deanox 10,070 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Harmes gave some credit to retiring teammate Bernie Vince for his emergence as a genuine head-to-head midfielder, saying the veteran Demon had helped him grow on and off the field. “He’s taught me a little bit — I probably try to keep my elbows in a bit more than Bernie though." 2 15 Quote
Vagg 2,449 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, deanox said: “He’s taught me a little bit — I probably try to keep my elbows in a bit more than Bernie though." Nothing like a back-handed compliment! LOL 1 Quote
Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,681 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 I reckon he will go to Smith 1 Quote
Gator 18,054 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 I'd prefer Harmes to go to O'Meara. Mitchell is going to do Mitchell stuff and Viney can keep a watch on him if it looks like getting out of hand. Shut down O'Meara and keep Mitchell under reasonable control and it goes a long way to winning the match. 13 Quote
dl4e 5,851 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, ProDee said: I'd prefer Harmes to go to O'Meara. Mitchell is going to do Mitchell stuff and Viney can keep a watch on him if it looks like getting out of hand. Shut down O'Meara and keep Mitchell under reasonable control and it goes a long way to winning the match. That is exactly right. mitchell does stuff all with the ball when he gets it but O'meara is a sneaky little tird who should be watched. Quote
Little Goffy 14,969 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Wow, Harmes is twice the player he was in round 4. In fact, by the numbers he is just shy of being 3 times the player, comparing the EF to Rnd 4! Very, very different scene now. As I see it, Harmes gives us another competent player inside the mess of pressure and tackles. I'm more concerned about that overall weight of struggle than about a specific tag, given that the Hawks must've gone close to the season record for tackles (113) in the round 4 game, which is close to double their normal output. All the talk of methodical and precise Hawthorn is fine and true enough, but they beat us with berserk pressure then, as did Collingwoodand and Richmond, making up our only three losses of any significant margin. Clarkson will know that weakness and the Hawthorn onballers will be under instructions to sacrifice their own game to unsettle and disrupt ours. It wont make so much difference up at half-forward (where it is always a nut-house for us anyway) but from the clearances, and in the general tangle, we're gonna need every competent body we can get or the quick handballs and tap-ons will all be happening knee-deep in brown streaks. 5 Quote
Demonstone 23,587 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said: I reckon he will win the Norm Smith. Fixed it for ya mate. 1 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Harmes going to Mitchell is a waste. Would much prefer him go to Jager or Smith. 1 Quote
CHF 2,825 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 One of our Four Horsemen along with Oliver, Brayshaw and Gawn. 1 Quote
Nasher 33,686 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, CHF said: One of our Four Horsemen along with Oliver, Brayshaw and Gawn. Moloney, Sylvia, McLean, Bell? 1 2 Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, CHF said: One of our Four Horsemen along with Oliver, Brayshaw and Gawn. He has been replaced. 7 1 Quote
praha 11,267 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Mitchell isn't damaging with the ball. You need to hold Bruest and their forward line, and prevent O Meara from getting a run on the outside. Let Mitchell go head to head with our mids I say. He should go to Jaeger. Quote
CHF 2,825 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Watts the matter said: He has been replaced. Viney is just back from a number of weeks on the sidelines still has a way to go to replace Harmes as one of the horsemen. I still have a confident smile when i see footage of Max, Clarrie, Harmes and Brayshaw walking back for a center bounce chatting together. 1 Quote
CHF 2,825 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Nasher said: Moloney, Sylvia, McLean, Bell? These three are more pit ponies than Four Horsemen 1 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, ProDee said: I'd prefer Harmes to go to O'Meara. Mitchell is going to do Mitchell stuff and Viney can keep a watch on him if it looks like getting out of hand. Shut down O'Meara and keep Mitchell under reasonable control and it goes a long way to winning the match. Someone has to take Smith... Harmes has the weapons to do it, not sure who else. ...or stop his supply? Edited September 10, 2018 by rjay Quote
Chook 15,070 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, rjay said: Someone has to take Smith... Harmes has the weapons to do it, not sure who else. ...or stop his supply? Hannan to Smith. Hannan has always reminded me of Smith (obviously Smith is miles better), and this would be a great opportunity to hurt the Hawks' biggest attacking weapon going the other way. Quote
nosoupforme 3,085 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Its getting to a level now that O'Meara will need to find one of our young guns and man him. May it be Angus or Clarry. Harmes will go to T Mitchell and that will be another good scalp for him . Viney well he can just go and get the ball and do his party tricks and rub some noses into the ground. Petracca is due for one of his better games. Too many headaches for the Hawks. Starting to love it. Quote
Captain Todd 171 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, CHF said: One of our Four Horsemen along with Oliver, Brayshaw and Gawn. Brayshaw, Viney, Oliver and Harmes Lets see them escape those tackles. Keep the pressure up with tackles and poor disposal for them. Quote
spalding 1,128 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 And vanders just needs to catch smith once early on. 1 Quote
scarlett 247 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, Chook said: Hannan to Smith. Hannan has always reminded me of Smith (obviously Smith is miles better), and this would be a great opportunity to hurt the Hawks' biggest attacking weapon going the other way. Or Harmes can stop him and hurt him the other way. Viney to mitchell same as ablett, not so much a hard tag just beat him. shiel is the one that got off the leash last time with the focus going to mitchell. Matchup for bruest? Could see smith being an in this week if anyone pulls up sore or us extremely unlucky. Quote
Chook 15,070 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, scarlett said: Or Harmes can stop him and hurt him the other way. Viney to mitchell same as ablett, not so much a hard tag just beat him. shiel is the one that got off the leash last time with the focus going to mitchell. Matchup for bruest? Could see smith being an in this week if anyone pulls up sore or us extremely unlucky. Harmes is too short and slow for Smith, and their body types don't match up. Hannan would be perfect IMO. Smith: 188cm, 83kg Hannan: 189cm, 87kg Harmes: 185cm, 86kg Quote
Roger Mellie 4,205 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, CHF said: These three are more pit ponies than Four Horsemen Chaff bandits Quote
Roger Mellie 4,205 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chook said: Harmes is too short and slow for Smith, and their body types don't match up. Hannan would be perfect IMO. Smith: 188cm, 83kg Hannan: 189cm, 87kg Harmes: 185cm, 86kg Hannan isn't the elite runner that Smith is, particularly with his dodgy knee. Harmes isn't slow either, but I don't think he'll go to Smith (at the start anyway). Quote
Gator 18,054 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 vandenBerg on Smith for me. He has far better pace than given credit for round these parts, he has a great tank, he's the same height, and he can absolutely physically work him over. vandenberg confirmed this morning on SEN that Goody had him playing wing due to his tank and let's face it Smith will only get to use his elite speed on a handful of times and not at all if he's constantly under pressure. I may be wrong, but I could see a vandenBerg matchup. 3 1 1 Quote
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