Farewell Jack Watts

[bing181 9,117]

10 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Watts having success at another club will not affect the merits of the club's decision.   

Worth repeating.

[cogo54 3]

He is better in the team. He is a star at his best and the rocket placed under his bum will see him perform more consistent football. I want to see him on the journey to success alongside his demons brothers.

[Biffen 12,934]

Dr Biffen thinks the psychological predisposition of Pro-Dee to grandiosity is perhaps more reflective of healthy ego .

Dr Biffen is never wrong.

However,Pro Dee is often wrong.

 

[P-man 13,366]

Wrong decision from a football perspective for mine. We still have an abundance of blokes who can't hit the side of a barn on a still day, and as the Hun article points out his pressure rating showed the penny had dropped in terms of work rate.

I understand all the conjecture and certainly understand the frustration with Watts, but moving him on just when he is hitting his peak as a player after nine years of patience is a bitter pill.

Time will tell I guess. Goodwin better bloody coach this mob to a September berth next season because I'm really growing [censored] tired of this [censored]. 

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Edited October 7, 2017 by P-man

[Sir Why You Little 36,742]

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

I'm implying that Port and Collingwood fans are mostly feral criminals and that Chris Scott is a bit scary.

Jack’s a big boy. At some stage he has to stand up 

i find it incredible that a player in the system for 9 years is still talked about as though he is a first year player

[rpfc 28,079]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

you think he'll be out the door by then  @rpfc ?

might all get a tad awkward.....deservedly so for mine

 

He won't be 'gone' yet I wouldn't think but for all intents and purposes... He will be essentially saying goodbye from what Connors has said.

[DemonOX 8,733]

2 hours ago, faultydet said:

I blame Jack Watts

U won’t be able to do that for too much longer faulty!!

[rpfc 28,079]

11 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

 

Watts having success at another club will not affect the merits of the club's decision.   

 

54 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Worth repeating.

Worth explaining.

What would affect the merits of this decision?

[dieter 3,325]

13 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Dr Biffen thinks the psychological predisposition of Pro-Dee to grandiosity is perhaps more reflective of healthy ego .

Dr Biffen is never wrong.

However,Pro Dee is often wrong.

 

That's where you've been - Disneyland, got stuck in Fantasyland.

[Biffen 12,934]

My prediction is that Watts will stay a Melbourne player.

I base this on;

 A. His last statement regarding his desire to remain at the club and see success.

B.His 2 year contract which he and his manager can enforce .

C.The unlikely ability that a club will offer up a suitable replacement commensurate with his worth.

D.Gut Feel.

 

[rpfc 28,079]

Just now, Biffen said:

My prediction is that Watts will stay a Melbourne player.

I base this on;

 A. His last statement regarding his desire to remain at the club and see success.

B.His 2 year contract which he and his manager can enforce .

C.The unlikely ability that a club will offer up a suitable replacement commensurate with his worth.

D.Gut Feel.

 

I can't comment on D. But the club controls C and they are keen to move him, they will accept a deal perhaps below what his 'market' is.

[beelzebub 23,250]

1 minute ago, Biffen said:

My prediction is that Watts will stay a Melbourne player.

I base this on;

 A. His last statement regarding his desire to remain at the club and see success.

B.His 2 year contract which he and his manager can enforce .

C.The unlikely ability that a club will offer up a suitable replacement commensurate with his worth.

D.Gut Feel.

 

A good quaddie...did you back Winx

[Biffen 12,934]

Just now, dieter said:

That's where you've been - Disneyland, got stuck in Fantasyland.

Poor old Dieter.

Still bowling down the leg side and wasting the new ball.

[dieter 3,325]

2 minutes ago, Biffen said:

My prediction is that Watts will stay a Melbourne player.

I base this on;

 A. His last statement regarding his desire to remain at the club and see success.

B.His 2 year contract which he and his manager can enforce .

C.The unlikely ability that a club will offer up a suitable replacement commensurate with his worth.

D.Gut Feel.

 

Pway tell you're right for a change. Will Goodwin play him though??????

[Biffen 12,934]

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

A good quaddie...did you back Winx

In the end i took the tri ten times 2-1-3 but Humidor had it's head pulled off and finished 3rd instead of second.

Curse the damn jockey.

A look at Winx's times shows me he cannot be beaten until injured.

Humidor looks fairly dour-

Edited October 7, 2017 by Biffen

[Biffen 12,934]

1 minute ago, dieter said:

Pway tell you're right for a change. Will Goodwin play him though??????

I'm hoping Goodwin reflects upon his own imperfections  and can see that using JW as a scapegoat for his own failures is self defeating.

[beelzebub 23,250]

Biff. I sense the club are pushing him out. Increasingly burning any bridge and bolting doors.

Whatever the original intent they've now got to justify its "words"

Rightly or wrongly Jack's now gunna get shafted...value is irrelevant. They'll invent a justification after the deed.

MFC... getting very Shakespearian, must be the Pop up Theatre !!

 

[faultydet 7,594]

Just now, Biffen said:

My prediction is that Watts will stay a Melbourne player.

I base this on;

 A. His last statement regarding his desire to remain at the club and see success.

B.His 2 year contract which he and his manager can enforce .

C.The unlikely ability that a club will offer up a suitable replacement commensurate with his worth.

D.Gut Feel.

 

I think he will go

 

1:His own captain criticised him publicly

2: his own coach criticised him publicly 

3: His own football manager criticised him publicly.

4: the writing has been on the wall all year, including being dropped twice.

5: I think we WILL be offered his actual value, although the pick will be the same as the one you think is not commensurate with his worth.

6: Gut feel

 

 

 

 

[Axis of Bob 11,319]

I understand that Watts is a popular player, but I have been genuinely surprised by the amount of feeling his trading is generating.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,890]

2 hours ago, waynewussell said:

Love Jack Watts... agree with all the positive comments made here. I'm keeping it simple.... Jack represents the most obvious means for MFC to improve its list. He has value... a hell of a lot more value than anyone else we would contemplate trading. We will benefit from Jack's impending departure!

After the Collingwood game I thought Watts and Tyson were the 2 who had value that we may put out there to see who bites. 

[rpfc 28,079]

1 minute ago, Axis of Bob said:

I understand that Watts is a popular player, but I have been genuinely surprised by the amount of feeling his trading is generating.

I read a social experiment that had those that paid to see a movie, rate it higher than those that didn't have to pay - the investment made the person wedded to the movie more and made it desirable to make it worth that investment.

In this case, I don't think it is the investment of the first pick in the draft, but the emotional investment of this bloke from 1) the thousands of starved and desperate Dees fans wanting so badly to believe that he will help deliver them back to finals and hopefully a flag, 2) that he could one day be that elusive 'star,' and 3) that he is such a ripping bloke...

[P-man 13,366]

7 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

I understand that Watts is a popular player, but I have been genuinely surprised by the amount of feeling his trading is generating.

I'm surprised you're surprised.

Edited October 7, 2017 by P-man

[beelzebub 23,250]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

After the Collingwood game I thought Watts and Tyson were the 2 who had value that we may put out there to see who bites. 

Ironic really..two of the players that ACTUALLY put in that day.....win the gift of ....going ??

[jumbo returns 6,707]

22 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

U won’t be able to do that for too much longer faulty!!

Let's line up the next scapegoats:

Will it be....

a) Oscar Mac

b) Bernie

c) Melksham

d) Tommy Mac

wait! e) Dom Tyson

or...will Col Garland get the blame for everything?

Edited October 7, 2017 by jumbo returns
Forgot Dom

[Dr. Gonzo 23,890]

6 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

I understand that Watts is a popular player, but I have been genuinely surprised by the amount of feeling his trading is generating.

I guess people are annoyed at the way it has been done and the fact it has seemingly come from left field which I can understand. Also with the comments Watts himself has made publicly can be seen to paint the club in a bad light. 

I can understand why some people are a bit nervous he has natural skills, something we lack; it seemed he was on the up  a after his last two seasons (back half of 2017 notwithstanding); it could set a bad precedent for players in the future if trying to sell loyalty to them; you're potentially getting a player manager offside who manages other players in our team namely Petracca.

I hope none of these things come to fruition but I can understand the angst. I'll back the club to make the right call but I have to say they'd want to be bloody sure of it for all the friction it's caused amongst supporters (those on social media anyway)