4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

That's fine OD.  I wasn't trying to make him out to be a star or some sort of game changer, but I still think my point of him being a handy player to have on our list is fair.  His kicking can let him down but he has a knack for getting shots on goal (notice I didn't say he always kicked them!) and he can play that defensive forward role quite well with the odd stint through the middle.

Again, he isn't a game changer, but his efforts during the middle part of the year is an indication of what he can bring to the side.

I don't think we are far apart on him Wiseblood.

i have watched a lot of our players over the years who are good at everything except kicking lose us vital games. If you cannot kick well you are a liability IMO.

23 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

If we beat North let’s all meet in the city and go on a Philadelphia Eagles style rampage. 

You can eat the horse crap

22 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Melksham also looking very sharp.  Could be a weapon for us up forward this year.

He was last year too

Albeit inconsistent

Edited February 17, 20187 yr by Dr. Gonzo

14 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He was last year too

Albeit inconsistent

Dr IMO consistence is our major problem a large number of our players are good for two quarters passable in one and totally missing in the other or great one week and unnoticed the next e.g. Petracca.

4 hours ago, Forest Demon said:

I still have a concern over Stretch's kicking action.

Reminds me of Grimes

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

I know it's only aflx but how long until it's hogan with 2 Zoopers and 4 Pepsis.

Cue tabloid rumour that Jesse's been hanging out at dance music festivals again.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

I don't think we are far apart on him Wiseblood.

i have watched a lot of our players over the years who are good at everything except kicking lose us vital games. If you cannot kick well you are a liability IMO.

I think we are both in exactly the same spot - I'm just looking at what he brings to the side, you're looking at what he doesn't.  Between us we have it covered.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

The gig problem wise is his kicking  is not AFL level standard. I did not see the games last night's but serveral have reported the poor kicking continued. Poor kicking costs games. Today I watched the tigers / giants game. Poor kicking cost GWS that game. I am not a fan.

I can’t remember many poor field kicks he just kept missing goals, I think they stand out more in people’s minds I like bugg and I like what he brings to the team if he can convert those shots on goal he will become a very damaging player 

21 hours ago, binman said:

But agree on TMac's younger brother. he was unsighted all night. 

Needs to go back to Casey to work on things.

4 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

He missed targets with time and space, and the targets had time and space, doesn’t look good for the real stuff. 

Yes, it doesn’t look good and as I said, I don’t rate him.

 

that said, it was a nothing exhibition 

On 16/02/2018 at 7:14 PM, Deestroy All said:

A couple of rule changes and it could be alright. 

Play on a bigger oval. 

Have 18 a side on the field. 

4 20 minute quarters with time on. 

Get rid of super goals, add rucks, tackling and contests. 

Bing181 summarizes ot well:

At this level, no. But it's not designed for elite athletes, it's not even designed as a spectator sport, it's designed to give easy access to jo/joanne average who just want to try Aust. Rules football. As I mentioned earlier, I watch something similar to this all the time here in Europe, and you are NOT seeing players who can regularly and accurately hoof the ball 50 m. Scores in the game I watch are similar to/lower than regular footy, even though they play 4 x 20 minute quarters.

I definitely think it will help to increase participation internationally. What place it has in Australia on a professional/serious level, difficult to say, and like most here, I wouldn't be queuing up to watch it.

21 hours ago, Macca said:

You wouldn't have liked footy in the 70's,  80's or the 90's then WA because that is what we generally got ... end-to-end free flowing footy

The players played in their positions too ... I'm just happy that I got to witness those 3 magical decades instead of what we now get. 

But each to their own and I might eventually enjoy the current brand of footy.  I'm trying to like it. 

I tend to only go to the Demon games or watch the team on the telly ... only watch selected AFL games - maybe 1 other game per week.  I know plenty who now view footy in the same way.  It's their own team and that is about it. 

You must have lived in an alternate universe. Most games played during the 70’s and 80’s were glorified kick to kicks. No fluidity and constant stoppages. 

25 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

You must have lived in an alternate universe. Most games played during the 70’s and 80’s were glorified kick to kicks. No fluidity and constant stoppages. 

The 60's and 70's were  like that, it become more of a running game in the 80's, 90's was the best footy

A quick easy fix that would enhance the game significantly would be to make the super goals 10 points only from your own half.  Introduce a Super Mark (taken within a 10 metre arc from point post to point post) which is rewarded with 10 point goals (if kicked from mark).  Probably should supplement this with a rule kicks into the 10 metre arc must travel 25 metres.

This would encourage long kicks into the goal hotzone for contested marking and front centre/small forward crumbing of spilled marks; which would of course lead to more tackling and contested pressure.  Could even be more ruck contests as a result.

Most major AFL elements reintroduced!!!  Game still fast and suited to a soccer field!!!

 

 

2 hours ago, bandicoot said:

You must have lived in an alternate universe. Most games played during the 70’s and 80’s were glorified kick to kicks. No fluidity and constant stoppages. 

You are thinking pf the 60''s bandicoot where handpassing of the ball was at a minimum.  Today's version sees more handballing but a lot of it is ineffectual. 

These days apart from all the congestion/stoppages we also see hundreds of shorter kicks and thus hundreds of uncontested marks.

Throughout the 70's,  80's & 90's we saw numerous long kicks but not always and not always to packs.  However,  when we did see long kicks to packs we often saw spectacular marks or contested marks. 

If it was just kick to kick why were the scores so constantly high?  You make it sound like footy was a dour defensive struggle back in the day when the truth of the matter that it was the opposite.

Flooding,  the forward press and numerous players being on the ball (congestion/stoppages) often turns today's version of footy into a dour defensive struggle.  

And a 2 metre handpass or 20 metre kick takes minimum skill (that's what we mainly see)  The players these days are ultra fit - that's the difference.  Today's version is a game of keepings-off mixed in with a truckload of congestion. 

As previously stated,  I'm only here because of the Demons.   For me the sport has become about the  rivalries/tribalism and winning - not about the aesthetics. 

I don't hate football,  I just don't love it anymore.  I see modern footy as a hybrid version of rugby/soccer and those sports don't need a knock-off version.  

No other sport has been changed the way footy has.  But here's the deal - supporters just want to win.  Most couldn't care less how the win comes.  They just want to win. 

I view the sport and sport in general way differently.

Edited February 18, 20187 yr by Macca

On 17/02/2018 at 8:02 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

Stretch has the most possssions of our team in the 1st game mate....

That amazes me. But it is just glorified basketball.

Strech won't get a game this year.

 

1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

That amazes me. But it is just glorified basketball.

Strech won't get a game this year.

 

Well that's incorrect because he WILL get a game this year.

On 2/17/2018 at 5:06 PM, daisycutter said:

you do all realise that no team has won an aflx grand final and an afl grand final in the same year - ever

DC, no team had ever won the AFLX Grand Final and not gone on to win the next 3  AFL  Grand Finals - ever

On 17/02/2018 at 3:02 PM, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

While I don’t rate Bugg, a bit harsh hanging him out to dry from an AFLX sideshow. From all reports he has trained his arse off to win back the respect of the playing group, lets give him the chance and hopefully if the coaches deem him worthy, he may prove us wrong.

If Bugg wants to become a regular he must markedly improve his disposal......

On 17/02/2018 at 6:48 PM, DubDee said:

Man the commercialisation is horrible. 

Kicking a zooper?? Wtf. 

I know it's only aflx but how long until it's hogan with 2 Zoopers and 4 Pepsis. 

The afl selling out

Is a zooper actually a thing / a product?   I had thought that it was just some inane attempt at labelling something not so super. ie a goal from 40 metres, soon like something super.

22 minutes ago, monoccular said:

If Bugg wants to become a regular he must markedly improve his disposal......

Is a zooper actually a thing / a product?   I had thought that it was just some inane attempt at labelling something not so super. ie a goal from 40 metres, soon like something super.

Yeah Zooper Dooper is a kind of icy-pole.

Ridiculous that they sponsor the super-goal and so it has to be called a "zooper goal". I feel like it undermined the fact that we were watching a SPORT, not a paid-for product placement.

Or maybe that's exactly what it was.

TBH I felt the entire AFLX experience was over-commercialised. Zooper goals, circus acts, smoke machines, LED goal posts.

I think if you took away the superfluous gawdy crap and just played the game (seriously though, without most players going soft to avoid injury) it was actually OK. I actually enjoyed the game itself, when I could watch it and when the players were putting in the effort.

I would have preferred some actual analysis of the tactics than the crap they had on. It was a new game and I think it would have been nice to see some experts break down some of it in real time. I realise that without a pause between score and kick-in, it's difficult, but it could have been included in the half time break.

I also enjoyed watching sport without gambling ads and odds before every kick off. But then every 5 minutes they would do a split screen with the boundary ride. I could barely see the action whilst the interviews were going on. Astounding decision. If they MUST televise the interview during play, do a picture-in-picture thing with the field of play in the entire screen and the interview in the bottom right or left something, not obscuring the actual play.

God help the Player who said  "he thought it was ****house"

1 hour ago, red and blue forever said:

This seems like the perfect time to announce that Demonland has been acquired by Zooper Corp and will be rebranded Zooperland.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

This seems like the perfect time to announce that Demonland has been acquired by Zooper Corp and will name be rebranded Zooperland.

I for one, welcome our new overlords...

4 minutes ago, low flying Robbo said:

I for one, welcome our new overlords...

You could be useful in rounding up other Demon fans to toil in our sugar mines.