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50 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

not if you have effectively been out of the pointy end of the draft for X years and desperately need to top up your quality youngsters.

But perhaps we just negotiate differently

Explain to me how you would have got a better deal than we got?

Most on here were expecting at best to lose 22. We didn't, we went down 4 spots and instead they get what hopefully will be a worse pick for them if we improve on 17th, in a worse draft.

Please explain how we could have done better getting a good player?

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8 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Explain to me how you would have got a better deal than we got?

Most on here were expecting at best to lose 22. We didn't we went down 4 spots and instead they get wghat hopefully will be a worse pick for them if we improve on 17th in a worse draft.

Please explain how we could have done better getting a good player?

on the one hand posters say the difference in the draft picks is nothing and then you say you need to give it up.

To me drafting quality young players is a priority for this club so the drop of four places is very important to us. In simple terms it was not necessary for the deal and we should not have given it up.

Anyway let's just agree to differ

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Posted
1 hour ago, Nasher said:

I wonder how that decision gets made? Do you reckon it means we’re backing ourselves to finish higher than the Hawks, or am I reading too much into it?

Long as we finish higher than the Dorks it's a win

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3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

on the one hand you say the difference in the draft picks is nothing and then you say you need to give it up.

To me drafting quality young players is a priority for this club so the drop of four places is very important to us. In simple terms it was not necessary for the deal and we should not have given it up.

Anyway let's just agree to differ

First, don't make things up. Where did I say the difference in the draft picks is nothing? It clearly is something, but also clearly very little when you consider all along we were looking at losing 22.

Second. How can you say a deal that is better than everyone on here was prepared to take, is a bad deal. I suppose we should have got him for nothing. I agree that is a better deal, but I don't think it would have happened.

I agree with your last point, we can agree to differ.

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Just now, Redleg said:

First, don't make things up. Where did I say the difference in the draft picks is nothing? It clearly is something, but also clearly very little when you consider all along we were looking at losing 22.

Second. How can you say a deal that is better than everyone on here was prepared to take, is a bad deal. I suppose we should have got him for nothing. I agree that is a better deal, but I don't think it would have happened.

I agree with your last point, we can agree to differ.

calm down mate

if you notice I edited the post about 20 seconds later to say "posters"

BTW I and many others have been saying for weeks that our second round was too high given the leverage we held with the PSD

Posted
3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

calm down mate

if you notice I edited the post about 20 seconds later to say "posters"

BTW I and many others have been saying for weeks that our second round was too high given the leverage we held with the PSD

Sorry didn't see your edit.

Fair enough I understand your position.

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30 minutes ago, TGR said:

You sound like the old chief in Police Academy.  Next you will be saying there are 'many, many, many positives...."

 

I can't take you seriously.

 

Finally, now you know how the rest of us feel about your posts.

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I'd be interested to know Freo supporters thoughts on Ed.

Clearly his career trajectory is pretty impressive for his age. Has genuine speed and endurance, numbers are good as a wing with marks and inside 50's. Certainly accumulates a lot of the ball. His ability to run and spread is what we're desperate for.

I know his disposal is still the biggest question mark. He has a similar kicking style to Hunt and  Frost which lacks a controlled ball drop.

He was obviously a steal at pick 54 in 2014 due to not playing much footy with injuries. Freo would be gutted to lose him.

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4 minutes ago, Yung Blood said:

I'd be interested to know Freo supporters thoughts on Ed.

Clearly his career trajectory is pretty impressive for his age. Has genuine speed and endurance, numbers are good as a wing with marks and inside 50's. Certainly accumulates a lot of the ball. His ability to run and spread is what we're desperate for.

I know his disposal is still the biggest question mark. He has a similar kicking style to Hunt and  Frost which lacks a controlled ball drop.

He was obviously a steal at pick 54 in 2014 due to not playing much footy with injuries. Freo would be gutted to lose him.

From what I've seen of him, he is not in your Josh Kelly league of kicking skills, but is fairly reliable other than the odd shocker.

I think his biggest asset is consistency, plus the fact he is only 23 so he still has upside.

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1 minute ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

From what I've seen of him, he is not in your Josh Kelly league of kicking skills, but is fairly reliable other than the odd shocker.

I think his biggest asset is consistency, plus the fact he is only 23 so he still has upside.

Definitely. His upside based on his already consistent start is really exciting.

He joins a long list of players of similar same age who still have so much upside:

all 23/24:

Langdon, Harmes, Salem, Trac, Brayshaw, Lever, Fritsch.

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The bit of play I really liked from the short highlights clip was the second one, where he hit a target off half back and then kept running further down the ground to receive the ball again.  We simply don't have someone like that in the side and he will love doing that all day at the 'G.

Great get for the club.

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14 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

The bit of play I really liked from the short highlights clip was the second one, where he hit a target off half back and then kept running further down the ground to receive the ball again.  We simply don't have someone like that in the side and he will love doing that all day at the 'G.

Great get for the club.

tore us apart at the 'G this year. Thomlinson likes the 'G as well

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9 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Not really correct.

As it stands over the whole trade period, we're down approx. 400 points, which is about pick 40.

 

Assuming in 2020 we finish 6th, Hawthorn 8th and Freo 9th.

 

In: 50, Hawthorns future 2nd (30) 

Out: 42, 61, our future 4th (72), Frost 

 

In: Langdon, 26, Freos future 4th (63)

Out: 22, 79, our future 2nd (32), 

 

The sum of that in points is:

In: Langdon

Out: Frost and pick 53 (~253 points)

 

Swap ladder positions and it changes, but it looks pretty good to me. 

 

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37 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

The bit of play I really liked from the short highlights clip was the second one, where he hit a target off half back and then kept running further down the ground to receive the ball again.  We simply don't have someone like that in the side and he will love doing that all day at the 'G.

Great get for the club.

Hopefully that rubs off on our other players. That would be nice. 

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4 minutes ago, deanox said:

Assuming in 2020 we finish 6th, Hawthorn 8th and Freo 9th.

My maths came out pretty different (as above in the post you replied to), and I guess it's a wait and see with ladder positions, but I genuinely appreciate that you went and did all that! Love a bit of draft calculator action!

 

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14 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

If you’re one of the plebs that are upset Frost is gone, you’re not allowed to be happy we landed Langdon. 

Is there a calculator to see where on the spectrum one sits? Asking for a friend. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, BW511 said:

Hope everyone on the list is ready to run next year, Langdon will be burning past our players and making them look second rate if they don't. Great get and that 2-way running power will be enormous on the 'G

And don't forget apparently Tomlinson was the gws time trial star also.

Great work Mahoney 

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Posted
3 hours ago, TGR said:

You sound like the old chief in Police Academy.  Next you will be saying there are 'many, many, many positives...."

 

I can't take you seriously.

It's Frost + plastic steak knives for Langdon Rono. How can you not love that?

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1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

If you’re one of the plebs that are upset Frost is gone, you’re not allowed to be happy we landed Langdon. 

Or maybe you could be happy to pick up Langdon but would have preferred to sacrifice someone other than Frost. 

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4 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Or maybe you could be happy to pick up Langdon but would have preferred to sacrifice someone other than Frost. 

Keeping in mind that Frost was out of contract, who else would you have sacrificed instead? 

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Draft best available and select players for need.

All of a sudden we might be able to win at the MCG. The wings have been our deficiency since Goodwin took over.

 

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