Andrew Gaff

[jnrmac 20,060]

Well this is awkward.

Gaff should absolutely get 6 weeks - the same as Bugg. It can not possibly be any other sentence. (altho the AFL will find a way). Its an almost identical scenario.

And not only that Bugg was pilloried widely including by his own teammates and club, who I think were very poor and unsupportive of Bugg who was repentent and contrite over his actions .

Will be interesting what stance the club and media take. Clearly Gaff is not a 'pest' like Bugg, doesn't send out inflammatory Instagram's and is viewed as a ball-playing gun.

Watch carefully over the next few days as the full gamut of AFL hypocrisy is on vibrant display. Prepared to be sickened. 

[Nasher 33,613]

15 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

it's dirty but i thought the same thing,.. But for real, very sorry for Brayshaw with the broken jaw, how do we think Gaff will go as a team mate of Angus? I'd be a little dark to say the least.

Angus seems to manage just fine with Bugg as a teammate.

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

The force was strong enough to cause a broken jaw. If he was aiming for the chest region the damage inflicted could have been just as serious.

[JTR 2,846]

Just finished watching the game now. How bad are the Eagles supporters. Standing ovation for Gaff when he comes off. Same again when they all got round him after his final 1/4 goal. 

After Biggs hit we (for the most part) all sat around thinking what [censored]. Certainty didnt applaud it!

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1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Angus seems to manage just fine with Bugg as a teammate.

umm, I don't think Bugg hit his brother.

[Gorgoroth 12,947]

insabe amount of damage done.

Doesnt Danny Green follow the weagles? Interesting to see if he pipes up!

Edited August 5, 2018 by Gorgoroth

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25 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Angus and Andrew's brother Hamish plays for the Eagles.

The Brayshaw's will get over it. Mr Brayshaw probably understands that these things happen in footy. Mrs Brayshaw has been through a lot but I doubt she'd hold a grudge.

Smart sponsors will be happy a very good footballer has joined the Demons. They'll be fine.

If you get the chance, watch Ross Lyons presser to see how his mum is feeling, she’s distraught and so is Ross by the look of him.

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

7 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

I do think Gaff was going for the chest and effd it up, not the same sort of dog as Matthews). 

I don’t think Gaff missed at all

he sized him up first

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1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Angus seems to manage just fine with Bugg as a teammate.

Did Bugg snot one of the Brayshaws? I don't recall that. I was fine with Pickett, Vince and Lewis joining the Demons, more than happy to see Gaff join the side (if it happens) was just speaking as a brother, to use the cliche 'blood is thicker' and all of that.

[DEE fence 5,007]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I don’t think Gaff missed at all

he sized him up first

agree to disagree, but be clear on this point, I think Gaff should go for as long as he would get as if he had 100% meant it.

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

5 minutes ago, JTR said:

Just finished watching the game now. How bad are the Eagles supporters. Standing ovation for Gaff when he comes off. Same again when they all got round him after his final 1/4 goal. 

After Biggs hit we (for the most part) all sat around thinking what [censored]. Certainty didnt applaud it!

Then the AFL should double his penalty to send a message to supporters and players that laud this kind of behaviour. 

[DeeSpencer 25,682]

2 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

If you get the chance, watch Ross Lyons presser to see how his mum is feeling, she’s distraught and so is Ross by the look of him.

Of course any mother would be distraught. I don't expect Gaff to be on her Christmas list but I imagine in time she'll come to forgive him. Especially once Andy is back healthy which I hope is sooner rather than later.

As for Ross - well it's nice to find a distraction rather than talking about Freo's form. He's coached many players who have been suspended for some nasty things over the years I'm sure.

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10 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

And not only that Bugg was pilloried widely including by his own teammates and club, who I think were very poor and unsupportive of Bugg who was repentent and contrite over his actions .

Yeah while Bugg needed the stint, I didn't love some of the commentary he got from the club.

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

3 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

agree to disagree, but be clear on this point, I think Gaff should go for as long as he would get as if he had 100% meant it.

Reconstructive Surgery will take care of that. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Of course any mother would be distraught. I don't expect Gaff to be on her Christmas list but I imagine in time she'll come to forgive him. Especially once Andy is back healthy which I hope is sooner rather than later.

As for Ross - well it's nice to find a distraction rather than talking about Freo's form. He's coached many players who have been suspended for some nasty things over the years I'm sure.

Are you for real??

the Kid was assaulted. If that was outside a nightclub Gaff would be under Police Custody

[DV8 2,271]

4 hours ago, Deefiant said:

Hodge and Mitchell both had success with the Hawks. Jones has stuck with us through the worst period and should be there to enjoy the good times. Loyalty works both ways. If he wanted a big payday he wouldve left ages ago.

I understand all that, but he has a max of 2 years with us, before he's gets overtaken from within.  

There is every chance that Jones'y will lose the captaincy at the Demons within the next 12 months.

 

That won't be the case at the Suns.  As his leadership alone will dictate he plays on there to aid in their recovery.

They and the AFL would pay him overs  to have a player of his skill-sets and experience,  to help lead the Sun's out of the shadows.

 

I cannot think of any other leader within the AFL that has his bulk of experiences,,, that makes them a better choice to do that job.   He is far and away the most suited for the role.

Loyalty of course... but how will it be when we have to drop him from our finals bound sides next year, or the season after.  How will that be for loyalty ?  And after that,  retirement beckons.    A sudden fall from grace.

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2 minutes ago, DV8 said:

I understand all that, but he has a max of 2 years with us, before he's gets overtaken from within.  

There is every chance that Jones'y will lose the captaincy at the Demons within the next 12 months.

 

That won't be the case at the Suns.  As his leadership alone will dictate he plays on there to aid in their recovery.

They and the AFL would pay him overs  to have a player of his skill-sets and experience,  to help lead the Sun's out of the shadows.

 

I cannot think of any other leader within the AFL that has his bulk of experiences,,, that makes them a better choice to do that job.   He is far and away the most suited for the role.

Loyalty of course... but how will it be when we have to drop him from our finals bound sides next year, or the season after.  How will that be for loyalty ?  And after that,  retirement beckons.    A sudden fall from grace.

I get your point, yes he would offer something to the Suns, but after dealing with 2007-2015 why on earth would you put yourself through that again? for sure he will go out on a high with us.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

34 minutes ago, deanox said:

That's ridiculous.  Intentionally assaulting someone 50 m away from the ball is not "the nature of contact sport".

An overly aggressive hip and shoulder while contesting the game falls in that category. 

If that's where the line is drawn, then every jumper punch, every tummy tap, every raised elbow should be charged by the cops as assault???

Gaff's hit was clearly bad and he will cop a heavy suspension. But he should not face criminal charges. That was my point.

There's plenty of over dramatic outrage on this thread in the last hour or two

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

3 minutes ago, DV8 said:

I understand all that, but he has a max of 2 years with us, before he's gets overtaken from within.  

There is every chance that Jones'y will lose the captaincy at the Demons within the next 12 months.

 

That won't be the case at the Suns.  As his leadership alone will dictate he plays on there to aid in their recovery.

They and the AFL would pay him overs  to have a player of his skill-sets and experience,  to help lead the Sun's out of the shadows.

 

I cannot think of any other leader within the AFL that has his bulk of experiences,,, that makes them a better choice to do that job.   He is far and away the most suited for the role.

Loyalty of course... but how will it be when we have to drop him from our finals bound sides next year, or the season after.  How will that be for loyalty ?  And after that,  retirement beckons.    A sudden fall from grace.

Who the hell would want to Captain The $un$

Why Bother...

soulless Tax Haven

[DeeSpencer 25,682]

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Are you for real??

the Kid was assaulted. If that was outside a nightclub Gaff would be under Police Custody

Kid? He's 18. He's a man. If he's not maybe he shouldn't have entered the draft or should be playing WAFL.

It wasn't outside a night club though was it? It was on a footy field and context matters.

He was blocking Gaff's run on the field. Gaff was barely looking at him. Brayshaw wasn't either and you can see him dip down to move away from Gaff. Gaff took a swing for his chest to whack him away and smashed his chin. 

Gaff has played 170 odd games and never hit someone in the head before. That, and the vision, counts for something with me. More so than a hypothetical.

[picket fence 17,146]

Gaff needs to go for 10 Given off the ball hit and damage caused!

 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Are you for real??

the Kid was assaulted. If that was outside a nightclub Gaff would be under Police Custody

It wasn't and he wasn't.

It was bad, very bad, but he won't be put in a cell by police. Not should he.

[WERRIDEE 5,473]

Just now, picket fence said:

Gaff needs to go for 10 Given off the ball hit and damage caused!

 

Are you mad he'll be in our colours next year. 6 weeks is enough. At worst he'll miss 1 game for us.

[Deestroy All 14,265]

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Are you for real??

the Kid was assaulted. If that was outside a nightclub Gaff would be under Police Custody

Not for long.

[chookrat 4,247]

21 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Well this is awkward.

Gaff should absolutely get 6 weeks - the same as Bugg. It can not possibly be any other sentence. (altho the AFL will find a way). Its an almost identical scenario.

And not only that Bugg was pilloried widely including by his own teammates and club, who I think were very poor and unsupportive of Bugg who was repentent and contrite over his actions .

Will be interesting what stance the club and media take. Clearly Gaff is not a 'pest' like Bugg, doesn't send out inflammatory Instagram's and is viewed as a ball-playing gun.

Watch carefully over the next few days as the full gamut of AFL hypocrisy is on vibrant display. Prepared to be sickened. 

Im going with 5 weeks. He isnt a pest like Bugg (6 weeks) but is not a celebration of multiculturism like Houli (4 weeks), however this is AFL and as a star player he may also conceivably recieve anywhere between a $1,500 fine and 3 weeks.