deelete my account 1,194 Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) i wouldve thought that a few 100k could be knocked off the predictive future salarys of what the club thought tyson, hunt, garlett would be worth at start of year, and allocated for TMAC Edited May 21, 2018 by John Demonic Quote
Garbo 1,567 Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 If I was tom id be asking for whatever Hogan is getting (from memory the talk at the time was he signed for unders compared to what he could have got to go home), I just hope the club has put enough away to pay for that plus whatever we need to resign the rest of our young talent as they come out of contract. Quote
brendan 3,458 Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 A few weeks ago it was said we had the cash to lure a free agent, I’m thinking after we sign The McDonald brothers as well as Brayshaw that money might be gone Quote
What 18,810 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it. Quote
whatwhat say what 23,854 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Petraccattack said: Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it. have a feeling you are making stuff up for fun 6 1 1 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Petraccattack said: Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it. Dammit. That means Oscar will be a Sun as well. Quote
sisso 2,627 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Petraccattack said: Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it. Nobody wants to play for the Suns Quote
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Petraccattack said: Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it. He's spent seven years at a struggling Melbourne who finally look like coming good (touch wood), there is no chance that he goes to another struggling club. 10 1 Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 I think we have shown over the last few years that we know how to manage contract negotiations very well. If we were being managed like Carlton over the last decade, I'd be much more concerned. Which makes me think...if we were Carlton, what would happen? I suspect we would trade Tom McDonald to the Gold Coast for their first round draft pick which is on-traded to GWS for 6 GWS fringe players to be added to our list. And if we were Collingwood, we would be prepared to lose Tom McDonald in order to keep the dollars that he should earn in the pool just to make sure "favourite son" Weideman can be retained. If we were St Kilda, we would look at trading Tom McDonald for three players who between them each have one or more recurrent, career-threatening injuries, off-field behavioural problems and are already known to be homesick for WA. And if we were Fremantle, we'd be trading Tom McDonald to free up cash to pay secret payments to hush something up. 2 5 Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 Not worried about this in the slightest. Same goes for Brayshaw and Oscar - all the dialogue has been that their manager and the club are in constant discussions about new deals and it's just ironing out a few of the finer points before it's all done. There is no 'putting it off till the end of the year' stuff. I reckon these guys will be signed, sealed and delivered by the end of June at the latest. 2 Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,508 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Demons11 said: Buddy at 4? Mate please, he is number 1 by the length of the straight. Depends on criteria, key forwards that can take the big park marks in crucial moments are valuable. Quote
Demons11 7,148 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said: Depends on criteria, key forwards that can take the big park marks in crucial moments are valuable. Buddy is no.1 regardless of whatever criteria you apply. 2 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 Surely both parties would be seeking minimum 4, maybe 5 year contract? What's he worth a season... $700K or is that now too little? Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,508 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 It’s all about salary rotation. TMac is at the peak of his powers and will be paid accordingly. Gawn is currently in the middle of his, Jones is out of contract next year, whilst he will no doubt go on he’s had his time at the top. Petracca still has to earn his. At the end of the day we may lose someone but the majority should stay at the club. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, McQueen said: Surely both parties would be seeking minimum 4, maybe 5 year contract? What's he worth a season... $700K or is that now too little? 700 would be a bargain. I expect some fluidity betwee p/a and years Maybe 4.5 over 5... performance assured etc. Quote
Demon_JB 1,389 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 Worth in excess of 800k per year. Anyone who disagrees have rocks in their head. 1 Quote
Demonland 74,430 Posted May 22, 2018 Author Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Wiseblood said: Not worried about this in the slightest. Same goes for Brayshaw and Oscar - all the dialogue has been that their manager and the club are in constant discussions about new deals and it's just ironing out a few of the finer points before it's all done. There is no 'putting it off till the end of the year' stuff. I reckon these guys will be signed, sealed and delivered by the end of June at the latest. Exactly. I won't be worried unless I hear that contracts negotiations have been put on hold until the end of the year. 2 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 My guess is they will negotiate more years on less coin. Tom probably wants more money than we want to spend, so we are probably countering that with a longer term offer to give him stability. Maybe even offering Oscar an extra year or two as an incentive. Tom is so fit and such an endurance athlete, I would have no issues giving him a 5 year deal. His versatility and aerobic capacity will see him play for another 7-8 years easily (pending any disastrous injury run) 1 Quote
jackaub 1,402 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, juzzk1d said: Worth in excess of 800k per year. Anyone who disagrees have rocks in their head. Roos said last night you get nothing for 800000 now so I would expect closer to the 4000000 for 4 years Quote
Demon_JB 1,389 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, jackaub said: Roos said last night you get nothing for 800000 now so I would expect closer to the 4000000 for 4 years Exactly. They mentioned Degoey..Has a few ripper games in the space of a few weeks and suddenly clubs like North are reportedly lining up to offer him 800k per year. If that's the case, a player like Tmac with an amazing tank, can cover all of the ground and is that key lead up forward who can also pinch hit, play down back, on the wing AND is a dead eye should be worth 1mill per season if we are looking at comparing values here. Quote
pineapple dee 2,892 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, juzzk1d said: Worth in excess of 800k per year. Anyone who disagrees have rocks in their head. Agree. I thought between 800 - 850 is about right. T Mac is going to bring massive value to our club and hopefully, the ultimate prize. 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,854 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 i tend to agree he's probably bordering on the $1m mark given his form since becoming a forward in order to entice away from the dees if we can get him for anywhere under an average of $900k over 4-5 years i would have no qualms paying it dude is a gun 2 Quote
Guest Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 And to think that there was a 'I'm over Tom McDonald' thread on here four years ago (and one whose main thesis was that he should be moved on because he couldn't kick straight). Quote
Lord Travis 10,819 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, Jaded said: My guess is they will negotiate more years on less coin. Tom probably wants more money than we want to spend, so we are probably countering that with a longer term offer to give him stability. Maybe even offering Oscar an extra year or two as an incentive. Tom is so fit and such an endurance athlete, I would have no issues giving him a 5 year deal. His versatility and aerobic capacity will see him play for another 7-8 years easily (pending any disastrous injury run) This. We’ll give him a longer contract on slightly less money pa than he’d get elsewhere. 4.5 mil over 5 years would be ideal for both parties. Close to a mil a year, which will take up less salary cap for us in a few years time. 5 years for a surpreme endurance athlete who can be a rock up forward for that period. 3 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,819 Posted May 22, 2018 Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Petraccattack said: Have a feeling the Suns are going to go very hard at Tom with a lot of $$$ and the AFL will be right behind it. Who in their right mind would put themselves through the torture of joining Gold Coast. When our club is just about to explode into premiership calculations. Quote
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