Harmes gave some credit to retiring teammate Bernie Vince for his emergence as a genuine head-to-head midfielder, saying the veteran Demon had helped him grow on and off the field.

“He’s taught me a little bit — I probably try to keep my elbows in a bit more than Bernie though."

 

7 minutes ago, deanox said:

“He’s taught me a little bit — I probably try to keep my elbows in a bit more than Bernie though."

Nothing like a back-handed compliment!  LOL

I reckon he will go to Smith

I'd prefer Harmes to go to O'Meara.  

Mitchell is going to do Mitchell stuff and Viney can keep a watch on him if it looks like getting out of hand.

Shut down O'Meara and keep Mitchell under reasonable control and it goes a long way to winning the match.  

9 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I'd prefer Harmes to go to O'Meara.  

Mitchell is going to do Mitchell stuff and Viney can keep a watch on him if it looks like getting out of hand.

Shut down O'Meara and keep Mitchell under reasonable control and it goes a long way to winning the match.  

That is exactly right. mitchell does stuff all with the ball when he gets it but O'meara is a sneaky little tird who should be watched.

Wow, Harmes is twice the player he was in round 4. In fact, by the numbers he is just shy of being 3 times the player, comparing the EF to Rnd 4!

Very, very different scene now.

As I see it, Harmes gives us another competent player inside the mess of pressure and tackles. I'm more concerned about that overall weight of struggle than about a specific tag, given that the Hawks must've gone close to the season record for tackles (113) in the round 4 game, which is close to double their normal output.

All the talk of methodical and precise Hawthorn is fine and true enough, but they beat us with berserk pressure then, as did Collingwoodand and Richmond, making up our only three losses of any significant margin.

Clarkson will know that weakness and the Hawthorn onballers will be under instructions to sacrifice their own game to unsettle and disrupt ours. It wont make so much difference up at half-forward (where it is always a nut-house for us anyway) but from the clearances, and in the general tangle, we're gonna need every competent body we can get or the quick handballs and tap-ons will all be happening knee-deep in brown streaks.

1 hour ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

I reckon he will win the Norm Smith.

Fixed it for ya mate.

Harmes going to Mitchell is a waste. Would much prefer him go to Jager or Smith.

One of our Four Horsemen along with Oliver, Brayshaw and Gawn.

26 minutes ago, CHF said:

One of our Four Horsemen along with Oliver, Brayshaw and Gawn.

Moloney, Sylvia, McLean, Bell?

37 minutes ago, CHF said:

One of our Four Horsemen along with Oliver, Brayshaw and Gawn.

 

He has been replaced.

Mitchell isn't damaging with the ball. You need to hold Bruest and their forward line, and prevent O Meara from getting a run on the outside. Let Mitchell go head to head with our mids I say. He should go to Jaeger. 

1 minute ago, Watts the matter said:

 

He has been replaced.

Viney is just back from a number of weeks on the sidelines still has a way to go to replace Harmes as one of the horsemen.

I still have a confident smile when i see footage of Max, Clarrie, Harmes and Brayshaw walking back for a center bounce chatting together.

16 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Moloney, Sylvia, McLean, Bell?

These three are more pit ponies than Four Horsemen

2 hours ago, ProDee said:

I'd prefer Harmes to go to O'Meara.  

Mitchell is going to do Mitchell stuff and Viney can keep a watch on him if it looks like getting out of hand.

Shut down O'Meara and keep Mitchell under reasonable control and it goes a long way to winning the match.  

Someone has to take Smith...

Harmes has the weapons to do it, not sure who else.

...or stop his supply?

Edited September 10, 20187 yr by rjay

3 minutes ago, rjay said:

Someone has to take Smith...

Harmes has the weapons to do it, not sure who else.

...or stop his supply?

Hannan to Smith. Hannan has always reminded me of Smith (obviously Smith is miles better), and this would be a great opportunity to hurt the Hawks' biggest attacking weapon going the other way.

Its getting to a level now that O'Meara will need to find one of our young guns and man him. May it be Angus or Clarry.  Harmes will go to T Mitchell and that will be another good scalp for him . Viney well he can just go and get the ball and do his party tricks and rub some noses into the ground.  Petracca  is due for one of his better games. Too many headaches for the Hawks. Starting to love it.

1 hour ago, CHF said:

One of our Four Horsemen along with Oliver, Brayshaw and Gawn.

Brayshaw, Viney, Oliver and Harmes

Lets see them escape those tackles. Keep the pressure up with tackles and poor disposal for them.

 

And vanders just needs to catch smith once early on. 

38 minutes ago, Chook said:

Hannan to Smith. Hannan has always reminded me of Smith (obviously Smith is miles better), and this would be a great opportunity to hurt the Hawks' biggest attacking weapon going the other way.

Or Harmes can stop him and hurt him the other way. Viney to mitchell same as ablett, not so much a hard tag just beat him. shiel is the one that got off the leash last time with the focus going to mitchell. Matchup for bruest? Could see smith being an in this week if anyone pulls up sore or us extremely unlucky.

4 minutes ago, scarlett said:

Or Harmes can stop him and hurt him the other way. Viney to mitchell same as ablett, not so much a hard tag just beat him. shiel is the one that got off the leash last time with the focus going to mitchell. Matchup for bruest? Could see smith being an in this week if anyone pulls up sore or us extremely unlucky.

Harmes is too short and slow for Smith, and their body types don't match up. Hannan would be perfect IMO.

Smith: 188cm, 83kg
Hannan: 189cm, 87kg
Harmes: 185cm, 86kg

 

1 hour ago, CHF said:

These three are more pit ponies than Four Horsemen

Chaff bandits

2 minutes ago, Chook said:

Harmes is too short and slow for Smith, and their body types don't match up. Hannan would be perfect IMO.

Smith: 188cm, 83kg
Hannan: 189cm, 87kg
Harmes: 185cm, 86kg

 

Hannan isn't the elite runner that Smith is, particularly with his dodgy knee. Harmes isn't slow either, but I don't think he'll go to Smith (at the start anyway). 

vandenBerg on Smith for me.  He has far better pace than given credit for round these parts, he has a great tank, he's the same height, and he can absolutely physically work him over.

vandenberg confirmed this morning on SEN that Goody had him playing wing due to his tank and let's face it Smith will only get to use his elite speed on a handful of times and not at all if he's constantly under pressure.

I may be wrong, but I could see a vandenBerg matchup.