tiers 2,883 Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 Why has it taken so long for the so called experts to realise this simple fact? It was apparent from the start. Clayton plays his own game unlike anyone before. His vision, awareness and football smarts are outstanding but, in addition, his ability to win the ball in close and distribute quickly to advantage set him apart. His tackling, running, contested marking and strong kicking would almost be enough even without his extraordinary talents. I have noticed that his "don't blink or you will miss it" hand passes are catching on amongst his teammates who have improved greatly in their disposal. It also helps that when we are winning players are willing to run to good positions to receive. 13 2 Quote
Demon_JB 1,389 Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 Everyone called me crazy that Oliver will be a better player than Petracca when we drafted him.. Everyone called me nuts for saying he will be a Brownlow medallist before he even played a game... Everyone told me to seek help for the abundance of love and man crush I had on him when I saw him out on the training track for the very first time... We're all now having the last laugh. 7 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,728 Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 He is a freak. Could go down as one of the greats of the game, and that is not even exaggerating. 2 Quote
Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,681 Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 His ability to pick up the ball and hand pass so quickly is extraordinary, but I love see him, surrounded by people, jumping up and taking the ball and dishing off the handball before he has landed, amazing skills. 4 Quote
Engorged Onion 10,226 Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 it's almost like journo's come to demonland and get the gossip/facts from here... 2 Quote
Engorged Onion 10,226 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, tiers said: Why has it taken so long for the so called experts to realise this simple fact? It was apparent from the start. Clayton plays his own game unlike anyone before. His vision, awareness and football smarts are outstanding but, in addition, his ability to win the ball in close and distribute quickly to advantage set him apart. His tackling, running, contested marking and strong kicking would almost be enough even without his extraordinary talents. I have noticed that his "don't blink or you will miss it" hand passes are catching on amongst his teammates who have improved greatly in their disposal. It also helps that when we are winning players are willing to run to good positions to receive. @tiersfor the first time - i noticed that yesterday also. It really helps open up the congestion AND helps us spread. It wasn't so long ago that we were bemoaning the lack of outside speed (which still in essence is true) but to counteract that - the ball movement is king to helping us with that weakness...Which by my rekonning, meant we have had to work harder initially to improve those areas (stoppages and ball movement)...and they can only hold us in good stead come finals times. Quote
binman 44,824 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, tiers said: I have noticed that his "don't blink or you will miss it" hand passes So have the umpires. There was one trademark Clarry handball with the ball above his head where the umpire said 'that's a handball'or words to that effect - i assume to make clear to players around the pack that it wasn't throw and there would be no free kick or stop in play. Last year he was getting (wrongly) pinged for throwing in such circumstances. 2 Quote
Deeoldfart 8,201 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 I honestly can't think of another player (in the last 60 years) who can be legitimately compared to Clarry. His skill-set is unique! 1 2 Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 It wouldn't surprise me to see the AFL change the rules to combat his handball technique. It's the most unconventional technique since the old flick pass 1 Quote
What 18,810 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 If they made a MENSA society for footy geniuses, Oliver would be first invited. His football IQ is off the charts. 3 Quote
jackaub 1,402 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, Danelska said: @tiersfor the first time - i noticed that yesterday also. It really helps open up the congestion AND helps us spread. It wasn't so long ago that we were bemoaning the lack of outside speed (which still in essence is true) but to counteract that - the ball movement is king to helping us with that weakness...Which by my rekonning, meant we have had to work harder initially to improve those areas (stoppages and ball movement)...and they can only hold us in good stead come finals times. You don't need leg speed if you move the ball quickly Fortunately we are starting to move it quicker across the entire field Just look at Hogan and the other forwards Beats leg speed every day Fantastic 1 1 Quote
stevethemanjordan 6,952 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 It's scary how much media love we're getting today.. 1 1 Quote
ManDee 7,395 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 47 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said: It's scary how much media love we're getting today.. Steve it has just dawned on them. The Dees are back! Quote
Guest Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 Yeah, Part of our premiership midfield. Oliver, Jones, Brayshaw, Viney. Petracca running through there. Who are you going to tag? Quote
tiers 2,883 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 From one who saw the Teddy Whitten inspired "flick pass" phenomenon come and go, Clarrie's handballs are nothing like a flick pass. He obviously has the most flexible, rotatable wrists that ensure that the ball is struck by a closed fist each time, not by an open back hand that was the feature of flick passes. Quote
DEE fence 5,054 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: It wouldn't surprise me to see the AFL change the rules to combat his handball technique. It's the most unconventional technique since the old flick pass Please don't give them ideas. 1 Quote
Tony Tea 2,816 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 Clarry's pace to (and from) a contest is astonishing. He hits the contest at speed without much of a run-up and uses the ball almost before he gets it. 2 Quote
Stevienic23 1,185 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 2 hours ago, binman said: So have the umpires. There was one trademark Clarry handball with the ball above his head where the umpire said 'that's a handball'or words to that effect - i assume to make clear to players around the pack that it wasn't throw and there would be no free kick or stop in play. Last year he was getting (wrongly) pinged for throwing in such circumstances. Yeh i saw and heard that too. If he's got the umps onside, lookout! Quote
FireInTheBennelly 4,104 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 I could be wrong but I don't have access to a replay, but I could've sworn I saw him fumble yesterday. Without the replay I can't tell if he actually fired out one of those handballs, so I'll give him benefit of the doubt. What a refreshing change he is, from all the cheats that drop the ball at the first hint of contact. That's the last thing on Clarry's mind, he's thinking handball to advantage of teammate. 2 1 Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said: I could be wrong but I don't have access to a replay, but I could've sworn I saw him fumble yesterday. Without the replay I can't tell if he actually fired out one of those handballs, so I'll give him benefit of the doubt. What a refreshing change he is, from all the cheats that drop the ball at the first hint of contact. That's the last thing on Clarry's mind, he's thinking handball to advantage of teammate. He does have a broken finger... we can cut him slack... once. 2 2 Quote
Demon trucker 1,800 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 2 hours ago, jackaub said: You don't need leg speed if you move the ball quickly Fortunately we are starting to move it quicker across the entire field Just look at Hogan and the other forwards Beats leg speed every day Fantastic It is a myth we don't have leg speed, salam is quick, viney is quick, Clayton is quick, Bradshaw is also quick, can't believe how many think we are slow, it is not true, hibbo is also quick. Quote
Demons11 7,148 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 The kid is an absolute superstar!!!! 1 2 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 I thought i saw him ruefully pick his finger up off the ground at one stage. 1 Quote
Devil is in the Detail 883 Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, don't make me angry said: It is a myth we don't have leg speed, salam is quick, viney is quick, Clayton is quick, Bradshaw is also quick, can't believe how many think we are slow, it is not true, hibbo is also quick. Brayshaw Quote
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