In:  Viney

Out:  ANB

Harmes & Viney spend roughly 50% of time through the middle / forward (filling ANB's role till Kent returns).  Viney effectively in a quasi resting role during his stints there.  Safer option for Jack than a stint in the McGoos and higher standard all round.

Doubt they would risk rushing Salem back this week.

13 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

In - Viney, Salem

Out - ANB,  Vince (rest )

Bernie played well but he has played 3 games in 11 days, hes 32 and its a long season. We need  players fresh for the back half of the season when things really heat up.

Agree mate. Possibly Weideman for Garlett if we want to go in smaller also. In better shape now and winning with Viney, Salem and Garlett still to come back in.

Weideman is in the unique position whereby his influence on games individually won’t be judged as harshly due to the structural flexibility we’re afforded when he plays.

At the moment it’s working a treat.

Weed provides Gawn the rest he needs which is unbelievably important. Gawn becomes a super threat up forward also when Hoges is roaming up the field and T-Mac Is playing forward.

Weed playing forward also gives us the licence to play Tom Mac in a number of positions. He becomes the ultimate swingman which is a massive headache for the oppo.

I think it changes our look completely and is suited to the way we play. We’re not blessed with super skilled players and we struggle to hit targets going forward. So having a taller forward line is much more conducive to that style of play.

Edited May 6, 20187 yr by stevethemanjordan

Stevethemanjordan absolutely right.  Gawn, TMac and Weid combo pack is proving very important. At some point we just have to back Weid in and let him develop. 

 If Salem is fit that poses a dilemma (remember when we didn't have dilemmas) as does Garlett.

I think the team could benefit for the psychological boost of not having many changes to what is seen to be a winning team that really places pressure on those on the fringes and increases our belief that we will prevail. 

ANB has to make way for Viney.

37 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Weideman is in the unique position whereby his influence on games individually won’t be judged as harshly due to the structural flexibility we’re afforded when he plays.

At the moment it’s working a treat.

Weed provides Gawn the rest he needs which is unbelievably important. Gawn becomes a super threat up forward also when Hoges is roaming up the field and T-Mac Is playing forward.

Weed playing forward also gives us the licence to play Tom Mac in a number of positions. He becomes the ultimate swingman which is a massive headache for the oppo.

I think it changes our look completely and is suited to the way we play. We’re not blessed with super skilled players and we struggle to hit targets going forward. So having a taller forward line is much more conducive to that style of play.

Agree with this. Having max "resting" floating around grabbing marks whilst Tmac is running riot is great flexibility and dynamism. Hard to match. (At least until we run into better opposition).

plus he jagged two. Goals are still goals. 

I'm not particularly a fan of Weideman, but I do like the three tall forwards. Whilst I would prefer Pedersen to play, I'd still rather Weideman play than neither. Amazing though that three weeks ago we played Hogan as the only tall - what an absolute debacle that selection meeting was.

Neal-Bullen surely has to come out - he has had about five last chances now and he continues to regress. Viney plays if genuinely fit, otherwise Garlett given that he starred in his last game at the Gabba. I'm assuming Salem won't be right - if he is, maybe Hunt comes out.

I still have grave concerns about the ability of Melksham, Fritsch and Hannan to play in the same side. We look much better with Garlett in the side, assuming his attitude is up to scratch.

13 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Amazed that no one has Weid out. Was serviceable and is coming along nicely but unless we are completely wedded to the three tall forwards then it's Weid and ANB (or possibly Hunt but I don't think so) for Viney and Salem. Fritsch and Harmes will just play more forward time with Viney in the guts and Salem back. 

I agree

I think it will be:

Out- Weids

In- Salem (or Garlett if Salem does not pass the medical)

No need to bring Viney back yet and have him do the long trip.

No change. 

Viney at least one week in the twos please. 

Agree NO change unless there is an injury on track. Weid stays and does the relief ruck work as Tommy isn't match fit enough yet to take on rucking duties. Salem will not be back from a brokem thumb after 1 week and personally I would give Viney time at Casey as he has had no match time since last year.

22 minutes ago, poita said:

I still have grave concerns about the ability of Melksham, Fritsch and Hannan to play in the same side. We look much better with Garlett in the side, assuming his attitude is up to scratch.

Really? I think we're much better with the three of them rather than Garlett. More pressure further up the ground and closer to goal, better marking options. Melksham is a great field kick.

22 minutes ago, Maxwell Edison MD said:

Viney at least one week in the twos please. 

 

9 minutes ago, Older demon said:

personally I would give Viney time at Casey as he has had no match time since last year.

You don't waste a player like Viney in the twos.

5 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

 

You don't waste a player like Viney in the twos.

Plus we trust the high performance unit has him AFL seniors-ready. 

Viney will rip a hole through Gold Coast's young midfield, get him in if fit. We should win this one pretty easily the Suns aren't much good and have their best player out.

Viney and Salem in if fit.

ANB needs to prove himself in the twos. 15 touches and some terrible finishing is just not good enough. Tyson is frustrating because he can get the ball he just can't hit a target.

3 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

You are one of the most negative posters on here, we can do better but we won so just enjoy the little wins grumpy, it really getting over the top you mfcss. every win I hear the same garbage we were lucky to win we played average, broken record do you have template post with the same negative post, and really you were negative last week too. 

Wonder why I'm negative. Must be all those finals we've played in recently?

If you play ordinary against a terrible side it doesn't help you against better sides. It's a simple concept.

2 hours ago, mongrel said:

I think this season you're seeing teams win games off the back of average football. I thought we came reasonably close to contending with Richmond for three quarters and we played terribly. Sure the opposition this week were average but I guess its a positive we're winning games playing average football. We're just outworking teams without being polished a lot of the time. I don't really know what the benchmark is yet, we haven't seen it yet. Is it the Adelaide game last year? I don't know....

I think our defensive effort and contested ball against Richmond was far better than against the Saints. If we defended like we did against Richmond then the Saints wouldn't have scored for 3/4's. Or at least 1 goal 7 knowing them.

15 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

In - Viney, Salem

Out - ANB,  Vince (rest )

Bernie played well but he has played 3 games in 11 days, hes 32 and its a long season. We need  players fresh for the back half of the season when things really heat up.

Good call. Bernie was running up and down and couldn't jump in the last. He's 32. Mad not to rest , and save the trip to Brisbane which is a bit of a hike as well.

19 hours ago, McQueen said:

The last thing we want is some VFL clown looking for 15 minutes of fame by ironing Jack out and possibly further delaying his return.

That clown would want to hope Viney doesnt't get up again.

I say keep him until the Carlton game. They will think they're a chance against us and seeing JV in and raring to go will give them second thoughts.

In: Viney & Salem

Out: ANB & Harmes

It is GC, actually a good team for Viney to play against, reckon he can skip VFL. Jeffy needs to prove he should be there. Hunt saved by his run, Salem I read was a busted thumb (@ base)? is this correct he is going to need a few needles for that a bowman's fracture is nasty...

Weid stays, i'm tipping he will kick 3.

Changes, i'd kick them all out for not winning by more than 100 points..............................................................................joshing.

Weideman will not be dropped. Just listen to Goodwin praise him. He is needed for second ruck which he is doing very well and he is an important part of our future. Apart from his high marking and tackling, Tmac’s  foot/toe will not be risked in the ruck. Tmac is now a multi faceted footballer up and down the ground that is crucial in that role and our structure is so much better as a result of it. 

Viney a definite starter. Things are tracking along ok we are getting the game on our terms, we really buffeted the Saints when I watched the replay they would be bloody sore today. Clarry will benefit from Viney and Brayshaw is the cream. Not sure who comes out Harmes was good again. ANB is playing a role for us and I'm thinking that satisfies the coaches.

10 hours ago, timbo said:

Plus we trust the high performance unit has him AFL seniors-ready. 

Is this the same unit that bought him back too early last year and cooked him??

Looking like a very wet and cold weekend in Melbourne.

If I was Viney I would be pushing to play in Brisbane.

 

I think both Viney and Salem come back in.  Who for will be tough.  I'd also like Garlett to come back in with our new structure up forward as he's able to provide more opportunities than Hannan IMO.