Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) I find it amusing that we’re only two games in and people (posters here included) thought Lever was going to slot into a new team and have the same impact straight away he had at Adelaide. Adjusting to all the differences that come with playing with a new team is going to take time. The kid will be a gun for us. You’ll always have people who want players in Levers position to fail. Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. Baby I’m gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake. Edited April 4, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay Missed a shake. 16 2 Quote
dl4e 5,851 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 I think it will take him close to a season to get used to playing with us. 1 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,808 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Demonland said: Common request but we shall donate patience, once again. Quote
praha 11,267 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 I'm all outta patience. I have plenty of angst, though. 2 1 Quote
Demon Disciple 12,536 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, dl4e said: I think it will take him close to a season to get used to playing with us. really? I've been following this team for over 20 years and i'm still finding it hard to understand how they play. 2 3 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Took pig about 5 mins to have effect and impact.. ( with a holiday from game no less ) I call bullshlt on patience. Lever ought to be better than this. Hes no green draftee/ rookie , he's a finals experienced player ffs. Pull finger out lad 10 1 Quote
Ouch! 2,276 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Too early to make a call IMO. I presume most people thought we bought him to the club as the third tall/intercept defender as he played with Adelaide. However he is playing as our 2nd tall and required to play a more accountable game (in terms of minding bigger forwards) it will take a little longer to learn the ropes. I don't know if it will change this week, I don't see us bringing in Frost. Nth left Ben Brown with a lot of room in the Forward half last week, and Waite didnt push up forward all that much, he was delivering the ball (quite nicely too I might add) to Brown. Lever can still possibly play that intercept role with other smaller defenders to take on their mid and small forwards. Quote
In Harmes Way 7,869 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) Edited April 4, 2018 by small but forward 1 Quote
What 18,810 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, dl4e said: I think it will take him close to a season to get used to playing with us. Only if he continues to be played out of position. If he goes back to his proper role this week he will immediately get used to playing for us. Quote
iv'a worn smith 1,979 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Bring in Frost and let Lever do what he does best. Intercept mark without having to body the big KPF's 2 Quote
bobby1554 1,275 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, beelzebub said: Took pig about 5 mins to have effect and impact.. ( with a holiday from game no less ) I call bullshlt on patience. Lever ought to be better than this. Hes no green draftee/ rookie , he's a finals experienced player ffs. Pull finger out lad Spot on! Lets not forget we gave up 2 first round picks for Lever, thats a lot of talent not coming through the door. I was sceptical when the deal was done and nothing has transpired to date that would change my view. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said: Bring in Frost and let Lever do what he does best. Intercept mark without having to body the big KPF's Am all for allowing Lever his 'more' natural game. Still, i can't imagine the current role is any surprise to him. I'm a little underwhelmed. 1 Quote
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, beelzebub said: Am all for allowing Lever his 'more' natural game. Still, i can't imagine the current role is any surprise to him. I'm a little underwhelmed. Hang in there, BB...I'm sure he'll come good Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, jumbo returns said: Hang in there, BB...I'm sure he'll come good He'll need to 1 Quote
leucopogon 1,519 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Thought he was average against Geelong, but decent against Brisbane. I think he'll be a good player. 3 Quote
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Hibberd is playing the role that Lever should be. But currently Hibberd is keeping him out of that role. Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,772 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, america de cali said: Hibberd is playing the role that Lever should be. But currently Hibberd is keeping him out of that role. mmmmmmm so remind me why we gave up two first round draft picks and are paying big money if we already had an All Australian playing the same role. Edited April 4, 2018 by Diamond_Jim 2 Quote
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said: mmmmmmm so remind me why we gave up two first round draft picks and are paying big money if we already had an All Australian playing the same role. Because it'll be better to have two AAs on your list, rather than one? 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, america de cali said: Hibberd is playing the role that Lever should be. But currently Hibberd is keeping him out of that role. I disagree. I thought the idea was to double down on the type of player Pig is. Have twice that potency of interception/ rebound. That and insurance should either be injured. Im not sure why the FD are dlcking around and having Lever not play the style ( you know...the one we all thought he was to play...the why of why he came...or so we assumed )but it's not quite working. We can see this ... surely the powers that be can as well ? Whichever...Lever isn't impacting at the level he ought. Quote
DSP 1,488 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 How about he is judged when he actually plays the role he was brought into the club for. Bring in Frosty and let Lever be the switch. I swear if Ben Brown is allowed to clunk freely this week, I will implode. 1 Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 I'm not really concerned about Lever himself, but I am curious about how the club are playing him now and planning on playing him in the future. He was recruited on the back of an excellent year of intercept marking where he was given opponents he could run off to help out his fellow defenders. What is he for us? Is he an intercept marker, or is he a true defender expected to beat larger players one on one? 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, Pates said: I'm not really concerned about Lever himself, but I am curious about how the club are playing him now and planning on playing him in the future. He was recruited on the back of an excellent year of intercept marking where he was given opponents he could run off to help out his fellow defenders. What is he for us? Is he an intercept marker, or is he a true defender expected to beat larger players one on one? Hes never really played the gorilla minder. He's an intercept player...like pig...like rivers....like bizzell etc Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, beelzebub said: Hes never really played the gorilla minder. He's an intercept player...like pig...like rivers....like bizzell etc That's exactly how I've seen him, but it doesn't appear to be the way we're playing him. So they need to sort out the structure to allow him to do what he does best. 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,730 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, beelzebub said: Took pig about 5 mins to have effect and impact.. ( with a holiday from game no less ) I call bullshlt on patience. Lever ought to be better than this. Hes no green draftee/ rookie , he's a finals experienced player ffs. Pull finger out lad Hibberd was far more experienced than Jake. And his position didn't change at Melbourne. Lever is now learning to play second tall, not third tall/intercepter. Just as Rance had to learn when he was 25-26 (note the age difference). Poor comparison, Bubs. Edited April 4, 2018 by A F 1 Quote
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