Our 2019 3rd round pick and future 2nd pick for Langdon and Freo’s future 3rd round pick might work (though seems indeed for Freo). 

Edited October 7, 20196 yr by godees

37 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I am talking about Tom Langdon.

Yes but i'm saying if Elliot isn't there they have more room available and possibly more likely to hang on to Tom

2nd round pick is fair. Just get it done quickly for that and move on to other less certain movements.

Langdon will be the most important pick up of our offseason. Running power, pace, finds the ball, puts in defensively, perfect fit for us.

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

2nd round pick is fair. Just get it done quickly for that and move on to other less certain movements.

Langdon will be the most important pick up of our offseason. Running power, pace, finds the ball, puts in defensively, perfect fit for us.

Agreed. Get it done and move onto finding a small forward so we do not have to spend the entire 2020 watching ANB butcher the damn ball!

The thing that really excites me about this guy is that his last 4 games of the season were at a very high quality.

He averaged the following:

Disposals - 29.5

Marks - 6.5

Tackles - 2

Goals - 1.25

Fantasy Points - 111.25

He could be the steal of this trade period if he continues his trajectory as an outside mid.

38 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Agreed. Get it done and move onto finding a small forward so we do not have to spend the entire 2020 watching ANB butcher the damn ball!

Throw everything at Papley? Who’s left ? 

Langdon for pick 22 is fair. He is and will be a very good pickup.  Has the outside run that we desperately need. 

Just now, spirit of norm smith said:

Langdon for pick 22 is fair. He is and will be a very good pickup.  Has the outside run that we desperately need. 

I think there was some mention that the Dockers have an academy guy this year expected to go in the teens, so they may prefer a 2nd round pick next year which would work perfectly.

But yes I'd happily trade pick 22 this season.

6 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

What are everyone's thoughts on trading pick 22 for a player that:

1) averages 25 touches/ 6 marks a game,

2) kicks a goal every second week,

3) is a genuine winger perfectly suited to the MCG

4) is one of the best runners in the business:

5) and has played 43 of the last 44 games.

 

 

 

WHO ARE YOU THINKING OF ??

Amazing that there’s even any question if pick 22 is “fair”. Established AFL quality in exchange for a lottery ticket. It’s the noest of brainers ever for me.

At least we’ve learned from the Melksham and Hibberd trades and aren’t screaming “overs!!!”

40 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Amazing that there’s even any question if pick 22 is “fair”. Established AFL quality in exchange for a lottery ticket. It’s the noest of brainers ever for me.

At least we’ve learned from the Melksham and Hibberd trades and aren’t screaming “overs!!!”

Yep, second round picks have been pretty good for our best 22 in the last few years.

7 hours ago, Redleg said:

We will have him in a couple of days.

I get the feeling that Bell might be trying to mend a few bridges from last year and show that he will trade reasonably to then put the pressure on elsewhere, like St.Kilda.

The Bell end knows that Langdon is out of contract and can go to the draft. If hes being nice thats the only reason.

It's a toss up between him and DerWayne as to who is the biggest jerk.

40 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The Bell end knows that Langdon is out of contract and can go to the draft. If hes being nice thats the only reason.

It's a toss up between him and DerWayne as to who is the biggest jerk.

Dwayne, by quite some stretch.

On 10/6/2019 at 3:12 PM, stevethemanjordan said:

Yeh until injury, poor form or otherwise strikes.

Remember that time our list was rated number one by champion data going into this year? 

I remember.

We finished second last.

Much of champion data as well as any isolated statistical analysis is about as useful as an accordion player on a deer hunt. 

 

Remember how we all laughed at Champion Data when they rated Collingwood's midfield as the best in the league after 2017?

Good get we need his pace on the wing.

1 hour ago, A F said:

Dwayne, by quite some stretch.

Oh Baby, it's no contest

With Langdon and Tomlinson we increase our running power, Langdon has far greater speed but picking up a couple of two way running types clears a big void in our game last season.

Greater run and spread  opens up many options across the ground 

Very happy with this @ 22.  Now for a speedy small forward or two.  Alot of whispers around that we are now into Butler but who knows.  The circus rolls on.

2 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Very happy with this @ 22.  Now for a speedy small forward or two.  Alot of whispers around that we are now into Butler but who knows.  The circus rolls on.

It's Richmond's system and team pressure that makes average player look good. Not got a lot of interest in Butler out of that system. 

As with others, Langdon appears a very good fit. Also amazed how players pick up their form when their contracts are up for renewal.

Edited October 7, 20196 yr by Demons1858

anyone know what they are demanding for him, whatever they are we should halve it, (if they refuse) pull out of negotiations publicly, wait for them to make their last minute offer, um and arrr for as long as we can, make a few more deals, and come back with one pick less than what they asked for. 

freo we want pick 13

melb you can have pick 26

freo no

melb no

freo ok we will take pick 26

melb sorry we trading that pick we only have 27 now, take it or leave it

freo what wait arrrr ok

Edited October 7, 20196 yr by Paulo

10 hours ago, Nasher said:

Amazing that there’s even any question if pick 22 is “fair”. Established AFL quality in exchange for a lottery ticket. It’s the noest of brainers ever for me.

At least we’ve learned from the Melksham and Hibberd trades and aren’t screaming “overs!!!”

It doesn't seem fair. Not for Freo anyway. I rate him at around pick 15 - 20. So in my opinion we will be getting a steal if we only pay pick 22. 

14 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

2nd round pick is fair. Just get it done quickly for that and move on to other less certain movements.

Langdon will be the most important pick up of our offseason. Running power, pace, finds the ball, puts in defensively, perfect fit for us.

Almost the echo of my prior posts

33 minutes ago, BAMF said:

It doesn't seem fair. Not for Freo anyway. I rate him at around pick 15 - 20. So in my opinion we will be getting a steal if we only pay pick 22. 

agreed

same thing with the aints' bruce being probably worth 'more' than a pick in the mid-30s and zak jones being worth more than that for the swans too

it's all swings and roundabouts and all deals will happen tho i reckon

5 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

It's Richmond's system and team pressure that makes average player look good. Not got a lot of interest in Butler out of that system. 

As with others, Langdon appears a very good fit. Also amazed how players pick up their form when their contracts are up for renewal.

Agreed but it is also able to work because of the recruiting side D58.

More players with leg speed = quicker closing speed = less time/space to decide/dispose = pressure cooker = increased turnovers.

And what are the Tigers the best at in terms of how they score? ....converting off turnovers AND keeping the ball in motion and getting the ball going forward (field position).  Whether that's through forward handballs or just knocking / slapping / spiking the ball on etc.  The most meters gained by any club in 2019.

Tigers also able to capitalise on their pressure / turnover / meters gained game with a very potent twin tall/quality small forward set up that pressure well at ground level.  Disposal skills also helping generally along with a rock solid defence behind the ball as we know.

There is definitely a method/system but it is very much attuned to taking advantage of their player strengths.  While there are no doubt many players better than Butler on their list, i would not discount his ability to bring some of the above attributes having been well drilled in the same method / system.

Even if he doesn't star, to some degree, he would also bring something else that might come in very handy as an opposition coach...inside intel / knowledge of what is probably the best system doing the rounds (for now anyway).

Edited October 7, 20196 yr by Rusty Nails

8 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

With Langdon and Tomlinson we increase our running power, Langdon has far greater speed but picking up a couple of two way running types clears a big void in our game last season.

Greater run and spread  opens up many options across the ground 

Exactly right PSD.

Add two elite endurance runners who can provide switching options offensively and gut run defensively to cover opposition switches and tic tac options. 

Combine with a list that comes back six weeks earlier, has fewer surgeries and players in rehab and gets a high percentage of sessions under their belt and get the miles in the legs.

Equals a completely different team able to prevent easy opposition ball movement and transition and run out quarters and games.