On 02/06/2019 at 09:58, Nelo said:

With his height you need to have weapons, either elite skills, pace or great hands. I don’t see any of those with Spargo which puts his future role in jeopardy.  

Yep that covers it in two sentences.

  On 02/06/2019 at 08:51, Nasher said:

He played 100 times better than he did the week before. I thought his game was a positive. 

Anyway the guy is 19, barely out of nappies. He’s such a long way off being the finished product that declarations of being a wasted selection or having no AFL traits are nothing short of outrageous. Give him a bloody break.

It's ridiculous. One posted in here said he "gave up the first goal" like as if we judge careers on a single turnover. 

If anything what I like about the kid is he plays above his weight and experience. You'd think he had 100 games under his belt.

 

Poor draft selection. If you’re going to go for a small late in the second round, at least pick a kid with an eye for goal and a few tricks. Maybe an indigenous boy. Spargo has few special attributes.

  On 02/06/2019 at 09:58, Nelo said:

With his height you need to have weapons, either elite skills, pace or great hands. I don’t see any of those with Spargo which puts his future role in jeopardy.  

Very shallow kicking range also.  Anything outside 40 he probably doesn't make the distance.

Early days but certainly not ready for AFL at this point.  Needs another season or so at VFL level before another look at senior level.

The biggest question mark is not Spargo himself (youth/inexperience/needs time to develop his skills & tank at Casey)  but why the hell Goody keeps selecting him in front of Pruess in the first place.

Astonishingly poor judgement on a similar scale to the "keep playing Fritsch at HB until he learns the role regardless of how many goals he bleeds" decision when Fritsch clearly doesnt have the two way running or defensive nouse to hold down that role (yet).

  On 02/06/2019 at 23:26, Rusty Nails said:

The biggest question mark is not Spargo himself (youth/inexperience/needs time to develop his skills & tank at Casey)  but why the hell Goody keeps selecting him in front of Pruess in the first place.

He did the same with Weide.   Just slowly blooding him,  and showing him the AFL game,  and it shows Spargo,  what he needs to get stronger at.

  On 03/06/2019 at 06:33, DV8 said:

He did the same with Weide.   Just slowly blooding him,  and showing him the AFL game,  and it shows Spargo,  what he needs to get stronger at.

A brief look (one to three matches in a block maybe once or twice in a season) when the team is in a strong ladder position with decent percentage playing a few lessor lights (not that there's many of those this year for us!) is fine DV.

To bring them back for more after being dropped for only a week (or a few) in the McGoos, showing absolutely no improvement to justify a recall, is nigh on insanity DV and reeks of amature hour.

  On 03/06/2019 at 07:11, Rusty Nails said:

A brief look (one to three matches in a block maybe once or twice in a season) when the team is in a strong ladder position with decent percentage playing a few lessor lights (not that there's many of those this year for us!) is fine DV.

To bring them back for more after being dropped for only a week (or a few) in the McGoos, showing absolutely no improvement to justify a recall, is nigh on insanity DV and reeks of amature hour.

I reeks of us still building the list imo,  'RN'.   Its not amateur...   its intent.   Deeliberate.  I'm sure they see Spargo as part of our future,  as we all saw last season.

 

Our list is not ready to be playing finals with regard to taking some silverware...  without the necessary injection of runners onto the list.

We don't have the list,  Yet...  to be a power club for a generation.   Let alone take a cup home. 

 

But we are closer than the mid 90's,  imv.

  On 03/06/2019 at 07:34, DV8 said:

It reeks of us still building the list imo,  'RN'.   Its not amateur...   its intent.   Deeliberate.  I'm sure they see Spargo as part of our future,  as we all saw last season.

 

Our list is not ready to be playing finals with regard to taking some silverware...  without the necessary injection of runners onto the list.

We don't have the list,  Yet...  to be a power club for a generation.   Let alone take a cup home. 

 

But we are closer than the mid 90's,  imv.

100% sold on that part DV.  As well as the list building towards a premiership one.  Still plenty of gaps, especially running / speed and finish ones on the outside and in front of the sticks.

We have some solid foundations and a frame in place but need to get to lock up and a decent facade within a few seasons if we are to take it all the way under the current Coach & FD (personel).

If not the recently constructed brand new house (at least nearing lock up) will quickly become just another well worn knock down ready for demolition and another rebuild (a la the Blues).

Edited June 3, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

  On 03/06/2019 at 08:07, Rusty Nails said:

We have some solid foundations and a frame in place but need to get to lock up and

Yep, absolutely Rusty.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The first part (of rebuilding the Demons),  is to get the  'hard-at-it' types,  into the club, and onto the field... and  'in-grain'  that Ethos,  into our DNA/culture as a club... and that is an ongoing thing.

Following on from there,  is the next layer...  to add those missing pieces,  that are Too-Often,  the softer types of AFL young players.

When these kids come into a club with Strong combative/competitive  head-over-the-footy  requirements,  the rest falls into place more readily.   Start them off,  the way we should have always done.

They do not get a game until they are doing these { non-negotiable's },  as an instinct,  prior to putting on the RednBlue jumper.

 So,  then we have our in-unders and the outside types all maintaining that standard,  across the club.  

 

: see why  'jeffy'  has been struggling for games in the past 2 years.   He has played too much as a front runner,  and not responsible anywhere near enough.

Allowing uncontested marks to be taken in the goal-square,  when he is our only player in there.  That is not good enough when he lets that happen.  He has to jump and get body on body to at least make them earn the mark.    Not stand down, hoping for a miracle,  for the ball to end up in his hands.

  On 03/06/2019 at 08:42, DV8 said:

Yep, absolutely Rusty.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The first part (of rebuilding the Demons),  is to get the  'hard-at-it' types,  into the club, and onto the field... and  'in-grain'  that Ethos,  into our DNA/culture as a club... and that is an ongoing thing.

Following on from there,  is the next layer...  to add those missing pieces,  that are Too-Often,  the softer types of AFL young players.

When these kids come into a club with Strong combative/competitive  head-over-the-footy  requirements,  the rest falls into place more readily.   Start them off,  the way we should have always done.

They do not get a game until they are doing these { non-negotiable's },  as an instinct,  prior to putting on the RednBlue jumper.

 So,  then we have our in-unders and the outside types all maintaining that standard,  across the club.  

 

: see why  'jeffy'  has been struggling for games in the past 2 years.   He has played too much as a front runner,  and not responsible anywhere near enough.

Allowing uncontested marks to be taken in the goal-square,  when he is our only player in there.  That is not good enough when he lets that happen.  He has to jump and get body on body to at least make them earn the mark.    Not stand down, hoping for a miracle,  for the ball to end up in his hands.

Very nicely put DV.  Sold!

Spargo also seems to not understand the concept of a small forwards role of crumbing packs. Once it hits the deck that's where he simply has to be.

A very limited footballer, compounded by the fact he only has one suitable position given his lack of height or speed.

  On 02/06/2019 at 07:22, Elegt said:

Do you see AFL traits though? Far too small and slow to make it. Look he might have been carried last year by a good team but I see no potential for him 

Yep spot on!

  On 28/08/2018 at 07:14, Petraccattack said:

You cant teach this sort of timing, decision making, skill and instinct.  Every club will regret passing on this kid... should have been a top 10 pick imho.

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure on the 'AFL traits' argument.  He's already played more career games than the majority of AFL draftees.

His vision and poise in traffic is first rate when his confidence is up.  At the moment, his confidence is rock bottom.

He's still a kid.

  On 02/06/2019 at 09:06, Elegt said:

Name these so called traits. Good clubs get rid of kids who will never make it, Nathan Freeman and Billy hartung spring to mind as examples 

Three fine examples just above.

  On 01/06/2019 at 13:29, picket fence said:

Cost the first Adelaide goal with an elementary turnover!

Never mind his efforts in the above clips, let’s just single out one error and crucify the kid.

  On 04/06/2019 at 00:06, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not sure on the 'AFL traits' argument.  He's already played more career games than the majority of AFL draftees.

His vision and poise in traffic is first rate when his confidence is up.  At the moment, his confidence is rock bottom.

He's still a kid.

Wow 2 short handballs and a chip kick. Such a gun. Would you like me to drum up videos of all the times he didn't make the distance kicking it from 30m out

  On 04/06/2019 at 03:19, Elegt said:

Wow 2 short handballs and a chip kick. Such a gun. Would you like me to drum up videos of all the times he didn't make the distance kicking it from 30m out

Yes.

 

 

Funny how Inelegant always bobs up at the same time as Basher, liking each other's posts etc.

Makes you wonder if it's the same troll with multiple aliases.  Back under the bridge you go ... IGNORE LIST!

  On 04/06/2019 at 03:19, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Yes.

 

 

Actually keen to see these video's now...

  On 04/06/2019 at 03:19, Elegt said:

Wow 2 short handballs and a chip kick. Such a gun. Would you like me to drum up videos of all the times he didn't make the distance kicking it from 30m out

It would appear you don't know how far 30 metres is.

I thought Spargo had one of his better games as a demon last Saturday. Despite his mistakes, he tackled, ran hard and made options and connections. The reality is that Lockhart offers more and has been better this year and should have Spargo's place. I have no problem giving Spargo time at Casey, I think gifting him games he hadn't earnt last year has not helped his development. We need players competing for a position to be a competitive team. 

I'm neither a fan nor a basher but he did kick 2 goals and played well against Hawthorn in a high stakes semi final as an 18 year old. That has to count for something.

  On 04/06/2019 at 00:19, hardtack said:

Three fine examples just above.

and several assists and hitting targets on the chest in traffic in a down season this year.

As I said in another thread he'll be fine especially when he builds a tank 

Ever heard of second season blues?

Probably compounded by the poor form and heavy injury toll the club has had this season.

  On 04/06/2019 at 00:06, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not sure on the 'AFL traits' argument.  He's already played more career games than the majority of AFL draftees.

His vision and poise in traffic is first rate when his confidence is up.  At the moment, his confidence is rock bottom.

He's still a kid.

I think he has great skill and a really good football brain. When he has the ball you generally know something is going to happen. However his size doesn't help him with regard to putting pressure on the opposition and means that he is often out-positioned. 

I look at Lockhart, who is only 4cm taller, and I just think he has a lot more presence. If Spargo can learn how to work to the right positions (maybe it means he needs to bulk up a little), and Lockhart has his first preseason, they might make a pretty deadly duo