - that's for certain.

But we've withstood that for two years running now and pulled away with two wins under immense pressure. This variable is now small and maybe insignificant for much of the team and coaches and I reckon the media need to realise this as well.