Farewell Jack Watts

[McQueen 17,864]

7 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

Just when I thought I was the only schmuck streaming Trade Radio.

They're about to stream a function where Watts and Paul Connors are both speaking at. Watch this space.

Just tuned in for the first time too.

Duhwayne Russell..... Noooooooooo......

[Ouch! 2,262]

8 minutes ago, Luther said:

If he does, it needs to be a galvanising moment for him and he'd need to come out firing in 2018. Otherwise he'd certainly be gone at the end of next season you would think.

To be honest if Watts came out and said "I'm staying and will prove myself to the MFC and force the coaches hands in terms of earning a place in the best 18.'  That would have the be the best outcome for all parties. It shows Watts is going to shoulder responsibility for whats happened in his career to date, and prove doubters wrong.

Not sure that will be the outcome. However if he is only worth a second round pick (thats 30+ if we are talking Sydney or Port) then he's more value to the club as a player surely!

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

Question: Is it only possible to listen to trade radio via the AFL website? 

Edited October 3, 2017 by Ethan Tremblay

[Deespicable 2,726]

17 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

3 years ago today we lost R. Flower

 

Robbie will never be lost while people my vintage are still around.

Greatest Demon in my time with Gaz Lyon at No.2. 

[McQueen 17,864]

From his presser:

Wants to stay, would be a shock to miss out on the good times ahead, thinks he's playing good footy up until the hammy and then struggled..

Surprised by Goodwin's words and the opinions of the coaches.

 

[chook fowler 19,458]

2 minutes ago, McQueen said:

From his presser:

Wants to stay, would be a shock to miss out on the good times ahead, thinks he's playing good footy up until the hammy and then struggled..

Surprised by Goodwin's words and the opinions of the coaches.

 

Seems to indicate he still doesn't get it.

[Little Richard 6,262]

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

From his presser:

Wants to stay, would be a shock to miss out on the good times ahead, thinks he's playing good footy up until the hammy and then struggled..

Surprised by Goodwin's words and the opinions of the coaches.

 

Not really what I wanted to hear from him. Mindset hasn't changed.

Why say he 'doesn't want to miss out on the good times ahead', when he could say 'I want to help drive the footy club to its next flag?'

The hunger isn't there.

[Lucifers Hero 39,737]

27 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Question: Is it only possible to listen to trade radio via the AFL website? 

Transcript here:https://twitter.com/traderadio

Jack very strong on wanting to stay.

Clearly different view than the one Goodwin is trying to portray - that they have a great relationship, he wants to look at options, Jack is welcome to stay etc etc.  He and the club are trying to paint a picture that it was Jack's decision to go so that they can appease supporters.

Jack is bucking that and letting supporters know he desperately wants to stay.

He wouldn't take Goodwin on like that if there was a chance of him staying. 

Edited October 3, 2017 by Lucifer's Hero

[McQueen 17,864]

1 minute ago, Luther said:

Not really what I wanted to hear from him. Mindset hasn't changed.

Why say he 'doesn't want to miss out on the good times ahead', when he could say 'I want to help drive the footy club to its next flag?'

The hunger isn't there.

He did indicate that he wants to help the team achieve it.

[praha 11,240]

1 minute ago, Luther said:

Not really what I wanted to hear from him. Mindset hasn't changed.

Why say he 'doesn't want to miss out on the good times ahead', when he could say 'I want to help drive the footy club to its next flag?'

The hunger isn't there.

Further, dismisses words of the coaching team.

[DeeZee 7,378]

Behind closed doors im sure in no certain terms Goodywould have let him know if he stays he is on his last chance and must prepare and train his arse off.

Will be a good thing.

[Ouch! 2,262]

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

From his presser:

Wants to stay, would be a shock to miss out on the good times ahead, thinks he's playing good footy up until the hammy and then struggled..

Surprised by Goodwin's words and the opinions of the coaches.

I think that's a reasonable assessment of his season isnt it?, although I think his pre-season might have indicated a lack of commitment to the team's goals

I think another thing that is a little odd is when he pinged his hamstring, I remember the club and Misson indicated that it was very minor and he would be back pretty quickly....(1-2 weeks max!)  that explanation dragged out over his rehab time (4 or 5 weeks?) which either indicated the conditioning staff misjudged or misrepresented the injury and how significant it actually was, or Watts rehab of that injury wasn't as good as it should have been. 

Is my recount of this different to others here on DL?

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

Up to you Jack. 

I still believe Goodwin is dangling 1 last carrot ? 

[DubDee 25,839]

I'm glad he wants to stay and his manager has said MFC have handled this well so far.

the fact that he is surprised by this after being dropped twice this year - almost missing round 1 and the last couple of rounds says a lot.

you dont know what you have until its gone - or almost gone. My heart wants him to stay and do well but my head says he will continue to be inconsistent. my liver wants me to stop drinking but my spleen is up for up...

confusing times indeed!

[Go the Biff 3,414]

7 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

I think that's a reasonable assessment of his season isnt it?, although I think his pre-season might have indicated a lack of commitment to the team's goals

I think another thing that is a little odd is when he pinged his hamstring, I remember the club and Misson indicated that it was very minor and he would be back pretty quickly....(1-2 weeks max!)  that explanation dragged out over his rehab time (4 or 5 weeks?) which either indicated the conditioning staff misjudged or misrepresented the injury and how significant it actually was, or Watts rehab of that injury wasn't as good as it should have been. 

Is my recount of this different to others here on DL?

I got the impression that the initial injury was at the lower end of the scale but he did more damage at training

[whatwhat say what 22,741]

based on his comments, nothing's changed with his mindset

disappointing

[Lucifers Hero 39,737]

11 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

I think that's a reasonable assessment of his season isnt it?, although I think his pre-season might have indicated a lack of commitment to the team's goals

I think another thing that is a little odd is when he pinged his hamstring, I remember the club and Misson indicated that it was very minor and he would be back pretty quickly....(1-2 weeks max!)  that explanation dragged out over his rehab time (4 or 5 weeks?) which either indicated the conditioning staff misjudged or misrepresented the injury and how significant it actually was, or Watts rehab of that injury wasn't as good as it should have been. 

Is my recount of this different to others here on DL?

The rules of Misson's injury report:  1 to 2 is really code for 4.2.6.

 

They really don't know how long soft tissue injuries take.  In Jack's case he had had back spasms, a problem ankle and hamstring tightness in the weeks prior but kept playing. 

So these probably complicated his recovery. 

[beelzebub 23,347]

Not sounding like this will end nicely

[JV7 2,351]

26 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Question: Is it only possible to listen to trade radio via the AFL website? 

Download the official AFL app.. If your a telstra customer you can stream for free

[KLV 1,765]

Didn't Goodwin say, that if watts ends up staying, "he knows clearly what is expected of him"?

it would seem that an ultimatum has been given and Jacknshould be crystal clear about where he stands. I guess if he stays and doesn't live up to the expected standard, he will be in the seconds and let go this time next year.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,503]

Good on him.

Even after the way the club has operated over his time with us, it sounds like his attitude is the same as the thousands of long-suffering fans - he loves the club.  Yes, there are many points that he can improve on as a player, but it's great to hear someone on our list so steadfast in their desire to stay and be part of what we're building.

Who knows if he stays or goes, but contrast this attitude with the news coming out of the club in trade weeks 2011-15... it is a very, very different place.

[george_on_the_outer 7,590]

Still doesn't get it.....everyone else and anything else to blame....

Put in and the conversation wouldn't be taking place

[sue 9,102]

28 minutes ago, Luther said:

Not really what I wanted to hear from him. Mindset hasn't changed.

Why say he 'doesn't want to miss out on the good times ahead', when he could say 'I want to help drive the footy club to its next flag?'

The hunger isn't there.

 What would he mean by good times other than getting to a flag?  Give him a bit of slack for goodness sake.

[Deespicable 2,726]

David Schwarz won our best and fairest the year after he was touted as being part of a Wayne Campbell trade.

Having said that, I still think once a coach decides to farm out a player, there's very little chance of them switching that position.

[faultydet 7,594]

9 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Still doesn't get it.....everyone else and anything else to blame....

Put in and the conversation wouldn't be taking place

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