Match Preview and Team Selection - Round 12

[Adam The God 30,112]

23 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I'd prefer like for like. Hunt hasn't played up forward all season.

I reckon the impending weather conditions might have a say in this. 

[Adam The God 30,112]

1 hour ago, It's Time said:

If Petty was going to play they would have done the video of him being told that they do for every debutant. 

There's still time tomorrow afternoon.

[Demon Disciple 12,063]

I may be in the minority, but Joel Smith just doesn't impress me.

Of course he is no Lever, but still, he leaves me feeling underwhelmed.

[Diamond_Jim 12,527]

5 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

I may be in the minority, but Joel Smith just doesn't impress me.

Of course he is no Lever, but still, he leaves me feeling underwhelmed.

True to say he hasn't been bashing down the door and I think that is why the final selection is still so open. Petty would be a bolter so I suppose it's between Smith and Hunt. Strange Wagner's not in the mix.

[Demon Disciple 12,063]

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Strange Wagner's not in the mix.

I'm actually not disappointed in that. Wagner, as hard as he tries, is very suspect with his disposal.

[WERRIDEE 5,436]

6 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

I'm actually not disappointed in that. Wagner, as hard as he tries, is very suspect with his disposal.

Wagner and Frost's futures are very uncertain can't get a game ahead of a couple of kids in Joel.Smith and Petty.

[Dee tention 616]

OUT - T Smith, Lever, Hannan

IN - Pedo, J Smith, Hunt

 

 

[Go the Biff 3,414]

36 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

I may be in the minority, but Joel Smith just doesn't impress me.

Of course he is no Lever, but still, he leaves me feeling underwhelmed.

I can understand how you remain unimpressed. Most of us I suspect view Smith in terms of what he could be rather than what he currently is. Even the avid Casey watchers who would know his capabilities..

He's a young player with 3 games under his belt. At 22 he still has tons of time to deliver on his potential. If he gets first crack at replacing Lever, it might just be the making of him

[chook fowler 19,444]

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Glad to see you're still here.  I didn't take your resignation from the site seriously due to a one point misdemeanor from moderators, but you never know. 

Be in no doubt that Weideman is highly rated internally and will the future.

Thanks for the reminder

[Deestroy All 14,262]

10 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Interesting that Vince played Jenkins against Adelaide,who is obviously a tall, and beat him well. If he could take a similar in the Pies forward line it would allow us to play a medium sized defender to replace Lever e.g. Wagner 

Lynch not Jenkins. Very different.

[Jaded No More 68,855]

Gawn will need a chop out in the ruck so I assume Pedo is in. Would be so risky to ruck TMac with the foot drama. 

[Deemania since 56 6,607]

10 hours ago, doc roet said:

Tell Pedo that ! 

 

Great to have Pedo onboard, ain't it? A big pack-splitter, a great mark these days, good for 2-3 goals a game, hungry for the game and wins to the MFC. A balanced inclusion making our fwd line terrifying for the Filth. Suspect a very big score this match, now. We have to have something to overcome the umpires' frees for the Filth inside the 50m - that will go on and on all game.

[BigFez 1,440]

1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Great to have Pedo onboard, ain't it? A big pack-splitter, a great mark these days, good for 2-3 goals a game, hungry for the game and wins to the MFC. A balanced inclusion making our fwd line terrifying for the Filth. Suspect a very big score this match, now. We have to have something to overcome the umpires' frees for the Filth inside the 50m - that will go on and on all game.

Are you in fact Cameron Pederson in disguise??

Don't think I've ever seen a bigger fan of anybody!!

FWIW I hope he gets in too and plays a blinder.

[chook fowler 19,444]

6 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

Lynch not Jenkins. Very different.

 My bad

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

Seems like a good day for it.

[Undeeterred 3,118]

9 hours ago, A F said:

I think Hunt is more likely to come in than Jeffy for Hannan. Jayden offers more flexibility, can play at both ends of the ground if required and may well be needed to match up on a Collingwood small forward. We'll see.

That said, I think the most likely outcome is what many are saying and that's Pedersen for Smith and Smith for Lever. I think they'll start Smith as the interceptor, but will rotate between he and Hibberd.

Hunt can't play forward (yet). He even struggles on a wing.

Bringing him and Smith in means we're stuck with seven defenders, meaning Hunt or someone else is forced to play out of position.

No need to do that when we've got perfectly good like for like replacements.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

9 hours ago, A F said:

I reckon the impending weather conditions might have a say in this. 

Seems the forecast is pretty good tho atm. I hope so anyway especially for the Big Freeze and the crowds

[Deemania since 56 6,607]

1 hour ago, BigFez said:

Are you in fact Cameron Pederson in disguise??

Don't think I've ever seen a bigger fan of anybody!!

FWIW I hope he gets in too and plays a blinder.

Yeah BF, I am keen on him as a player because,  from the fence, I look into the players' minds before each stage of their activity and linkage to the rest of the team by whatever method options they might consider, or have as part of their arsenal, or have done, and in this regard, Pedo does it most comfortably well. 

To me, Pedo does it all well for a bigger bloke at just on 194cm and represents one of our best targets when the going gets tough. Have always analysed footy players that way and in particular, just knew what Robbie, for example, was going to do and how he would do it. Almost the same for the Ox, Lyon, Stinger, Icke, Hughes, Alves, and so on but sometimes, pleasantly surprised by their actions and effectiveness. It is into this category that Clarrie resides, for example, in my scrutineer fantasies on footy. 

With Pedo, while we have him before retirement or trade, my Demon buddies and I could not fathom why he was not used more regularly despite the nandy-pandy comments of those who bleat repeatedly with a frighteningly superior blend of wisdom and cant.The emphasis is always on cant and so, it all is of little stimulation in the football appreciation process. 

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Does anyone think Petty will debut on Monday? I’d be both surprised and excited to see the kid if he gets the nod. I’ve seen him once at Casey this year and was very impressed with his composure and skills. 

[Guest]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-06-07/depth-could-see-youthful-inclusion-jones

I get the feeling that we are preparing a path for the debut of Petty.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-08/dees-set-to-unleash-teen-against-pies

"He's an exciting young player. He plays key position and he's really improving as a player and he plays with a competitive spirit. He's someone we're certainly considering closely," Goodwin said.

[Demons11 6,906]

AFL website reporting that Petty might be playing.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,687]

3 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Great to have Pedo onboard, ain't it? A big pack-splitter, a great mark these days, good for 2-3 goals a game, hungry for the game and wins to the MFC. A balanced inclusion making our fwd line terrifying for the Filth. Suspect a very big score this match, now. We have to have something to overcome the umpires' frees for the Filth inside the 50m - that will go on and on all game.

My view is that Pedersen plays really well in his first game back from the VFL with diminishing returns thereafter until he is dropped again. It's also a bit of puffery to claim he's "good for 2-3 goals a game" when he's actually only kicked 69 goals in his 78 games. 

46 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

Hunt can't play forward (yet). He even struggles on a wing.

Bringing him and Smith in means we're stuck with seven defenders, meaning Hunt or someone else is forced to play out of position.

No need to do that when we've got perfectly good like for like replacements.

We always play 7 defenders. Usually 2 talls (Oscar and Lever) and 5 running defenders (Jetta, Lewis, Vince, Hibberd and Salem). 

[Mickey 4,647]

I hope they avoid debuting Petty this week. From the reports it sounded like he had a poor week last week, and I rather a young guy coming in to be playing well. We might be flying but can't flirt with form against an in-form Collingwood

 

[ProperDee 1,698]

12 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Second time in a week you've posted like you know something from the inside that others don't.

Care to elaborate?

Sorry t_u, I don't intend to be obscure. Just being careful. 

TMac pulled up extremely sore after the Dogs game and apparently been on "lighter duties" this week. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

35 minutes ago, Mickey said:

I hope they avoid debuting Petty this week. From the reports it sounded like he had a poor week last week, and I rather a young guy coming in to be playing well. We might be flying but can't flirt with form against an in-form Collingwood

 

I think the club will take into consideration his form in general, not just one week.  From all reports his season as a whole has been really good, and he has some attributes that we need with Lever going down - he has good foot skills, reads the play very well and can take a grab.  He might still be a little undersized in terms of strength, but then Lever doesn't really go in to many one on ones and instead plays the third man up role, so I don't think that will hinder him too much.

Goody and the club have shown the ability to make the right decision more often than not, especially this season, so if they feel that Petty is the right man to go with them I'll be happy with that decision.