Jump to content

Featured Replies

Need to do a Collingwood with Howe to him. Bring him in as a forward, watch him battle to get a kick, find an opening down back, move him and watch him flourish as the rebounding 3rd tall we need. 

 
4 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Are Demonlanders going to post up every friggin player who is coming off contract in the next 2 years ?

BORING

Hopefully not Cranky, but as an ex-pick 2 who’s not only available but would fill a gaping positional need for us, it’s probably worthy of a discussion?

I would absolutely make a play for him if he indicates any kind of interest in coming to Victoria. 

 
20 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Are Demonlanders going to post up every friggin player who is coming off contract in the next 2 years ?

BORING

New here, Franky?

In a heartbeat! Can turn a game un a quarter. Probably not tough enough for Hardwick.  At 23 his best is ahead of him. Not sure how he gets to us though?


1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Need to do a Collingwood with Howe to him. Bring him in as a forward, watch him battle to get a kick, find an opening down back, move him and watch him flourish as the rebounding 3rd tall we need. 

Or just sell him on a defensive position within our system.

 

The 2023 version of Lukosius would be a potent structural addition.

Takes marks - including inside 50 and contested when the coach permits it.

Can kick goals (39.22 in 2023) and set up goals (15 goal assists for 2023 and 6 score involvements per game)

Gains metres and can do it in ways that disorient opposition defence thanks to his ability to roost it with accuracy over 40-50m as well as launch credible shots from outside 50.

After having an excellent season in 2023 he appears to be pushed out of his best role due to pecking order and only being adequate so far this year.

Getting him now and using his attributes as a mobile, connecting CHF would be like trading for Bailey Fritsch at the end of 2020, right before he was allowed to settle as a forward.


10/10 would take him, already shown plenty in his 100 games and will only improve from here. We should have enough cap space to have a go at some good players next season

If we want another flanker with dubious defensive skills, then maybe. If we're looking for a key forward he isn't one. Hates physical contact.

19 hours ago, Dee Boys said:

Hopefully not Cranky, but as an ex-pick 2 who’s not only available but would fill a gaping positional need for us, it’s probably worthy of a discussion?

What need is that? a forward who has averages less  then 1 goal a game.


I’ve always been of the belief that Jack Watts would be the icing on the cake for our current side - regardless of what you think of him as a player.

Lukosius is of the same ilk and I would be over the moon if he came to us. We are still light on for elite kicking skills, particularly from a tall.

He kicked more goals than any of our guys last year, is a couple of centimetres taller than JVR and is 23. 

Edited by BW511

Based on my memories and some of the early comments in this thread, Lukosius has gotten nowhere near living up to the early hype that was placed on him.

Very similar to Jack Watts as others have alluded to. Was JW really that bad though? Played nearly 200 games and there were plenty of good ones among them.

My gut feeling is that Goody wouldn't rate him but if he came with a 2nd round pick going back the other way, I'd be all for it. Not every single player out there has to be insane like Jack Viney, as long as they bring other skills to the table. IMO Lukosius is the best field kick in the league.

 

5 hours ago, Demon trucker said:

What need is that? a forward who has averages less  then 1 goal a game.

Perhaps that might be because he’s played most of his career down back 🤨

As stated earlier, he was drafted as a forward and is looking to settle as a forward.

We are so blessed with quality key forwards, why would we want him?

That was sarcasm.


On 16/04/2024 at 14:31, Dr. Mubutu said:

New here, Franky?

In fairness, his handle is 'Cranky Franky'

Gives me visions of 'Blackboard' from Mr Squiggle...yes, child of the 80s

Edited by Dee*ceiving

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

We are so blessed with quality key forwards, why would we want him?

That was sarcasm.

He isn't a key forward

21 minutes ago, adonski said:

He isn't a key forward

He would make our 23.

BBB probably gone end of season and Tom has gone back.

Only Jeffo to come, hopefully.

 
19 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Soft. Is not a KPP.

No AFL footballer is soft

Lukosius isn't a pack crunching key forward like JVR. But he's a good mark, one on one included, an exceptional kick and decision maker and would definitely be a big part of our forward set up over the next 8-10 years. He's also versatile, plays back if needed. I can even see him getting time in the middle, such is his high footy IQ

The whole 'Jack Watts 2.0' label shows that some fans like cheap shot labels because it's easier than thinking in any depth

It's a big YES from me, assuming the price isn't too high.

In JT we trust 

31 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

No AFL footballer is soft

Lukosius isn't a pack crunching key forward like JVR. But he's a good mark, one on one included, an exceptional kick and decision maker and would definitely be a big part of our forward set up over the next 8-10 years. He's also versatile, plays back if needed. I can even see him getting time in the middle, such is his high footy IQ

The whole 'Jack Watts 2.0' label shows that some fans like cheap shot labels because it's easier than thinking in any depth

It's a big YES from me, assuming the price isn't too high.

In JT we trust 

Because most people think you need a man mountain of a key fwd, the game is changing and a more mobile tall is the future 


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • NON-MFC: Round 13

    Follow all the action from every Round 13 clash excluding the Dees as the 2025 AFL Premiership Season rolls on. With Melbourne playing in the final match of the round on King's Birthday, all eyes turn to the rest of the competition. Who are you tipping to win? And more importantly, which results best serve the Demons’ finals aspirations? Join the discussion and keep track of the matches that could shape the ladder and impact our run to September.

      • Thanks
    • 86 replies
  • PREVIEW: Collingwood

    Having convincingly defeated last year’s premier and decisively outplayed the runner-up with 8.2 in the final quarter, nothing epitomized the Melbourne Football Club’s performance more than its 1.12 final half, particularly the eight consecutive behinds in the last term, against a struggling St Kilda team in the midst of a dismal losing streak. Just when stability and consistency were anticipated within the Demon ranks, they delivered a quintessential performance marked by instability and ill-conceived decisions, with the most striking aspect being their inaccuracy in kicking for goal, which suggested a lack of preparation (instead of sleeping in their hotel in Alice, were they having a night on the turps) rather than a well-rested team. Let’s face it - this kicking disease that makes them look like raw amateurs is becoming a millstone around the team’s neck.

      • Thanks
    • 1 reply
  • CASEY: Sydney

    The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 1 reply
  • REPORT: St. Kilda

    Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
    This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

      • Thanks
    • 4 replies
  • PREGAME: Collingwood

    After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thanks
    • 316 replies
  • PODCAST: St. Kilda

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Thanks
    • 47 replies