1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

it's only a toe, dv8 

Only a toe, kept Frost out for around 6 months. It troubled him for more than 12 months.

Conservative with injuries especially early season is crucial.  We can take risks if need be later in the season IF we are desperate.

 

I would rather have Tmc cheery ripe, before he comes into the side.  I don't want him tormented by this injury, all through the season.

Viney came back too soon last year, didn't end well.

Gawn came back too soon last year, didn't end well.

Watts came back under rehabbed last year, stuffed our season.  Didn't end well.

 

Its no surprise that our momentum went into a downward spiral, when these players started to return to the team, all too soon.

2017 didn't end well for the Mfc.

Edited March 19, 20187 yr by DV8

1 minute ago, DV8 said:

Only a toe, kept Frost out for around 6 months. It troubled him for more than 12 months.conservative with injuries especially early season is crucial.  we can take risks if need be later in the season IF we are desperate.

 

I would rather have Tmc cheery ripe, before he comes into the side.  I don't want him tormented by this injury, all through the season.

Viney came back too soon last year, didn't end well.

Gawn came back too soon last year didn't end well.

Watts came back under rehabbed last year, stuffed our season.  Didn't end well.

 

Its no surprise that our momentum went into a downward spiral, when these players started to return to the team, all too soon.

2017 didn't end well for the Mfc.

you did see my emoticon, dv8?

btw does anyone know which toe it is? seems to be on right foot because training video shows him kicking with left foot.

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

you did see my emoticon, dv8?

btw does anyone know which toe it is? seems to be on right foot because training video shows him kicking with left foot.

sorry, no i didn't get it.

1 minute ago, DV8 said:

sorry, no i didn't get it.

it wasn't to be taken too seriously, that's all

43 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

you did see my emoticon, dv8?

btw does anyone know which toe it is? seems to be on right foot because training video shows him kicking with left foot.

Not sure whether a sore toe would be more painful in the foot kicking the ball or planted on the ground thereby taking the full weight. Presumably others on Demonland have experience and can advise.

Julian de Stoop apparently has gone with TMac will not play Round 1

15 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Not sure whether a sore toe would be more painful in the foot kicking the ball or planted on the ground thereby taking the full weight. Presumably others on Demonland have experience and can advise.

Also troublesome in packs, around wandering boots.

But is it the toe, or an ankle?

These days with so much mis-information, its really hard to know what the truth is.

But the reality is, its really tough to ruck with buggered feet.  And to play CHF.

 

Imperative we don't take risks before the season even starts.

 

You can play with a cracked rib. You can play with a crack in the jaw.

But try to run and jump in a game, with only one good foot, let alone having to kick on the run.

 

My questions for Mr Misson are:

If Tom McDonald is feeling so much better now after 10 days off legs then why wasn't he given 10 days off legs when he first felt sore 8 weeks ago?

AND

Why did he play in the AFLX shambles at on the Etihad car park if there was knowledge that he had any sort of niggle that could be exacerbated by a firm surface?

 

 

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

My questions for Mr Misson are:

If Tom McDonald is feeling so much better now after 10 days off legs then why wasn't he given 10 days off legs when he first felt sore 8 weeks ago?

AND

Why did he play in the AFLX shambles at on the Etihad car park if there was knowledge that he had any sort of niggle that could be exacerbated by a firm surface?

 

 

Careful Spence, too much logic in your questioning.

24 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

My questions for Mr Misson are:

If Tom McDonald is feeling so much better now after 10 days off legs then why wasn't he given 10 days off legs when he first felt sore 8 weeks ago?

AND

Why did he play in the AFLX shambles at on the Etihad car park if there was knowledge that he had any sort of niggle that could be exacerbated by a firm surface?

My thoughts exactly!

Why, oh why do we take chances with foot issues.  Thought we had learnt with Trengove and Viney to not let them play with delicate injuries that can only improve with rest!  Risks are too high! 

Very short-sighted - may win a game or two but risk have our best players out for an extended period of time. 

Edited March 21, 20187 yr by Lucifer's Hero

All the more important now that we have a decent run with injuries can’t afford to lose too many more best 10 players, I would be surprised if we see Tom and jack before mid year 

The wheels are already falling off!

If we can win enough games without viney and McDonald when they return they will be cream on a pretty good cake 

25 minutes ago, praha said:

The wheels are already falling off!

2 important players yes, but otherwise the list is in pretty good shape if we can stay that way I think we will be ok 

MFCSS alive and well for 2018.

I hate seeing injuries to key players as much as anyone else but our challenge now is to get on with the task of putting 22 players on the field and getting the job done.  

Melbourne injury list: round one:

James Harmes (concussion) – available
Nathan Jones (back) – available
Jordan Lewis (calf) – available
Pat McKenna (hamstring) – indefinite
Tom McDonald (foot) – TBC
Alex Neal-Bullen (quadriceps) – available
Clayton Oliver (knee) – test
Aaron vandenBerg (ankle) – indefinite
Jack Viney (foot) – TBC

If stupidity was an Olympic sport, there are a number of employees of the MFC that would be strong favourites to bring home the gold medal in their respective weight divisions.

Not only do we allow Jack Viney to destroy his foot by playing him early against all prevailing medical wisdom, we allow Tom McDonald to do the same thing six months later. At least Viney's problems stem from regular season matches - the club was stupid enough to let McDonald play a shitty exhibition game two months out from the season. 

Given the countless half truths and outright lies spoken by everyone from the coach down since Viney's initial injury, I can only assume that we will spend the next 23 weeks enduring the same regarding McDonald's problem. Time for the club to man up and admit to their errors of judgement and give honest timelines for the returns of both Jack and Tom.

PS. Vandenberg - indefinite, McKenna - indefinite. So glad my membership dollars are paying for these two to not play football for the club.

Viney and TMac to miss 6 to 8 weeks, as per Goody's presser 

TMac and Viney our for 6-8 according to Goodie...

3 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Viney and TMac to miss 6 to 8 weeks, as per Goody's presser 

Just heard this on SEN, damn this sucks.

The level of honesty we get from the club re injuries is really poor. So if they are saying up to 8 weeks then its much longer than that. Don't believe the spin. Was going to be round 1, then round 2/3, then whenever. Serious longer term concerns with Viney now which bring into question the quality of our sports science  and medical teams. When are we going to hold them to account? Disgraceful

5 minutes ago, Drunkn167 said:

Just heard this on SEN, damn this sucks.

The 6 doesn't surprise me. 10 days off legs, then 10-14 days reloading, then training and vel games adds up.

Plus, probably a shorter time frame than the dreaded 426. ?

8 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

The level of honesty we get from the club re injuries is really poor. So if they are saying up to 8 weeks then its much longer than that. Don't believe the spin. Was going to be round 1, then round 2/3, then whenever. Serious longer term concerns with Viney now which bring into question the quality of our sports science  and medical teams. When are we going to hold them to account? Disgraceful

The club isn't going to know how Viney or anyone for that matter responds when they ramp up their training... I'm sure 2 weeks ago the aim was round 1 for Viney. He joins in full training & pulls up sore, how can the club know how he'll pull up & respond. Same with TMac, he missed the last JLT with the hope he'll respond with 2 weeks rest & clearly he hasn't & now the best course of action is to be cautious & rest it... They could miss 12+ weeks until they join in training & pull up fine no'one will know

Edited March 22, 20187 yr by JV7

25 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

The level of honesty we get from the club re injuries is really poor. So if they are saying up to 8 weeks then its much longer than that. Don't believe the spin. Was going to be round 1, then round 2/3, then whenever. Serious longer term concerns with Viney now which bring into question the quality of our sports science  and medical teams. When are we going to hold them to account? Disgraceful

Can we please have a new forum added to Demonland... perhaps call it The Chicken Little Forum (MFCSS is so passe)

Edited March 22, 20187 yr by hardtack