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Mark Neeld

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Things are always darkest before the light

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    4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    The article is, like his coaching, a bit incomplete. It says that Neeld "admitted that in hindsight he should have trusted his own judgment more when implementing the Demons' plan to rebuild once again" but doesn't explain if it wasn't his, whose judgment he did rely on. I suspect there's a fair bit of dissembling going on.

    I hope he can find a proper future. He's never going to be a senior coach again and he probably should never have been one, but I don't for one moment think that he wasn't trying to do his best when he was with us.

    Well, his mentor & referee, was Malthouse.

     

    Who else would he trust for sharing AFL ideas?  Or was there an Inn-House operative?

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    1 hour ago, Unleash Hell said:

    Things are always darkest before the light

    Before the dawn???

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    2 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

    Shut this topic down, dont give clown any sort of air time. 

    A complete waste of space.

    I second that motion.

    All in favour?

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    3 hours ago, america de cali said:

    Lyon, Malthouse and Eade. Freo, Carlton and GC must be happy with their contributions...not. I don’t think any of those guys would have done better than Neeld. They would have added their own spin on disaster. Too much air had to be cleared out from the top.

    I threw those names out the because they were being bandied about at the time. The point is that if you were an experienced senior coach with any sort of nous, you would have avoided that Melbourne job like the plague and clichés. We really could only get someone desperate for a job and that's who we got.

    Would Roos have come to the club had that motley crew been still running the club? I think not.

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    2 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

    I threw those names out the because they were being bandied about at the time. The point is that if you were an experienced senior coach with any sort of nous, you would have avoided that Melbourne job like the plague and clichés. We really could only get someone desperate for a job and that's who we got.

    Would Roos have come to the club had that motley crew been still running the club? I think not.

    $2mill pa. Everyone has their price. Just that we didn't have that to spend until AFL stepped in with money and PJ

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    30 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

    I threw those names out the because they were being bandied about at the time. The point is that if you were an experienced senior coach with any sort of nous, you would have avoided that Melbourne job like the plague and clichés. We really could only get someone desperate for a job and that's who we got.

    Would Roos have come to the club had that motley crew been still running the club? I think not.

    Yes. It was still an AFL Job. Many “Coaches” would have thought “i know how to fix that...”

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    4 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

    I think Jimmy’s problem was he only saw the best in people and that everyone meant well but working life is not always like that unfortunately. 

     

    I don't think Jimmy was that naive 'Earl'...he made some poor decisions and let his ego get the better of him.

    Jobs for the boys nearly killed this club.

    Bailey was an outsider.

    Probably enough of this looking back but it's hard not to get engaged. I still get very angry (and I'm not an angry person) when I think of the damage that was done by the people in control of the club at that time. 

    In the words of the coach, it was a good learning experience (I hope) and we move on to the next game.

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    Can't agree @Sir Why You Little and @Moonshadow

    The past with blokes like Denis Pagan show that if a club is a shambles it doesn't matter how good the senior bloke is. You need everyone on the same page. 

    I'm sure that incident was a big eye opener to a lot of aspiring coaches.

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    3 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

    Can't agree @Sir Why You Little and @Moonshadow

    The past with blokes like Denis Pagan show that if a club is a shambles it doesn't matter how good the senior bloke is. You need everyone on the same page. 

    I'm sure that incident was a big eye opener to a lot of aspiring coaches.

    Yes but an incoming coach with aspirations is going to back the fact that HE can get everyone on that same page

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    He should go down as the worst coach MFC ever had.

     

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    Maybe we can all take a breath and reflect instead upon what a genius Neale Daniher is, and what an incredible achievement it was to have the Demons be contenders through a series of wild swings and chaos in the club's administration and a general failure to provide resources.

    Think of Neale Daniher. Feel a little better. Then maybe tip some coin to fight MND while you're at it.

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    On 7/27/2018 at 8:05 PM, Little Goffy said:

    Y'know, I had an odd thought after reading this.

    Carlton is on one win, with percentage roughly on a par with our lowest ebb under Neeld. But there's something in the 'shape' of that percentage that struck me.

    In 2013, Melbourne suffered 7 massive losses - with margins of 148, 94, 90, 95, 83, 122, and 95.

    In 2018, Carlton have so far only experienced 2, maybe three such losses, depending on your line: 86, 109, and 72.

    And it isn't a case of Carlton's super-low scoring influence the percentage, as 2013 Demons only managed an extra 5 points per game.

    So, it would seem that Carlton are just stodgily losing by boringly substantial margins every single week.

    I'm genuinely curious, what does that mean?

    Impact of 'the great draft thinning' for the new teams back then? A genuinely more even competition now? Carlton being held together a little by their half-dozen excellent veterans? Or are the Demons the only club left that is capable of dishing out a proper walloping? :D

     

    Interesting questions & pondering, and I think we will struggle to know the answers with any great certainty.

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    The thing that gets me about this is the timing. Never a more irrelevant time for him to speak about anything relating to us. 

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    Wow. People forgave Denis Pagan faster than they are letting go of the hate for Neeld. It is starting to get a bit cringeworthy.

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    Are the Supercats making a return to the NBL?

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    35 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

    Are the Supercats making a return to the NBL?

    Any ambition of that has just be thrown out the door...

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    On 7/27/2018 at 4:50 PM, Moonshadow said:

    Yes, Jesse Hogan is his one redeeming action

    Don't you mean Steven May?

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