Need to do a Collingwood with Howe to him. Bring him in as a forward, watch him battle to get a kick, find an opening down back, move him and watch him flourish as the rebounding 3rd tall we need. 

4 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Are Demonlanders going to post up every friggin player who is coming off contract in the next 2 years ?

BORING

Hopefully not Cranky, but as an ex-pick 2 who’s not only available but would fill a gaping positional need for us, it’s probably worthy of a discussion?

I would absolutely make a play for him if he indicates any kind of interest in coming to Victoria. 

20 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Are Demonlanders going to post up every friggin player who is coming off contract in the next 2 years ?

BORING

New here, Franky?

In a heartbeat! Can turn a game un a quarter. Probably not tough enough for Hardwick.  At 23 his best is ahead of him. Not sure how he gets to us though?

Jack Precocious would be a good get.

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Need to do a Collingwood with Howe to him. Bring him in as a forward, watch him battle to get a kick, find an opening down back, move him and watch him flourish as the rebounding 3rd tall we need. 

Or just sell him on a defensive position within our system.

A key tall which we need, watch him ask for a trade to cats 

The 2023 version of Lukosius would be a potent structural addition.

Takes marks - including inside 50 and contested when the coach permits it.

Can kick goals (39.22 in 2023) and set up goals (15 goal assists for 2023 and 6 score involvements per game)

Gains metres and can do it in ways that disorient opposition defence thanks to his ability to roost it with accuracy over 40-50m as well as launch credible shots from outside 50.

After having an excellent season in 2023 he appears to be pushed out of his best role due to pecking order and only being adequate so far this year.

Getting him now and using his attributes as a mobile, connecting CHF would be like trading for Bailey Fritsch at the end of 2020, right before he was allowed to settle as a forward.

Jack Watts 2.0

10/10 would take him, already shown plenty in his 100 games and will only improve from here. We should have enough cap space to have a go at some good players next season

If we want another flanker with dubious defensive skills, then maybe. If we're looking for a key forward he isn't one. Hates physical contact.

Soft. Is not a KPP.

19 hours ago, Dee Boys said:

Hopefully not Cranky, but as an ex-pick 2 who’s not only available but would fill a gaping positional need for us, it’s probably worthy of a discussion?

What need is that? a forward who has averages less  then 1 goal a game.

Ballard can come if he wants.

I’ve always been of the belief that Jack Watts would be the icing on the cake for our current side - regardless of what you think of him as a player.

Lukosius is of the same ilk and I would be over the moon if he came to us. We are still light on for elite kicking skills, particularly from a tall.

He kicked more goals than any of our guys last year, is a couple of centimetres taller than JVR and is 23. 

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18 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Jack Watts 2.0

Came here to write exactly that.

Based on my memories and some of the early comments in this thread, Lukosius has gotten nowhere near living up to the early hype that was placed on him.

Very similar to Jack Watts as others have alluded to. Was JW really that bad though? Played nearly 200 games and there were plenty of good ones among them.

My gut feeling is that Goody wouldn't rate him but if he came with a 2nd round pick going back the other way, I'd be all for it. Not every single player out there has to be insane like Jack Viney, as long as they bring other skills to the table. IMO Lukosius is the best field kick in the league.

 

5 hours ago, Demon trucker said:

What need is that? a forward who has averages less  then 1 goal a game.

Perhaps that might be because he’s played most of his career down back 🤨

As stated earlier, he was drafted as a forward and is looking to settle as a forward.

We are so blessed with quality key forwards, why would we want him?

That was sarcasm.

On 16/04/2024 at 14:31, Dr. Mubutu said:

New here, Franky?

In fairness, his handle is 'Cranky Franky'

Gives me visions of 'Blackboard' from Mr Squiggle...yes, child of the 80s

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

We are so blessed with quality key forwards, why would we want him?

That was sarcasm.

He isn't a key forward

21 minutes ago, adonski said:

He isn't a key forward

He would make our 23.

BBB probably gone end of season and Tom has gone back.

Only Jeffo to come, hopefully.

19 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Soft. Is not a KPP.

No AFL footballer is soft

Lukosius isn't a pack crunching key forward like JVR. But he's a good mark, one on one included, an exceptional kick and decision maker and would definitely be a big part of our forward set up over the next 8-10 years. He's also versatile, plays back if needed. I can even see him getting time in the middle, such is his high footy IQ

The whole 'Jack Watts 2.0' label shows that some fans like cheap shot labels because it's easier than thinking in any depth

It's a big YES from me, assuming the price isn't too high.

In JT we trust 

31 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

No AFL footballer is soft

Lukosius isn't a pack crunching key forward like JVR. But he's a good mark, one on one included, an exceptional kick and decision maker and would definitely be a big part of our forward set up over the next 8-10 years. He's also versatile, plays back if needed. I can even see him getting time in the middle, such is his high footy IQ

The whole 'Jack Watts 2.0' label shows that some fans like cheap shot labels because it's easier than thinking in any depth

It's a big YES from me, assuming the price isn't too high.

In JT we trust 

Because most people think you need a man mountain of a key fwd, the game is changing and a more mobile tall is the future