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Ollie Wines

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Just now, Redleg said:

Fair enough. Someone else suggested it and I thought your post was following the same theme.

Yes I would take Ollie for the right deal.

Exactly. We have alot to deal without touching Pick 2

Massive changes must be made over Summer for us to bounce back. 

We have a lot of MFC employees who have 3 weeks to go...

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    2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Exactly. We have alot to deal without touching Pick 2

    Massive changes must be made over Summer for us to bounce back. 

    We have a lot of MFC employees who have 3 weeks to go...

    I think a season like this one will see a lot of changes at the Dees and they have started.

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    1 minute ago, Redleg said:

    I think a season like this one will see a lot of changes at the Dees and they have started.

    Totally agree. But we must make sure we target the exact weak points. 

    There are still good people to keep

    This is exactly why i hope we have an external review at Seasons end. 

    Fresh eyes need to go through the entire operation. This massive plummet of 2019 has happened for a reason, it’s not just bad luck

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    I would play Ollie in the forward line. 

    The ball would stay down there a lot more

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    1 hour ago, The Stigga said:

    Ok, watch Hawthorn somehow get Hill, Coniglio, Patton, while we do the same thing and stand there like Winnie the Pooh...

    Trying to think outside the box a bit, Brad Hill will not solve all our problems...

     

    We need any types except key backs and inside mids. If you added another Jack Viney into the team would that fix any problems? 

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    On 9/10/2018 at 11:28 PM, What said:

    Would you trade any of our young star mids for WInes?

    Viney? no

    Oliver? no

    Salem? no

    Petracca? no

    Harmes?  no

    Brayshaw? no

    VINEY YES

    BRAYSHAW MAYBE

    PETRACCA MAYBE

    HARMES, OLIVER, SALEM,  NO 

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    16 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Captain and can’t get a game unless another player is injured. Late second round pick. 

    Yes. It is a fairly damming assessment from Hinkley. We can deal on this one. 

    Darren Burgess worked with Ollie when his value was a lot higher

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    I know he is exactly the type of player we don't need, but I feel it is justice bringing Ollie to where he belongs and should be once and for all. [censored] you Neeld. 

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    2 hours ago, Demonland said:

    We had a great opportunity to get Wines with an early pick and blew it.

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    Yep, just remind me who did we pick instead?? Whathisname!! Ah the Neeld years... Such majesty!

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    It is not his 'first position' but I agree that Wines might be of value to us as an extra bit of toughness and hunting inside-50, a little bit like the role Vandenberg is optimal for. So, obviously, Wines becomes more appealing in the event that Vandenberg retires. This is of course on the understanding that Wines would become a valuable addition to our stoppage options as well.

    Doesn't get us any closer to having the zippy goalsneak and fast-pressure players our forward line could use, though.

    Hmm, becomes an even more awkard shaped forward line, practically everyone in it except Weideman and McDonald is actually a half-forward or a midfielder-forward.

    Wines, Petracca, Melksham, Fritsch, Lochkart? Hunt? Hannan?

    What could be comedy value at least is to end up with a forward line that is basically just another midfield, except up the end of the ground.

    Centre bounce, mongrel clearance forward, stoppage, clearance, mogrel kick at goal, repeat. And our centres don't even run forward, they just wait across the midfield zones to cover the rebound, and ready on the spot for the next centre bounce if the plan works!

    Would be the ugliest game style of the modern era... but it could work!

     

    Anyway, Wines is signed at Port until 2022 and the article is a beat up - Wines is being given a week at SANFL level to be sure he is fresh and the decision was maybe a little influenced by the sentiment of keeping together the team which hammered Essendon on the weekend. Probably not much to see here.

     

     

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    Wont leave Port. 

    He absolutely loves it there.

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    I'd like to see Viney tried as a small forward.  He has some real acceleration, could get to fall of the ball and win the contest, is a generally clean ball-handler, and would be a genuine tackling threat that would spark fear and panic in opposition defenders.  There has been some resistance raised from a good judge because his kicking is not great and our inability to convert has really hurt us.  This could well be the killer but he could not be worse than ANB.

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    4 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

    I'd like to see Viney tried as a small forward.  He has some real acceleration, could get to fall of the ball and win the contest, is a generally clean ball-handler, and would be a genuine tackling threat that would spark fear and panic in opposition defenders.  There has been some resistance raised from a good judge because his kicking is not great and our inability to convert has really hurt us.  This could well be the killer but he could not be worse than ANB.

    Cant kick to save himself.. A seriously limited footballer. I can''t believe he is a Captain!!??

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    Inside midfielder. Slow. Can’t kick. 

    Why are we discussing Wines???

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    4 hours ago, ding said:

    Wont leave Port. 

    He absolutely loves it there.

    Is this the latest mail?

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    35 minutes ago, 3Dee said:

    Is this the latest mail?

    From someone who regularly shares a car ride back to Victoria with him. They are certain he isnt going anywhere.

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    9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    I would play Ollie in the forward line. 

    The ball would stay down there a lot more

    I have often thought this is exactly the role viney should play. Also I think his set shot kicking is ok, compared to his field kicking which is below average 

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    8 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Pick 4. Toumpas

    WE BLEW IT !!!!!!!!!

    Wines wanted to be at MFC and we blew it. 

    Neeld and The recruiters will NEVER BE FORGIVEN 

    Why do we keep blaming Neeld for this?

    It might have been Viney...Jack was certainly in the Toumpas camp.

    ...but whatever, I would love to know the true story on it and not the Neeld narrative that is continually thrown around here.

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    13 hours ago, DubDee said:

    Inside midfielder. Slow. Can’t kick. 

    Why are we discussing Wines???

    For closure. At the start of his career we moaned because we didn't pick Wines.

    At the end of his career, we can moan that we did pick Wines.

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